We weren't talking about the USS Liberty incident? Damn. Too bad I can't get streaming video here...
This is just one example of how our government has been involved in false flag terror attacks. You think Illuminati is just a fucking consiperacy theroy?! WAKE UP PEOPLE.
Let Israel be put in a position to defend itself AGAIN, against the arab nations and tell me which side of that conflict Egypt will fall.Braddock wrote:
Egypt have accepted their existence, and them a Country involved in prior conflicts with Israel ...I hold hope that somewhere in the future the other nations can follow suit. US interference in the region and unconditional support of Israel definitely doesn't help the cause. If I were an American I'd REALLY be demanding more for my cash from Israel, they seem to gobble up all your aid money and just about give the minimum back to you in terms of their behaviour.lowing wrote:
I agree but here is the real problem,Braddock wrote:
I like debating with you lowing and you're always very factual but you're prone to selectivity with your facts when it comes to Israel. I know the olive branch has been extended ...but by both sides, and both sides suffer at the hands of their extremists. Remember Yigal Amir who killed Rabin after he signed the Oslo accords? And what about the 2002 Saudi peace initiative (a fairly reasonable deal where both sides are concerned)? You say the Palestinians have elected extremists to office but that's what constantly happens in Israel, they go for extreme right wing leaders over moderate ones. I don't find it surprising that Israel have crushed their neighbours in almost every war they've had, given that the US have put them in the position of having one of the most dangerous armies on the planet, I just find it very unfair.
What needs to happen in Israel/Palestine is what has happened in Northern Ireland ...the blame game needs to stop (it's totally pointless) and both sides need to accept that the other is here to stay and REAL leaders have to stand up on both sides and control the grass roots extremists ...and that is NOT easy, it will sadly take many, many years.
Israle and Palestine find peace, do you think any of the Arab nations are going to settle for that bullshit?? Hell no!! The only way there will be peace there is by the Arab nations recognizing Israel's right to exist. That will never happen and you will still be there blaming Israel for it.
...but hey, it's all okay coz Tony Blair is there to save the day now! lol
It simply kills me that Israel is and has been treated like it has since 1948 and it is a total mystery as to why they have built a strong military and use it. I swear you all act like the Arab nations are the victims to Israeli agression and THEY have to defend themselves against Israeli invading them bent on THEIR destruction.
Sounds like when the British got the Israelis involved in the Suez crisis so they could join in.LT.Victim wrote:
Hmm.. US ordering an attack against Americans for an excuse to go to war, sound Familiar?
Israel have no right to exist.. it was created on stolen land...lowing wrote:
I agree but here is the real problem,Braddock wrote:
I like debating with you lowing and you're always very factual but you're prone to selectivity with your facts when it comes to Israel. I know the olive branch has been extended ...but by both sides, and both sides suffer at the hands of their extremists. Remember Yigal Amir who killed Rabin after he signed the Oslo accords? And what about the 2002 Saudi peace initiative (a fairly reasonable deal where both sides are concerned)? You say the Palestinians have elected extremists to office but that's what constantly happens in Israel, they go for extreme right wing leaders over moderate ones. I don't find it surprising that Israel have crushed their neighbours in almost every war they've had, given that the US have put them in the position of having one of the most dangerous armies on the planet, I just find it very unfair.lowing wrote:
Israel has offered olive branches in the past, only to be answered with rocket attacks and suicide bombers, oh, along with the voting in office a terrorist group well known for its determination to see Israel destroyed. Do you really think the Palestininians are helping them selves by such actions? The fact is all these groups have tried to do, is destroy Israel, and Israel, in its fight for survival, has won the upper hand and intends on keeping it. This somehow pisses you off.
Bottom line is, it has been shown time and time again, as soon as Israel tries to let its gaurd down they are exploited. Israel says no fucking more, and I don't blame them.
What needs to happen in Israel/Palestine is what has happened in Northern Ireland ...the blame game needs to stop (it's totally pointless) and both sides need to accept that the other is here to stay and REAL leaders have to stand up on both sides and control the grass roots extremists ...and that is NOT easy, it will sadly take many, many years.
Israle and Palestine find peace, do you think any of the Arab nations are going to settle for that bullshit?? Hell no!! The only way there will be peace there is by the Arab nations recognizing Israel's right to exist. That will never happen and you will still be there blaming Israel for it.
Ill go create a chinese land in the middle of your state and ill be deporting all the people already living there to make room for the poor chinese who suffered sooo much in the past.. The chinese will start bulldozing you houses and uprooting your trees to make you leave.. they will set up check points to make your life a living hell.. Ill be giving to the poor chinese tons of money and free weapons so they can "defend" themselves.
Will you just move on and leave your land? Or will you stand up and fight back? answer honestly