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David.P wrote:

RedTwizzler wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Is this one of those freedoms where you can express yourself?


Because I'm not sure if you're expressing the right to convey yourself in the least intelligent way, or if you seriously think you're achieving something for your life and country by calling a defender of freedom a douchebag. Because it's not very intelligent. You might be taken for Cameron Poe.

(Operating under the assumption that usmarine is, indeed, a defender of freedom...) wouldn't he be happy that m3thod is utilizing the very thing he stood to protect? What's the problem?

He's going after marine personally not the brass that makes the decisions.

EDIT: How would you feel if someone that you gave a very important gift used it against you? Say you bought a rare sword for that friend then when you turn around he stabs you in the back. How would you feel?

Your anology sucks Mr Not Right in the Head

I'm telling you that carpet bombing would be quicker, cheaper, more effective, would give the US less bad press, and would spare our soldiers from being killed doing the job the Iraqis are unwilling to do.

Face it, killing people sucks, so lets do it from 10,000ft.  Islam breeds violence, hate, and immorality.  Iraq will be the worlds Palestine, the Middle East will be the worlds Middle East.  The religion is the problem.

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

What I find amazing is that someone posted a thread about something positive for once about the Iraq war. God knows we get enough trash about it on T.V news. In fact, if someone isn't bleeding, we don't hear about nothing. There are a lot of places in Iraq that are going well, there is a lot of things rebuilt and kids going to school. There are places where soldiers are dying to protect these kids and adults alike even though it is hard to tell who the enemy is.

In the fight that the U.S. soldiers are in, I believe they have done a hell of a job minimizing the horrors that can come from war. This post was to show some appreciation to guys who are doing the RIGHT thing while they are there. Of course, again, the mass media will only report if one of our soldiers doesn't do the right thing...WHICH IS VERY RARE!! But it is sad that it is the SAME people (you know who you are) in these forums who can not even allow a little light of hope and positivity flicker in these threads.

I found it hilarious that some of you couldn't even for one moment let a thread like this stand for what it was. Instead you have to turn into the same negative bullshit trash you guys always bring up. The negatives our soldiers do is very small compared to what the positives they live by every day. My friend died in Iraq doing the RIGHT thing and believing in what he was doing for his country. You may or may not like the reasons we are there, like a lot of people, but it is hilarious how few of you have ANY SELF CONTROL about even for one minute allowing a thread like this to give credit where credit is due.

Look, criticize and moan and whine when the time is right....but for God's sake, show a little class and SELF CONTROL about what you may feel. It no big shocking news story to know that some of you hate America, we know it, we have heard it practically every single day in these forums so spewing the negative stuff towards America does nothing but make you look like a giant, leaking ass in this type of thread. Have some integrity, show some self control and let this thread be what it was meant to be. Are you mature enough to do that??.....I certainly don't see it. Sometimes you have to look beyond your one sided hatred, your one track minds and sometimes show some thought for others that don't particularly agree with you....is that too hard??? Looks like it is too hard......pretty sad and pathetic.

QFT!

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

What I find amazing is that someone posted a thread about something positive for once about the Iraq war. God knows we get enough trash about it on T.V news. In fact, if someone isn't bleeding, we don't hear about nothing. There are a lot of places in Iraq that are going well, there is a lot of things rebuilt and kids going to school. There are places where soldiers are dying to protect these kids and adults alike even though it is hard to tell who the enemy is.

In the fight that the U.S. soldiers are in, I believe they have done a hell of a job minimizing the horrors that can come from war. This post was to show some appreciation to guys who are doing the RIGHT thing while they are there. Of course, again, the mass media will only report if one of our soldiers doesn't do the right thing...WHICH IS VERY RARE!! But it is sad that it is the SAME people (you know who you are) in these forums who can not even allow a little light of hope and positivity flicker in these threads.

I found it hilarious that some of you couldn't even for one moment let a thread like this stand for what it was. Instead you have to turn into the same negative bullshit trash you guys always bring up. The negatives our soldiers do is very small compared to what the positives they live by every day. My friend died in Iraq doing the RIGHT thing and believing in what he was doing for his country. You may or may not like the reasons we are there, like a lot of people, but it is hilarious how few of you have ANY SELF CONTROL about even for one minute allowing a thread like this to give credit where credit is due.

Look, criticize and moan and whine when the time is right....but for God's sake, show a little class and SELF CONTROL about what you may feel. It no big shocking news story to know that some of you hate America, we know it, we have heard it practically every single day in these forums so spewing the negative stuff towards America does nothing but make you look like a giant, leaking ass in this type of thread. Have some integrity, show some self control and let this thread be what it was meant to be. Are you mature enough to do that??.....I certainly don't see it. Sometimes you have to look beyond your one sided hatred, your one track minds and sometimes show some thought for others that don't particularly agree with you....is that too hard??? Looks like it is too hard......pretty sad and pathetic.

