Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7029|Cambridge (UK)

Toilet Sex wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Toilet Sex wrote:


No, it doesn't. If I spot the commander at Gatehouse while none of my team are near Gatehouse, it is no use. Unless in these new wave of hack threads there has been a teleport hack I missed, I can't see the point and it's wasting time when you could be helping your team.
Yeah, but it doesn't take the whole team to cap the Square.


If you've got a friendly spec-ops lone-wolf running around, spotting the commander at the Gatehouse could be far more important than spotting any other player, anywhere, on the map.


As someone else implied - it all depends on context - do the right thing at the right time - even when that might appear to be 'spotted spamming' to everybody else.
No shit it doesn't take the whole team to cap it, but what I was saying is if no one is near the commander, no point in spotting him/her. Also, like I just said:

Toilet Sex wrote:

If I spot the commander at Gatehouse while none of my team are near Gatehouse, it is no use.
None of my team = no one. No lone spec-ops guy. Nothing. If someone is near there or on their way, yes, I'll spot the commander. But not when no one on my team is there.
Now you're just splitting hairs that I'd already split!

The main thrust of my point is that it's easy for everybody that isn't the commander to accuse the commander of 'spamming spotted' 'cos he's spotting something for some reason that you're not aware of.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6716|The Twilight Zone

Toilet Sex wrote:

No lone spec-ops guy. Nothing. If someone is near there or on their way, yes, I'll spot the commander. But not when no one on my team is there.
If we are USMC and the whole right island is under MEC control and none of my teammates are there ofc i wont spot unless a tank is closing fast.
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HITNRUNXX
Member
+220|6973|Oklahoma City

.Sup wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Spot what helps is my take on it. "What helps" does not include...snipers swimming in the middle of the ocean...
Yes spotting the swimming sniper may not help you but it certainly would help to the chopper crew. Its an easy kill. And whats easier then killing an AFK guy?

.Sup wrote:

I guess you hate me. Too bad.
Why even ask what people's general opinion are if you are going to act like that? Trolling for flamewars?

The simple fact of the matter is when you spam things meaninglessly all over the map you can interfere with actual teamwork. If VOIP people can't hear each other over you (why I have in game voice turned to like 2%) or your spam text can scroll IMPORTANT teamwork texst before it can be read.

Also, choppers should be out HELPING their team... Not killing snipers in the middle of the ocean... Every minute that sniper is swimming is one minute that sniper is not picking off your team, or spam claymoring a capture point. Too bad that tank just raped the 2 squads capping flags while you sent the tank killing chopper out after that "easy kill."
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6716|The Twilight Zone

HITNRUNXX wrote:

.Sup wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Spot what helps is my take on it. "What helps" does not include...snipers swimming in the middle of the ocean...
Yes spotting the swimming sniper may not help you but it certainly would help to the chopper crew. Its an easy kill. And whats easier then killing an AFK guy?

.Sup wrote:

I guess you hate me. Too bad.
Why even ask what people's general opinion are if you are going to act like that? Trolling for flamewars?
I see you missed the first page. Here you go man.

.Sup wrote:

I usually play on INF only but when commanding i'm almost always on a vehicle server. This thread was made so i can get some tips from all of you. I don't want to be annoying on pubs with wild spotting (ofc this doesn't count when i'm playing conquest competitively ).
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HITNRUNXX wrote:

The simple fact of the matter is when you spam things meaninglessly all over the map you can interfere with actual teamwork. If VOIP people can't hear each other over you (why I have in game voice turned to like 2%) or your spam text can scroll IMPORTANT teamwork texst before it can be read.

Also, choppers should be out HELPING their team... Not killing snipers in the middle of the ocean... Every minute that sniper is swimming is one minute that sniper is not picking off your team, or spam claymoring a capture point. Too bad that tank just raped the 2 squads capping flags while you sent the tank killing chopper out after that "easy kill."
There are so many things people should do differently but all they want to do is killing. And i dont blame them. Thats why ill try to spot an easy kill for them. I hope we wont meet on a server cos you would probably issue a vote against me.
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De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6790|Belgium

and for the love of god, DON'T spot anything under the uav.

Spotting the relevant things are good, spotting everything is annoying as hell.
Toilet Sex
one love, one pig
+1,775|6835

.Sup wrote:

I hope we wont meet on a server cos you would probably issue a vote against me.
Or you might mutiny vote him if he gets the commander spot over you.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6716|The Twilight Zone

De_Jappe wrote:

and for the love of god, DON'T spot anything under the uav.

Spotting the relevant things are good, spotting everything is annoying as hell.
I never spot under the UAV. That would be silly. Never seen people being spot under it but i see it happened to some of you guys. Sad.
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cospengle
Member
+140|6750|Armidale, NSW, Australia

De_Jappe wrote:

and for the love of god, DON'T spot anything under the uav.
I spot tanks and stuff that are under UAV when the UAV's about to run out or if they're moving out of range of the UAV.
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|6941|Middle of nowhere

mtb0minime wrote:

As commander, I only spot the enemies that are a threat to my players, and aren't covered by the uav. And also I'll spot the stray ones that are trying to be clever and make a move.

Sometimes a blind spot is called for, though, and I'll tell a squad at a flag I'm doing a blind spot just to make sure no one's around the flag they're going for.


