M.O.A.B
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

some website wrote:

Finally, the author tells of a friend who drives a Bradley armored vehicle and has a penchant for careening around the streets of Baghdad in the hope of causing as much destruction--and killing as many stray dogs--as possible.



I know another private who really only enjoyed driving Bradley Fighting Vehicles because it gave him the opportunity to run things over. He took out curbs, concrete barriers, corners of buildings, stands in the market, and his favorite target: dogs. Occasionally, the brave ones would chase the Bradleys, barking at them like they bark at trash trucks in America—providing him with the perfect opportunity to suddenly swerve and catch a leg or a tail in the vehicle’s tracks. He kept a tally of his kills in a little green notebook that sat on the dashboard of the driver’s hatch. One particular day, he killed three dogs. He slowed the Bradley down to lure the first kill in, and, as the diesel engine grew quieter, the dog walked close enough for him to jerk the machine hard to the right and snag its leg under the tracks. The leg caught, and he dragged the dog for a little while, until it disengaged and lay twitching in the road. A roar of laughter broke out over the radio. Another notch for the book. The second kill was a straight shot: A dog that was lying in the street and bathing in the sun didn’t have enough time to get up and run away from the speeding Bradley. Its front half was completely severed from its rear, which was twitching wildly, and its head was still raised and smiling at the sun as if nothing had happened at all.


One simple fact renders this tale highly implausible. Such erratic driving is likely to greatly increase a vehicle's exposure to roadside bombs, which insurgents frequently hide in the corpses of animals, or beside trash-strewn curbs.
having intimate knowledge of Bradley Operations in and around Baghdad during OIF II, I can tell you that this story is impossible.  The driver of a bradley gets a very small portion of the world to view.  you only see whats directly in front of you and to your left.  it would be impossible to go dog hunting with a bradley.
Real life must have a 3rd person view lol

Here's a good pic of a Bradley (yes it is a model but an accurate representation), notice the viewing ports for the driver, front and left.

https://img476.imageshack.us/img476/4138/bradleyyj8.jpg

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2007-07-25 15:16:49)

Comrade Ogilvy
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Army Private Discloses He Is New Republic's Baghdad Diarist

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 27, 2007; C07

The New Republic's anonymous "Baghdad Diarist" identified himself yesterday as Scott Thomas Beauchamp, an Army private in Iraq, and disputed as "maddening" accusations that he had invented his accounts of cruelty by American soldiers.

The magazine's editor, Franklin Foer, disclosed in an interview that Beauchamp is married to a New Republic staffer, and that is "part of the reason why we found him to be a credible writer." Foer also said Beauchamp "has put himself in significant jeopardy" and "lost his lifeline to the rest of the world" because military officials have taken away his laptop, cellphone and e-mail privileges.

As both the military and the magazine investigate Beauchamp's allegations, a personal blog surfaced in which Beauchamp said last year that each morning he feels "retarded for joining the army," "a little more liberal than the day before" and "a tool for global corporations."

In a statement posted on the New Republic's Web site, Beauchamp said his columns for the magazine, written under the name Scott Thomas, were "one soldier's view of events in Iraq" and "never intended as a reflection of the entire U.S. military."

"It's been maddening, to say the least," he added, "to see the plausibility of events that I witnessed questioned by people who have never served in Iraq. I was initially reluctant to take the time out of my already insane schedule fighting an actual war in order to play some role in an ideological battle that I never wanted to join. That being said, my character, my experiences, and those of my comrades in arms have been called into question, and I believe that it is important to stand by my writing under my real name."

Beauchamp did not provide any documentation for his three published columns. He is married to a reporter-researcher at the New Republic,


Elspeth Reeve.





http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 37_pf.html

Last edited by Comrade Ogilvy (2007-07-27 16:48:25)

Comrade Ogilvy
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Comrade Ogilvy wrote:

Army Private Discloses He Is New Republic's Baghdad Diarist

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 27, 2007; C07

The New Republic's anonymous "Baghdad Diarist" identified himself yesterday as Scott Thomas Beauchamp, an Army private in Iraq, and disputed as "maddening" accusations that he had invented his accounts of cruelty by American soldiers.

The magazine's editor, Franklin Foer, disclosed in an interview that Beauchamp is married to a New Republic staffer, and that is "part of the reason why we found him to be a credible writer." Foer also said Beauchamp "has put himself in significant jeopardy" and "lost his lifeline to the rest of the world" because military officials have taken away his laptop, cellphone and e-mail privileges.

As both the military and the magazine investigate Beauchamp's allegations, a personal blog surfaced in which Beauchamp said last year that each morning he feels "retarded for joining the army," "a little more liberal than the day before" and "a tool for global corporations."

In a statement posted on the New Republic's Web site, Beauchamp said his columns for the magazine, written under the name Scott Thomas, were "one soldier's view of events in Iraq" and "never intended as a reflection of the entire U.S. military."