Do you understand what the word 'Debate' in 'Debate and Serious Talk' means?

U.S servicemen have good intentions but this asshole doesn't

Superior Mind wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Lies.  Jewish propaganda.

Shit..he's on to us. Quick to the Torahmobile fellow Jews!

We must repeat our attacks of 9/11!!!!

Bubbalo wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ever find it strange that other countries wrongdoings are never broadcast like they would be if it were the US?

Ever find it strange that the US is the most militarily aggressive nation on the planet?

Actually we are the biggest responder to military agression.

David.P wrote:

(My god ilberals are dumb)

I'm not dumb. That's why I don't have any problems with reading comprehension, as you appear to. See below.

David.P wrote:

(So you support people spitting on soldiers and disrespecting them?

Never said anything of the sort. You really should quit making up shit like that, just makes you look either foolish or like a liar.

David.P wrote:

You can go ahead and criticize the government, military brass, and anyone other decision maker but never ever insult the grunts!

No one should ever be above criticism. No one. Not in a free society. If they do wrong, people will speak of it and it's not for the likes of you to try and silence it.

David.P wrote:

These people have done nothing against you infact they've done so many things for you!

I can't think of how to say this without you taking it the wrong way, reading something into it, or just making shit up out of thin air, so I'll address it directly to the soldiers themselves, whichever ones may be reading this, who are far more fucking important than you will ever be.

Though I respect those of you who've signed up and are trying the best you can to do the right thing, you're not defending my freedom or really doing anything for me directly. The only people benefiting from your presence, your sacrifice right now are people who aren't fucking worth the grunge on the bottom of your boots. Your dedication to your duty is being used cheaply as are you yourselves. The worst among you are being excused, concealed and coddled by people who worship the uniform and don't give a rusty shit for the flesh and blood inside it.

People like DP here, they're not your friends. They support you as long as you continue to do what you're told and you supply them with the occasional bit of cadaver porn they can live vicariously through while you sweat out the reality of bullets and bombs. If you don't quietly follow orders and you speak up about policy you see as wrong, if you come home and they feel that the job isn't done to their satisfaction, they can and will turn on you. They will abandon and forget you like they did the soldiers who fought in Vietnam, who they saw as losers for being defeated by such a "weak" military power. They will angrily tell stories about "hippies" and "liberals" spitting on you when you came home while they pretend not to see your brothers, broken in body and mind, wandering neglected through the streets or begging for spare change so they can buy another bottle of rotgut to chase the memories away.

For you, the soldiers, the ones doing the job and trying to retain your humanity, the ones not shooting Iraqi civilians and then planting shovels and AK47s on them, the ones just trying to keep yourselves alive in a situation you didn't ask to be in, I respect you and my thoughts and hopes are with you. All I ask in return is that you understand that because of the position the soldier occupies in our society, the power you have over life and death, I will always scrutinize what you do and criticize those I see as wrong. Not because I hate soldiers, but because I know what they're meant to be. Not gods, not flawless heroes, just men and women who defend others from harm.

David.P wrote:

I see that many people like strykker described are blaming the soldiers because it's easier

The people strykker described in that other thread are fucking idiots. I mean horror-movie-character stupid. But, if you didn't make a disingenuous attempt to equate people like that with people like me, well, it just wouldn't be you.

David.P wrote:

They cant just walk into a military base point their fingers in the CO's face they'ed be shot! Most lib's are cowards thats why they attack soldiers, Give them a gun and send em off to Iraq what do you think they'll do? Thats right they'll just throw it away and try to reason with the enemy! Soldiers dont talk they fight that kind of work is for  the politicians that bullshit diplomatically handle the enemy.

Rambling, incoherent, contradictory nonsense that I don't even know how to address, especially with you answering your own questions like you're schizophrenic. Seriously, lay off the Robitussin.

David.P wrote:

Ya it does kinda suck but what would happen if we let Saudi arabia have california in a fair trade? Maybe then you'll learn to appreciate what you had.

Go ahead, I don't live in California.

Of course it doesn't matter since despite your fevered wishes, you're not in a position to give shit to anyone.

David.P wrote:

So hunter tell your liberal hippie friends to stop going up to soldiers and starting shit or they will regret it later on.

Oh don't you wish. Oh wait, yes you do, now that I recall your little fantasies from strykker's thread.

David.P wrote:

Shit man if i was you i would have lashed out so hard. Fuck i would've been in a paddy wagon for 8 counts of homocide and 1 count of rape.(Ya bimbo i'm talking to you wink Get down and suck it!)