But for the most part, the spam is extremely annoying and completely unnecessary.
you sir, are a commander i would love to have on my team

i also do the exact same thing
_1_MAN-ARMY.12
Banned
+1|6380|Southern California, USA

I'm Jamesey wrote:

I want the commander to only spot enemies that are at risk to squadleaders or at risk to people capturing/defending flags.

It's no help if the commander is spotting every enemy on the map at the same time, or spotting the same sniper 12 times in one second.

sensible spotting along with the uav is the best thing a commander can do.
Tjasso
the "Commander"
+102|6786|the Netherlands
Next time try following my orders !  love saying that on and on to the same squad 
Negatory Just kidding , I use it sometimes

enemy forces spotted ?
enemy forces spotted ?
enemy forces spotted ?
enemy forces spotted ?
...
sorry , my bad

enemy Jet spotted !!! LoL

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Klinka-Klinko
NIKE Swoosh
+101|6483|cs_connecticut‬‭
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Sniper Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Sniper Spotted!
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted!
Spider1980
#1 Commander
+92|6804|Washington

Klinka-Klinko wrote:

Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Sniper Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Infantry Spotted!
Enemy Sniper Spotted!
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted!
Canuckboi
Member
+1|6380|Vancouver, Canada

k30dxedle wrote:

Spot what helps is my take on it. "What helps" does not include inanimate objects, snipers swimming in the middle of the ocean, out-of-control planes 5 miles over the edge of the map, the 15 people at the J-10 spawn point, and the AFK guy repeatedly falling to his death at a parachute spawn.
lol exactly
Spider1980
#1 Commander
+92|6804|Washington
well if you call out 15 people at a spawn point, then the guy in the jet on your team should fly over and take them out. someone swimming out in the ocean should be killed by a helicopter or a jet. any one person can spawn out 5 guys so everyone should be killed no matter where they are. and if more than one person would listen to the commander, then there would be no reason to spam a target that is going to get a main base or who is a threat to whatever. the commander is the one paying attention to every player on the map, and the patterns. no one else seems to be paying attention to that. so listen to commander at all times. commander has a strategy and he needs everyone to cooperate or else its useless to even try.
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6587|Graz, Austria

.Sup wrote:

Yes spotting the swimming sniper may not help you but it certainly would help to the chopper crew. Its an easy kill. And whats easier then killing an AFK guy? Being AFK and dieing while parachuting can only happen in BF42.
That's exactly the point what the other people said.
It's completely useless to use a spot there.
You can easily give an attack order to the heli crew in the general area where the sniper is swimming.
Ssandstorm
Member
+73|6997|Perth, Western Australia
Spotting back flags to see if any enemies have snuck through is one of the best tactics for a commander. It stops flags from being taken.

P.S. Scotch Mist is Scottish.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6716|The Twilight Zone

globefish23 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Yes spotting the swimming sniper may not help you but it certainly would help to the chopper crew. Its an easy kill. And whats easier then killing an AFK guy? Being AFK and dieing while parachuting can only happen in BF42.
That's exactly the point what the other people said.
It's completely useless to use a spot there.
You can easily give an attack order to the heli crew in the general area where the sniper is swimming.
Your statement doesnt make much sense to me. I should send the helo to kill the fishes, is that what you are saying?
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vex69
Member
+0|6403
Commanders that spot whore suck, im sorry but its retarded, how hard is it to throw uav over the majority of the enemy force? spot the few that are a threat.... just spot them once, no one cares about the commander hiding in a corner, just drop a crate on his ass. The best commander is one that can assist in combat and still do a job of commanding, of course i dont play in 64v64 man servers, in a 32 man tho commander whores suck........... just command and fight......... its not hard if you got a lil bit of skill.......
Nikola Bathory
Karkand T-90 0wnage
+163|7049|Bulgaria
I love to spot the enemy as commander!
enemy infantry spotted x2516635 times!!!! I love it!
l41e
Member
+677|6911

cospengle wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

... and the AFK guy repeatedly falling to his death at a parachute spawn.
rofl
Unfortunately I'm not even kidding. I had a commander on Warlord who would spot the guy every-single-fucking-time-he-spawned. So every 15 seconds there'd be "Enemy Infantry Spotted!1!11one" and a dot which stayed on the map for two seconds.
weasel_thingo
Member
+74|6590
i dont mind it, apart from the MEC commander why the fuck must he shout WHY?!?!?!?!?!
Cyrax-Sektor
Official Battlefield fanboy
+240|6411|San Antonio, Texas
Commanders should use this gift from God to spot threats nearby troops, or to inform people of a sneaky trooper or three advancing to an out-of-the-way CP (like Train Accident on Karkand where most everyone's busy at Hotel). That way some people could spawn there and dispose of the threat.

But constantly spotting the same unit is not efficient. It may give the feeling that there are a swarm of tanks, where there is actually only one.
3lmo
Don't Hassel the Hoff
+345|6566|The | Netherlands
I don't spot all the time, that's annoying. I place uav and spot sometimes for the lone wolfes, the rest of the time I'm pressing page down non stop.
']['error
Banned
+630|6907|The Netherlands

3lmo wrote:

I don't spot all the time, that's annoying. I place uav and spot sometimes for the lone wolfes, the rest of the time I'm pressing page down non stop.

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