"It's been maddening, to say the least," he added, "to see the plausibility of events that I witnessed questioned by people who have never served in Iraq. I was initially reluctant to take the time out of my already insane schedule fighting an actual war in order to play some role in an ideological battle that I never wanted to join. That being said, my character, my experiences, and those of my comrades in arms have been called into question, and I believe that it is important to stand by my writing under my real name."

Beauchamp did not provide any documentation for his three published columns. He is married to a reporter-researcher at the New Republic,


Elspeth Reeve.





http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 37_pf.html
Maj. Kirk Luedeke, a spokesman for the base, said by e-mail: "We are conducting a formal investigation into the allegations made by Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp in the New Republic, so given that situation, I am unable to comment on the matter until the investigation is complete."

In his blog, called Sir Real Scott Thomas, Beauchamp quoted Vice President Cheney as explaining in 1991, when he was defense secretary, why the United States ended the Persian Gulf War without taking Baghdad. Beauchamp added that "we laugh harder at CSPAN than comedy central. Silly republicans."

Beauchamp, who was based in Germany when the blog entries were posted in 2006, described his career this way: "I shoot, move, communicate, and kill . . . the deaths that I inflict secure the riches of the empire."


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DeathBecomesYu
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Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:


easily distinguishable. The people of America, have all the assistance they need to build a fantasitc life here. We have the freedom to choose our destinies. Enough said.

The people of Iraq, Not the Islamic extremists, deserve the same choice.
A fantastic life, eh?...  Is that why 80 million Americans don't even have health insurance?

Life here is obviously better than in Iraq, but the focus on the Middle East over the last several years has allowed things to deteriorate here at home.

I'm sorry, but I believe in putting America first.  The Iraqi people are a distant second in my priority list.
Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.
Yeah....get out of Liberia....none of your business!!!!
Comrade Ogilvy
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Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.


Yeah...we should have a reprise of Ruby Ridge...Waco...and Midnight Basketball.
usmarine
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DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


A fantastic life, eh?...  Is that why 80 million Americans don't even have health insurance?

Life here is obviously better than in Iraq, but the focus on the Middle East over the last several years has allowed things to deteriorate here at home.

I'm sorry, but I believe in putting America first.  The Iraqi people are a distant second in my priority list.
Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.
Yeah....get out of Liberia....none of your business!!!!
"The footage, which Young said appeared to be 12 to 18 months old, shows Irish soldiers "mock" aiming at people in a nearby field who are seen taking cover, The Irish Times reported. The soldiers then walk away laughing."

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=860502007
CameronPoe
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DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


A fantastic life, eh?...  Is that why 80 million Americans don't even have health insurance?

Life here is obviously better than in Iraq, but the focus on the Middle East over the last several years has allowed things to deteriorate here at home.

I'm sorry, but I believe in putting America first.  The Iraqi people are a distant second in my priority list.
Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.
Yeah....get out of Liberia....none of your business!!!!
Quite frankly - why the fuck are we there? The UN should be disbanded.
lowing
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Comrade Ogilvy wrote:

Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.


Yeah...we should have a reprise of Ruby Ridge...Waco...and Midnight Basketball.
Hmmmmm, suffering at home?. record sales of Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, Iphone, flat panel TV's, and every other gadget you can think of. Not to mention we as a nation are fat as fuck.

Yes please by all means, the world needs to ban together and end the famine in the US. We need your help. We are all "SUFFERING". I personally, am almost too weak to make it Best Buy for my next purchase...........people are standing in line at Circuit City, not able to get a hold of an Iphone............ Help us before it is too late!!!!!!!!

I am forced to have my kids play outside and use their imaginations until dinner time since I am forced to wait until the PS3 drops in price. They have an xbox 360 with all the games and they are sick of it all ready!! So please hurry!!


If you could sponsor an American family TODAY, for only $150.00 a day, you could make sure we have all 3 of our late model SUV's serviced and gassed up. You could insure our kids will be able to sit on their fat asses in front of the big screen TV out of the excruciating 80 degree weather. Your contribution will ensure that your family will never again miss a single meal of Hot Pockets and Diet Cokes.


From your sponsored family you will get:

1. pictures of your family in front of their 4 bedroom house, that you help provide.

2. postcards taken while on vacation that would not be possible if not for your generosity

3. The knowledge of knowing that YOU have made a difference.

4. and of course e-mails on high speed internet, from your sponsored family keeping you updated on their progress.



So come on, open your hearts and your wallets, help save America, one family at a time.




edited for greater smart ass effect.

Last edited by lowing (2007-07-27 23:57:05)

Turquoise
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lowing wrote:

Comrade Ogilvy wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Don't be sorry, that's the way it should be. A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people suffering at home.
Yeah...we should have a reprise of Ruby Ridge...Waco...and Midnight Basketball.
Hmmmmm, suffering at home?. record sales of Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, Iphone, flat panel TV's, and every other gadget you can think of. Not to mention we as a nation are fat as fuck.

