psH
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In this post, i will be making a about the carbine group of guns that appear in BF2.

Carbines are generally a smaller and less-lengthy version of rifles, they share the same ammunition as full boar rifles, but essentially have lower muzzle velocity. Such as the US rifle, the M4.

Wikipedia.com wrote:

A carbine is a firearm similar to, but generally shorter and less powerful than, a rifle or musket of a given period. There have been many carbines developed from rifles, being essentially shorter rifles firing the same ammunition, although usually at a lower velocity.
In BF2, there is a total of 5 carbines. Contrary to popular belief, the AK[47/101] family of rifles in BF2 are not carbines, even though the icon for carbines, is an AK47.

AK-74U wrote:

1. AK-74U
https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3309/rurrifak74uc99866jy6.jpg
Magazine Capacity    30
Extra magazines    5

Damage    29
Rate of Fire (Rounds per Minute)    600
Reload time    4.3
Draw Time    1.2
Fire Modes    Single / Auto
Min Deviation    0.25
Deviation Standing / Crouching / Prone    1.8/1.4/1
Deviation Mod when Zoomed    0.75
Deviation Added per Shot    0.25 (2.5)
Recoil    0.3 - 0.6
Recoil when Zoomed    0.75
Zoom magnification (fold)    1.67
Shots to Kill Non Armor    4
Shots to Kill Armor    5



The AK-74U, is the most powerul carbine (by damage) in BF2. It comes equipped with a red-dot scope, and shares a level of zoom which is the same as the QBZ-97 (1.67). However, it is more unaccurate than its counterpart, the M4, when standing or crouching. When using this weapon at close ranges (such as a head-on confrontation), fire on full automatic at the torso. When at longer ranges, fir on single-shot while prone. This weapon is shared by the MEC and the MEC SF, Spetsnaz, Rebels and Insurgents.

M4 wrote:

2. M4
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5493/usrifm4d4a774az6.jpg
Magazine Capacity    30
Extra magazines    5
Damage    25
Rate of Fire (Rounds per Minute)    600
Reload time    4.7
Draw Time    1.2
Fire Modes    Single / Auto
Min Deviation    0.2
Deviation Standing / Crouching / Prone    1.5/1.2/1
Deviation Mod when Zoomed    0.75
Deviation Added per Shot    0.2 (1.7)
Recoil    0.3 - 0.5
Recoil when Zoomed    0.75
Zoom magnification (fold)    1.43
Shots to Kill Non Armor    4
Shots to Kill Armor    6


The M4 carbine, is a shortened version of the M16 rifle. It is being used by the USA in various theaters of war in the Middle East. Unlike the M16, it has automatic capabilities. It also comes equipped with a red-dot scope, which has a lower zoom yield than the AK-74U, its Russian counterpart. In  BF2, the M4 is less powerful than the AK74U, but shares the same damage with the QBZ-97 (25 damage) and is more accurate. It is used only by the USMC in bf2, and is replaced by the SCAR-L for the Navy SEALS.

QBZ-97 wrote:

3. QBZ-97
https://img441.imageshack.us/img441/143/chriftype95dd1c9dsg0.jpg
Magazine Capacity    30
Extra magazines    5
Damage    25
Rate of Fire (Rounds per Minute)    600
Reload time    4.3
Draw Time    0.9
Fire Modes    Single / Auto
Min Deviation    0.2
Deviation Standing / Crouching / Prone    1.5/1.2/0.7
Deviation Mod when Zoomed    0.7
Deviation Added per Shot    0.2 (1.7)
Recoil    0.25 - 0.45
Recoil when Zoomed    0.75
Zoom magnification (fold)    1.67
Shots to Kill Non Armor    4
Shots to Kill Armor    6


The QBZ-97 is a Chinese-built export version of the QBZ-95, made by the PLA in 1997. They share the same build, but uses NATO ammunition. In bf2, the QBZ-97 is the most accurate of the basic carbines, even more so than the G36C 1st tier unlock. Funnily enough, it has the same zoom level as the AK-74U, but it doesn't use a scope, instead it uses iron-sights. This carbine is used solely and only by the Chinese forces in BF2.

G36C wrote:

4. 1st tier unlock: G36C
https://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7227/usrifg36ce5a629xn9.jpg
Magazine Capacity    30
Extra magazines    5
Damage    25
Rate of Fire (Rounds per Minute)    600
Reload time    4.1
Draw Time    1.2
Fire Modes    Single / Auto
Min Deviation    0.2
Deviation Standing / Crouching / Prone    1.5/1.2/1
Deviation Mod when Zoomed    0.75
Deviation Added per Shot    0.2 (2)
Recoil    0.2 - 0.4
Recoil when Zoomed    0.5
Zoom magnification (fold)    1.43
Shots to Kill Non Armor    4
Shots to Kill Armor    6


The German-made Heckler & Koch G36C is the commando version of the G36 rifle. In BF2, the G36C is the 1st-tier unlock of the Special-Ops kit. Personally, i use the G36C over all weapons in the SpecOps kit. It is accurate, powerful, and with short bursts with quickly kill anybody that is not prepared. This gun is very good over long ranges, and can even be used for very short-range sniping (perfect for shooting people off roofs and buildings) on maps such as Warlord. This carbine is best used when shot in small burts when prone. A small burst to the head will instantly kill any enemy. Becouse it is an unlock, it can be used by any army in the game.

