Look at the lives ,time and money spent on this...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … and131.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … and131.xml
Yeah, but that has been going on for awhile now... Or, maybe I should say 'had'
wow. thatss really good that Britain ended it. But it doesnt show the light at the end of the tunnel for USA troops or civilians. .
Was it supposed to be relevant?Silentkillr69 wrote:
wow. thatss really good that Britain ended it. But it doesnt show the light at the end of the tunnel for USA troops or civilians. .
This seems kind of retarded as a comparison.
How many British soldiers died?
How many mass bombings of civilians were there, beheadings, etc.
How many British soldiers died?
How many mass bombings of civilians were there, beheadings, etc.
From a military standpoint the British in Northern Ireland were worse off than the Americans in Iraq. The British were up against a force that was vastly superior to anything we have seen in Iraq. The IRA were well equipped, well trained, and well organized, they could only be described as professional. The Iraqi insurgents are mostly untrained, very poorly equipped and equally poorly organized. Also the IRA were mostly unified, there was little if any infighting between Irish factions, while the factions in Iraq hate each other as much as they hate the Americans.
However the British had inherited a much easier situation, the people of Northern Ireland were for the most part not nearly as hostile toward the British. Also Northern Ireland is and was under the British government, which allowed them to have more direct control over the situation. Also Northern Ireland was not at lack of basic living resources. Also the IRA inflicted far less causalities against civilians, as they preferred to target the military and police forces. In the Iraqi insurgents attack Iraqi civilians regularly, which just makes the hull thing allot messier. Also the people of Northern Ireland had access to basic resources (food, clean water, medical supplies) which the Iraqi people do not. With such a lack of resources the leaders of insurgent factions are able to recruit new people easier by promising these things.
So yeah Iraq has more problems than Northern Ireland did.
However the British had inherited a much easier situation, the people of Northern Ireland were for the most part not nearly as hostile toward the British. Also Northern Ireland is and was under the British government, which allowed them to have more direct control over the situation. Also Northern Ireland was not at lack of basic living resources. Also the IRA inflicted far less causalities against civilians, as they preferred to target the military and police forces. In the Iraqi insurgents attack Iraqi civilians regularly, which just makes the hull thing allot messier. Also the people of Northern Ireland had access to basic resources (food, clean water, medical supplies) which the Iraqi people do not. With such a lack of resources the leaders of insurgent factions are able to recruit new people easier by promising these things.
So yeah Iraq has more problems than Northern Ireland did.
Hasn`t the problem in Ireland for the British been going on for over a century?
Didn't you ever see Braveheart?
Is that the one where Mel Gibson hates Jews?ATG wrote:
Didn't you ever see Braveheart?
Yeah...that movie had to do with Scotland!ATG wrote:
Didn't you ever see Braveheart?
You underestimate the power of the dark side [of fanatical islamists].doctastrangelove1964 wrote:
From a military standpoint the British in Northern Ireland were worse off than the Americans in Iraq. The British were up against a force that was vastly superior to anything we have seen in Iraq. The IRA were well equipped, well trained, and well organized, they could only be described as professional. The Iraqi insurgents are mostly untrained, very poorly equipped and equally poorly organized. Also the IRA were mostly unified, there was little if any infighting between Irish factions, while the factions in Iraq hate each other as much as they hate the Americans.
What about the second battle where the Irish mercenaries turned and attacked the army of the King?Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
Yeah...that movie had to do with Scotland!ATG wrote:
Didn't you ever see Braveheart?
I think all the Scotttish soldiers were played by Irishmen. I remember seeing that in a "making of"
More than have died in Iraq. Plenty of mass bombings of civilians, no beheadings as far as I know. Here's a taster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Friday_%281972%29ATG wrote:
This seems kind of retarded as a comparison.
How many British soldiers died?
How many mass bombings of civilians were there, beheadings, etc.
Point 3 in the IRA training manual states a goal of 'making the six counties ungovernable except by colonial rule'. Sounds a bit like Iraq. You guys are gonna be there a loooong time.
800 years and it's the other way around: the problem in Ireland for the Irish has been the British.Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
Hasn`t the problem in Ireland for the British been going on for over a century?
Braveheart was following the 'interesting' trend of American films 'slightly' altering history when it comes to making blockbusters.ATG wrote:
What about the second battle where the Irish mercenaries turned and attacked the army of the King?Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
Yeah...that movie had to do with Scotland!ATG wrote:
Didn't you ever see Braveheart?
750 over 25 years in a land with 1.2million ppl in it during the troubles. Iraqi has what? 50million so its not that retarded. 750x50=37500ATG wrote:
This seems kind of retarded as a comparison.
How many British soldiers died?
I know an ex cop who was in a army armoured car and a bomb with a copper pointed head was dropped off a bridge, it penetrated the armoured roof and the bomb super heated the copper which exploded around the inside of the armoured car decapitating 6 solders instantly.It was just done differently here....a killing is a killing. Doing it on camera is no less vicious.ATG wrote:
How many mass bombings of civilians were there, beheadings, etc.
For mass killings of civilians see The Omagh Bomb http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/nor … efault.stm