What a charming individual you must be in real life. Real hit with the ladies, I can tell.

David.P wrote:

Wait I got a great Idea! Listen man i'm gonna come down there by car(No searches) You just gimme the address of the super market i'll meet up with you at a place of your choosing, Then you'll walk in with a shirt that says Marines i'll come in after you with my dc9 and the first person that says shit will get their ass blasted. /Kidding of course (For now... MWUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

Apparently in Davie's America, people would be summarily executed for speaking out of turn. Where's that guy that was talking about brownshirts before...

David.P wrote:

Dude want me to come up there and teach em a few things? .45 rounds are cheaper up there(Seems you all prefer 9mm for some reason) So i could use the trip as an excuse for a "resupply run"

Ah, "resupply run", love the pseudo-military speak, makes you sound like a real hardass. Lemme guess, you use words like "sitrep", "AO" and "intel" in regular conversations too don't you.

David.P wrote:

I dont take shit from strange people ever!  Like is said, I'm surprised how he handled himself if it was me i'd be in jail.

strykker handled himself like a professional. You would have either not said shit even if you had a mouthful and then seethed over it later complete with the above fantasies about what you'd like to do to them or you'd have taken a swing at someone and ended up both dishonorably discharged and getting your ass recalibrated by your cellmate for the next year or so.

I'll bet you see yourself as a real tough customer. I'll bet you also don't see how people look at you, a big blowhard parody of the people you claim to support, people who live lives of honor, distinction and duty while you sit safe on the sidelines imagining that you have even an ounce of what it takes to be like them, imagining that you know what honor, distinction and duty even are. You've got as much of a grasp on those concepts as a gorilla would on Nietzsche's entire body of work. You're a bully, a brute, someone who would use force to impose his will on other people simply because you could and I thank everything good and decent in this world that you're not a uniformed soldier of this country.

Hurricane wrote:

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

David.P wrote:

(My god ilberals are dumb)

I'm not dumb. That's why I don't have any problems with reading comprehension, as you appear to. See below.

David.P wrote:

(So you support people spitting on soldiers and disrespecting them?

Never said anything of the sort. You really should quit making up shit like that, just makes you look either foolish or like a liar.

David.P wrote:

You can go ahead and criticize the government, military brass, and anyone other decision maker but never ever insult the grunts!

No one should ever be above criticism. No one. Not in a free society. If they do wrong, people will speak of it and it's not for the likes of you to try and silence it.

David.P wrote:

These people have done nothing against you infact they've done so many things for you!

I can't think of how to say this without you taking it the wrong way, reading something into it, or just making shit up out of thin air, so I'll address it directly to the soldiers themselves, whichever ones may be reading this, who are far more fucking important than you will ever be.

Though I respect those of you who've signed up and are trying the best you can to do the right thing, you're not defending my freedom or really doing anything for me directly. The only people benefiting from your presence, your sacrifice right now are people who aren't fucking worth the grunge on the bottom of your boots. Your dedication to your duty is being used cheaply as are you yourselves. The worst among you are being excused, concealed and coddled by people who worship the uniform and don't give a rusty shit for the flesh and blood inside it.

People like DP here, they're not your friends. They support you as long as you continue to do what you're told and you supply them with the occasional bit of cadaver porn they can live vicariously through while you sweat out the reality of bullets and bombs. If you don't quietly follow orders and you speak up about policy you see as wrong, if you come home and they feel that the job isn't done to their satisfaction, they can and will turn on you. They will abandon and forget you like they did the soldiers who fought in Vietnam, who they saw as losers for being defeated by such a "weak" military power. They will angrily tell stories about "hippies" and "liberals" spitting on you when you came home while they pretend not to see your brothers, broken in body and mind, wandering neglected through the streets or begging for spare change so they can buy another bottle of rotgut to chase the memories away.

For you, the soldiers, the ones doing the job and trying to retain your humanity, the ones not shooting Iraqi civilians and then planting shovels and AK47s on them, the ones just trying to keep yourselves alive in a situation you didn't ask to be in, I respect you and my thoughts and hopes are with you. All I ask in return is that you understand that because of the position the soldier occupies in our society, the power you have over life and death, I will always scrutinize what you do and criticize those I see as wrong. Not because I hate soldiers, but because I know what they're meant to be. Not gods, not flawless heroes, just men and women who defend others from harm.

David.P wrote:

I see that many people like strykker described are blaming the soldiers because it's easier

The people strykker described in that other thread are fucking idiots. I mean horror-movie-character stupid. But, if you didn't make a disingenuous attempt to equate people like that with people like me, well, it just wouldn't be you.