Yes please by all means, the world needs to ban together and end the famine in the US. We need your help. We are all "SUFFERING". I personally, am almost too weak to make it Best Buy for my next purchase...........people are standing in line at Circuit City, not able to get a hold of an Iphone............ Help us before it is too late!!!!!!!!

I am forced to have my kids play outside and use their imaginations until dinner time since I am forced to wait until the PS3 drops in price. They have an xbox 360 with all the games and they are sick of it all ready!! So please hurry!!


If you could sponsor an American family TODAY, for only $150.00 a day, you could make sure we have all 3 of our late model SUV's serviced and gassed up. You could insure our kids will be able to sit on their fat asses in front of the big screen TV out of the excruciating 80 degree weather. Your contribution will ensure that your family will never again miss a single meal of Hot Pockets and Diet Cokes.


From your sponsored family you will get:

1. pictures of your family in front of their 4 bedroom house, that you help provide.

2. postcards taken while on vacation that would not be possible if not for your generosity

3. The knowledge of knowing that YOU have made a difference.

4. and of course e-mails on high speed internet, from your sponsored family keeping you updated on their progress.



So come on, open your hearts and your wallets, help save America, one family at a time.




edited for greater smart ass effect.
First of all, I fixed this.  Braddock was the one originally quoted in response to my post.

Second, Waco had nothing to do with our foreign policy, so what the hell was that reference for?

Third, try living off of minimum wage.  Or how about try living off of Walmart wages.

While it is true that our consumption habits are gluttonous on the whole, you're deluded if you think all is well here.  The gap has been widening between the middle class and the rich, and the middle class itself is shrinking.

Take a look at the inner cities of America.  Take a look at the pathetic state that New Orleans was in BEFORE Katrina.  We have a shitload of domestic issues to deal with before we should be fucking with the outside world.
lowing
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Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

Comrade Ogilvy wrote:


Yeah...we should have a reprise of Ruby Ridge...Waco...and Midnight Basketball.
Hmmmmm, suffering at home?. record sales of Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, Iphone, flat panel TV's, and every other gadget you can think of. Not to mention we as a nation are fat as fuck.

Yes please by all means, the world needs to ban together and end the famine in the US. We need your help. We are all "SUFFERING". I personally, am almost too weak to make it Best Buy for my next purchase...........people are standing in line at Circuit City, not able to get a hold of an Iphone............ Help us before it is too late!!!!!!!!

I am forced to have my kids play outside and use their imaginations until dinner time since I am forced to wait until the PS3 drops in price. They have an xbox 360 with all the games and they are sick of it all ready!! So please hurry!!


If you could sponsor an American family TODAY, for only $150.00 a day, you could make sure we have all 3 of our late model SUV's serviced and gassed up. You could insure our kids will be able to sit on their fat asses in front of the big screen TV out of the excruciating 80 degree weather. Your contribution will ensure that your family will never again miss a single meal of Hot Pockets and Diet Cokes.


From your sponsored family you will get:

1. pictures of your family in front of their 4 bedroom house, that you help provide.

2. postcards taken while on vacation that would not be possible if not for your generosity

3. The knowledge of knowing that YOU have made a difference.

4. and of course e-mails on high speed internet, from your sponsored family keeping you updated on their progress.



So come on, open your hearts and your wallets, help save America, one family at a time.




edited for greater smart ass effect.
First of all, I fixed this.  Braddock was the one originally quoted in response to my post.

Second, Waco had nothing to do with our foreign policy, so what the hell was that reference for?

Third, try living off of minimum wage.  Or how about try living off of Walmart wages.

While it is true that our consumption habits are gluttonous on the whole, you're deluded if you think all is well here.  The gap has been widening between the middle class and the rich, and the middle class itself is shrinking.

Take a look at the inner cities of America.  Take a look at the pathetic state that New Orleans was in BEFORE Katrina.  We have a shitload of domestic issues to deal with before we should be fucking with the outside world.
My post was in reference to this.alone......"A country shouldn't be running around the world 'helping' people who haven't even asked for help when there are people SUFFERING at home".


All is WELL for those that strive to work for a better life.

You mentioned New Orleans, well, I hate to be the one to burst your bubble but New Orleans was a SHITHOLE, long before they had an excuse to be, you are correct. Are you honestly blaming those that get up in the morning and go to work to feed their familes for the state of New Orleans before and after the hurricance?? Why do I always fall back on personal responsibility? Oh I know, because it is always applicable. If New Orleans is a shithole, ( which it was and is) then move your ass out of it! Last I looked in America you were able to do that kinda thing.

Inner cities?,I see nicer cars than I drive, I see people on the streets with cell phones booze and cigarettes and shit. I also see people on the streets in the middle of the day WHO ARE NOT IN SCHOOL OR AT WORK. I also notice these people have money for drug deals on the streets, Nothing more to say about the inner cities.

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