GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7084
thats anthropology for ya
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7002

TheDarkRaven wrote:

You been watching 300? That's not strictly true...
So, the kicking of inferior children over cliffs was actually just for fun?
David.P
Banned
+649|6715

Bubbalo wrote:

David.P wrote:

Theres times when we should respect peoples culture and theres times when we should eliminate it from the face of this earth! Hell yeah interfere!
I dont care what you say the defense of innocent life is the biggest priority the UN should have not who's turn is it next to bring the rackets and shuttlecock, I wonder if this was a western government doing this WWHD?
So, you're going to stop them killing their children by killing them all?

Is this another joke?  Because if it is, you need to work on your joke-making some more.
No this is not a joke. I was going to give them an ultimatum either give up your unwanted children to us or face death. I dont like seeing innocents die but hey hippies want me to respect a culture of murder just "Because" Well you know what? Fuck it! No innocent on this planet should die in anyway! Why cant you understand that protection of life is vital? Why do call us murderers and tyrants when we fight? Why is it that you can call abortions allright! But not war against an Idealogy? Why can you call me a capitolist pig but i cant call you a commie? Why the double standards with the liberal mindset? Please tell me why you are allowed to do and say everything but i am not allowed to my own opinion? Please explain to me in words why dont yell and dont curse or i will stoop down to that level and beat you.

/Off topic See the libs forced us to do this you made us put up with so much BS now we lash out, We dont want no understanding! We're sick and tired of being villainized by them, We will fight back when pushed to the edge, Those bastard commies can go fuck a duck for all i care. Murder is murder but you try and justify yours.

Last edited by David.P (2007-07-31 11:08:53)

Bull3t
stephen brule
+83|6743
Let them be who they want to be.
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|7037
This is how the Spartans did it and they were fucking awesome.
agent146
Member
+127|6827|Jesus Land aka Canada

Flecco wrote:

Oh no, when 'tribal' people do it it's allowed, but if Germans do it suddenly they are everybody's worst enemy and can be labelled Nazis...


[/sarcasm]
ya ya man. THEY ARE LIKE NUTZi. but seriously i don't see the problem is....mainly because we have abortions...so hey.
don't get me wrong i think its bad but ...man what are we to do? go over there and make em stop?....with guns?
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7071|Washington, DC

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7212|PNW

We kill babies too. It would be hypocritical to interfere...
topal63
. . .
+533|7159

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
Bye-bye now - enjoy your trip (in fact take David P. with you).

No one is stopping you. Feel free to pursue your convictions. In fact I applaud them. Go ahead bye a plane ticket. Converse with the elders and then adopt whomever you wish.

Edit:

David.P wrote:

So when we go out and do missionary work trying to make them understand that infanticide is wrong its bad, But when they come to us and demand us to concede to their demands it's okay? Again i'm in awe with the hypocrisy of the liberals.
Sorry, but this does not intrigue me enough into a response. It's rather nonsensical - and it seems you have yet to finish an argument with yourself.

David.P wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

When have they ever come looking for people to accept them.  They were never looking for anyone's permission or approval.  Yet again, you can't make an argument, so everything wrong in the world is the fault of liberals, when this isn't even about us or conservatives/liberals.
When they were brought to trial for cannabilism in the 1600's for killing and eating British explorers. (They also practiced infanticide) Actually the downfall of america is because of liberal asskissing of our enemies.
LOL

Last edited by topal63 (2007-07-31 14:47:18)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7071|Washington, DC

topal63 wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
Bye-bye now - enjoy your trip (in fact tack David P. with you).

No one is stopping you. Feel free to pursue your convictions. In fact I applaud them. Go ahead bye a plane ticket. Converse with the elders and then adopt whomever you wish.
Okay...
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6888|Boulder, CO
survival or the fittest,  just at an increased speed, besides the earths overpopulated anyway, i'd be  fine with it as long as it was done humanely.
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|7037

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
You're terrible at playing the Devil's Advocate role.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7177|Salt Lake City

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
These people aren't in any neighborhoods.  They live in extreme seclusion from the rest of the world.  What they do affects only their tribe, and they are not attempting to push their beliefs on others.

If you can't make an accurate analogy, don't make one.
Protecus
Prophet of Certain Certainties
+28|6963
Coming from an advanced society, it is easy for us to condemn them.

We have more than enough food and resources to care for the disabled. In America alone, we waste an average of 5.4 Billion pounds of food per year, just at the retail level. Another 91 Billion by consumers. 

The isolation and extreme rural environment these people live in make caring for the disable not just a burden but possibly life threatening for the entire tribe.

If we are going to demand they change their ways, take into account we better start shipping them food, clothing, medicine, educational materials...