David.P wrote:

They cant just walk into a military base point their fingers in the CO's face they'ed be shot! Most lib's are cowards thats why they attack soldiers, Give them a gun and send em off to Iraq what do you think they'll do? Thats right they'll just throw it away and try to reason with the enemy! Soldiers dont talk they fight that kind of work is for  the politicians that bullshit diplomatically handle the enemy.

Rambling, incoherent, contradictory nonsense that I don't even know how to address, especially with you answering your own questions like you're schizophrenic. Seriously, lay off the Robitussin.

David.P wrote:

Ya it does kinda suck but what would happen if we let Saudi arabia have california in a fair trade? Maybe then you'll learn to appreciate what you had.

Go ahead, I don't live in California.

Of course it doesn't matter since despite your fevered wishes, you're not in a position to give shit to anyone.

David.P wrote:

So hunter tell your liberal hippie friends to stop going up to soldiers and starting shit or they will regret it later on.

Oh don't you wish. Oh wait, yes you do, now that I recall your little fantasies from strykker's thread.

David.P wrote:

Shit man if i was you i would have lashed out so hard. Fuck i would've been in a paddy wagon for 8 counts of homocide and 1 count of rape.(Ya bimbo i'm talking to you wink Get down and suck it!)

What a charming individual you must be in real life. Real hit with the ladies, I can tell.

David.P wrote:

Wait I got a great Idea! Listen man i'm gonna come down there by car(No searches) You just gimme the address of the super market i'll meet up with you at a place of your choosing, Then you'll walk in with a shirt that says Marines i'll come in after you with my dc9 and the first person that says shit will get their ass blasted. /Kidding of course (For now... MWUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHUHU AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

Apparently in Davie's America, people would be summarily executed for speaking out of turn. Where's that guy that was talking about brownshirts before...

David.P wrote:

Dude want me to come up there and teach em a few things? .45 rounds are cheaper up there(Seems you all prefer 9mm for some reason) So i could use the trip as an excuse for a "resupply run"

Ah, "resupply run", love the pseudo-military speak, makes you sound like a real hardass. Lemme guess, you use words like "sitrep", "AO" and "intel" in regular conversations too don't you.

David.P wrote:

I dont take shit from strange people ever!  Like is said, I'm surprised how he handled himself if it was me i'd be in jail.

strykker handled himself like a professional. You would have either not said shit even if you had a mouthful and then seethed over it later complete with the above fantasies about what you'd like to do to them or you'd have taken a swing at someone and ended up both dishonorably discharged and getting your ass recalibrated by your cellmate for the next year or so.

I'll bet you see yourself as a real tough customer. I'll bet you also don't see how people look at you, a big blowhard parody of the people you claim to support, people who live lives of honor, distinction and duty while you sit safe on the sidelines imagining that you have even an ounce of what it takes to be like them, imagining that you know what honor, distinction and duty even are. You've got as much of a grasp on those concepts as a gorilla would on Nietzsche's entire body of work. You're a bully, a brute, someone who would use force to impose his will on other people simply because you could and I thank everything good and decent in this world that you're not a uniformed soldier of this country.

Owned.

... Your a god.

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

David.P wrote:

(My god ilberals are dumb)

I'm not dumb. That's why I don't have any problems with reading comprehension, as you appear to. See below.

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I'll bet you see yourself as a real tough customer. I'll bet you also don't see how people look at you, a big blowhard parody of the people you claim to support, people who live lives of honor, distinction and duty while you sit safe on the sidelines imagining that you have even an ounce of what it takes to be like them, imagining that you know what honor, distinction and duty even are. You've got as much of a grasp on those concepts as a gorilla would on Nietzsche's entire body of work. You're a bully, a brute, someone who would use force to impose his will on other people simply because you could and I thank everything good and decent in this world that you're not a uniformed soldier of this country.

I call that Check, mate, good game.

Stay safe.

The_Mac wrote:

RedTwizzler wrote:

(Operating under the assumption that usmarine is, indeed, a defender of freedom...) wouldn't he be happy that m3thod is utilizing the very thing he stood to protect? What's the problem?

Don't be stupid. Calling someone a douchebag is not intelligent, especially someone who protects someobody else--including yourself. Would you be happy if somebody called you a douchebag?

Douhebag!

m3thod wrote:

Your anology sucks Mr Not Right in the Head

Your trolling lacks substance. Try again later.

Good lord! I'm being referred to as a peado....and yet that escapes your trolling insinuations....

David.P wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Ever find it strange that other countries wrongdoings are never broadcast like they would be if it were the US?

Ever find it strange that the US is the most militarily aggressive nation on the planet?

Actually we are the biggest responder to military agression.

I would like to take this time to remind the jury that Iraq and Afganhistan were preemptive wars. (Source: The government.)