Tip wrote:

When taking headshots, if you have an adjustable sensitivity mouse (such as a G5) set it to 400 DPI for less overshooting.

SCAR-L wrote:

5. 2nd-tier unlock: SCAR-L
https://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8959/usriffnscarleed069nt4.jpg
Magazine Capacity    30
Extra magazines    5
Damage    27
Rate of Fire (Rounds per Minute)    600
Reload time    4
Draw Time    1.2
Fire Modes    Single / Auto
Min Deviation    0.22
Deviation Standing / Crouching / Prone    1.5/1.2/1.1
Deviation Mod when Zoomed    0.75
Deviation Added per Shot    0.22 (1.6)
Recoil    0.3 - 0.5
Recoil when Zoomed    0.75
Zoom magnification (fold)    1.43
Shots to Kill Non Armor    4
Shots to Kill Armor    6


The SCAR (Special forces Combat Assault Rifle) is a Belgian-made Assault rifle which is in use by US SOCOM in 2 forms, the SCAR-L (for light rounds) and the SCAR-H (for higher calibre rounds). In bf2, it is the 2nd-tier unlock of the Spec-Ops kit. It comes equipped with a red-dot scope, perfect for special-forces night-fights. This weapon is scarcely used in bf2, as much more players prefer the G36C.

Last edited by Ashlite (2007-08-04 04:29:06)

Lieutenant_Jensen
Your cops are corrupt.
+200|6654|fåking denmark
The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..

Last edited by Lieutenant_Jensen (2007-08-04 04:40:51)

psH
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+217|6646|Sydney

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
WITHIN BF2..its not.

And the SCAR-L is considered a carbine. Quite a few arms mistakes are present in BF2.

Last edited by Ashlite (2007-08-04 04:50:57)

TheGiantSE
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+14|6734|Sweden
Don't really play Spec-Op because I think it's a pretty worthless kit.
But when I do I actually like all the standard weapons and the G36E that is as easy to use as any G36 weapon.
~FuzZz~
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Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
Scar L is a carbine, you must be thinking of the Scar H,
G36C Is a carbine, i used it and only it today to try and get my spec-ops ratio up and i ended up with a heap more carbine kills when i checked.
psH
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+217|6646|Sydney

TheGiantSE wrote:

Don't really play Spec-Op because I think it's a pretty worthless kit.
But when I do I actually like all the standard weapons and the G36E that is as easy to use as any G36 weapon.
Its not worthless, but it is in the hands of somebody who doesn't use C4.
Lieutenant_Jensen
Your cops are corrupt.
+200|6654|fåking denmark

Ashlite wrote:

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
WITHIN BF2..its not.

And the SCAR-L is considered a carbine. Quite a few arms mistakes are present in BF2.
I am thinking IRL ..
TimmmmaaaaH
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+725|6702|Brisbane, Australia

I use either SCAR-L or M4, they are win.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png
Samtheman53.0000012
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Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
all spec ops weapons are carbines numpty
Fenris_GreyClaw
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+826|6782|Adelaide, South Australia

Samtheman53.0000012 wrote:

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
all spec ops weapons are carbines numpty
Except the G36k for the SAS
Samtheman53.0000012
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Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Samtheman53.0000012 wrote:

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

The G36C isn't a carbine .. It's a assault rifle ..

EDIT: And so are the SCAR as far as I remember ..
all spec ops weapons are carbines numpty
Except the G36k for the SAS
ye
Ey3
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M4 rules.......
OmniDeath
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+726|6907

So... aside from quote the wiki... what did you do?
ReDevilJR
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+106|6614

OmniDeath wrote:

So... aside from quote the wiki... what did you do?
Longbow
Member
+163|6909|Odessa, Ukraine
G36K > QBZ-97 > G36C > M4 > AKS-74U > SCAR-L

by the way
AKS-74U and QBZ-97 aren't 'carbines' IRL . They are submachine guns that utilize the same ammunition\magazines as standart issue assault rifles , but are used in the PDW role .
all spec ops weapons are carbines numpty
In BF2 - yes . IRL - no .
Except the G36k for the SAS
G36K - karabine or kurtz(shortened in german) - is a carbine IRL but in BF2 stats it sometimes tracks as an assault rifle and sometimes as a carbine ( personal experience , sometimes after using G36K on Warlord I have AR KDR increased , sometimes carbine )
psH
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OmniDeath wrote:

So... aside from quote the wiki... what did you do?
Yep well you got me there. Guess i was bored.
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6586|Graz, Austria
What about the HK53A3?
Is that one considered a carbine in BF2?

It's an assault carbine IRL.
Djbrown
Member
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OmniDeath wrote:

So... aside from quote the wiki... what did you do?
lol, beat me to it
Balok77
Member
+28|6411
yeah all i can see is  that u copied the Bf2 wiki section, word for word...not even a tip??? lol
Longbow
Member
+163|6909|Odessa, Ukraine

globefish23 wrote:

What about the HK53A3?
Is that one considered a carbine in BF2?

It's an assault carbine IRL.
It is used as SMG in german army . Seriously , it used as an MP5 , but fires .223 to make logistics easier
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6460|Winland

Most useless thread ever. Why not just post a link to the Wiki? Jeez!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Ryan
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OmniDeath wrote:

So... aside from quote the wiki... what did you do?
Exactly.

How hard was it to nab that from the wiki?

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