Still feel convicted?
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6991|CH/BR - in UK

This is a true dilemma - I really don't know. I'd change it, putting them up for adoption as GorillaTicTacs suggested.

-konfusion
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7158|Riva, MD
That's disgusting, if they can't act like normal human beings, perhaps they are the disabled people.
David.P
Banned
+649|6715

topal63 wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
Bye-bye now - enjoy your trip (in fact take David P. with you).

No one is stopping you. Feel free to pursue your convictions. In fact I applaud them. Go ahead bye a plane ticket. Converse with the elders and then adopt whomever you wish.
So when we go out and do missionary work trying to make them understand that infanticide is wrong its bad, But when they come to us and demand us to concede to their demands it's okay? Again i'm in awe with the hypocrisy of the liberals.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7157

TheDarkRaven wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

That is so like Sparta. Survival of the fittest I guess.
You been watching 300? That's not strictly true...

EDIT: They were often adopted by people not of Sparta.
Research paper on ancient Greek actually... If a Spartan new born is sick or looks weak, it is either adopted by the Helots or thrown down the Mountain.
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Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7177|Salt Lake City

David.P wrote:

topal63 wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

To all the 'let them be' folks

If there was a 'tribe' (group) of people in your neighborhood who have it in their customs to kill white people as part of a ritual, and you just happen to be white, would you say 'let them be, its their culture'?
Bye-bye now - enjoy your trip (in fact take David P. with you).

No one is stopping you. Feel free to pursue your convictions. In fact I applaud them. Go ahead bye a plane ticket. Converse with the elders and then adopt whomever you wish.
So when we go out and do missionary work trying to make them understand that infanticide is wrong its bad, But when they come to us and demand us to concede to their demands it's okay? Again i'm in awe with the hypocrisy of the liberals.
When have they ever come looking for people to accept them.  They were never looking for anyone's permission or approval.  Yet again, you can't make an argument, so everything wrong in the world is the fault of liberals, when this isn't even about us or conservatives/liberals.
David.P
Banned
+649|6715

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

David.P wrote:

topal63 wrote:


Bye-bye now - enjoy your trip (in fact take David P. with you).

No one is stopping you. Feel free to pursue your convictions. In fact I applaud them. Go ahead bye a plane ticket. Converse with the elders and then adopt whomever you wish.
So when we go out and do missionary work trying to make them understand that infanticide is wrong its bad, But when they come to us and demand us to concede to their demands it's okay? Again i'm in awe with the hypocrisy of the liberals.
When have they ever come looking for people to accept them.  They were never looking for anyone's permission or approval.  Yet again, you can't make an argument, so everything wrong in the world is the fault of liberals, when this isn't even about us or conservatives/liberals.
When they were brought to trial for cannabilism  in the 1600's for killing and eating British explorers.(They also practiced infanticide) Actually the downfall of america is because of liberal asskissing of our enemies.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7069|space command ur anus
i saw a program on the history channel that might apply to this, the program was about agriculture and its impact on society.
the peoples that didn't have agriculture didnt get past the stone age way of living, simply because they didn't have the necessary surplus of food that the peoples that had live stock and other easy food sources had. that's why people in Europa and northe Africa had iron tolls and huge monuments.
and if a society that lives from hand to mouth, have to raise and take care of people that cant contribute to society then that will be a HUGE burden on that society.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6846|North Carolina

Gillenator wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/ea69e8b9d6bd6f5e

What do you think?
Are we right to interfere, or just let those tribes be who they are. It is part of their culture after all.
Who are we to interfere.

Discuss!
I hear that the government of Brazil essentially has death squads that covertly "dispose" of the massive numbers of homeless in places like Rio de Janeiro.  I don't have any sources to back that up, but it wouldn't surprise me.

As for the principle itself....  natural selection, perhaps?...
Madison B.
Member
+4|6552

Gillenator wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/ea69e8b9d6bd6f5e

What do you think?
Are we right to interfere, or just let those tribes be who they are. It is part of their culture after all.
Who are we to interfere.

Discuss!
I won't post my opinion but you have to think about it for a minute:

The families don't want the disabled babies.
The governments don't have the programs that are in the Western Countries for disabled babies. (and the western countries are too busy spending money attacking other countries rather than helping other countries)

No one is going to go overseas to adopt a disabled baby (Seriously... did any of the celebrities take a disabled child? No.. they took the cute ones)

So why would they want a life of pain.. a life of watching their offspring suffer..

Most of those children won't live to see the age of 5... because they don't have the proper ways of being cared for... within a few days after birth and breastfeeding a mother is drastically attached to a child (some get attached before they even give birth)

So if it was up to you.. you had a kid... you can either see him suffer and be in pain for 5 years whilst getting attached or you can put him out of his misery right than and there & tell the mother it was  a stillbirth... would you really not pick the latter? Think about it.

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