sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Did you get banned?  I didn't know that.  What did you do?
I have been banned a few times.  I meant my other accounts get perma banned, unlike some people.
Unlike who?  We want names.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7202

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Did you get banned?  I didn't know that.  What did you do?
I have been banned a few times.  I meant my other accounts get perma banned, unlike some people.
Unlike who?  We want names.
no...get back on topic.
agent146
Member
+127|6827|Jesus Land aka Canada
no need to wrong about pakistan....let the indians take care of it.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7198|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


I have been banned a few times.  I meant my other accounts get perma banned, unlike some people.
Unlike who?  We want names.
no...get back on topic.
Ok, Muslims.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7202

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, Muslims.
Well if you step back for a second and think about it, my comment was not that far from the truth.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7198|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, Muslims.
Well if you step back for a second and think about it, my comment was not that far from the truth.
You mean Iran is capable of using nukes against Israel and Pakistan isn't?
usmarine
Banned
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, Muslims.
Well if you step back for a second and think about it, my comment was not that far from the truth.
You mean Iran is capable of using nukes against Israel and Pakistan isn't?
Iran basically threatened to didn't they?  Never heard that from the Paks.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7198|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Well if you step back for a second and think about it, my comment was not that far from the truth.
You mean Iran is capable of using nukes against Israel and Pakistan isn't?
Iran basically threatened to didn't they?  Never heard that from the Paks.
True, but how can they threaten to do that without any nukes?  Pakistan has nukes and if you ask me Musharraf doesn't seem to be in a comfortable position right now.  The country is infested by the Taliban.  What if those fuckers take the control there?
ATG
Banned
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Then we nuke them.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6845|North Carolina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Well if you step back for a second and think about it, my comment was not that far from the truth.
You mean Iran is capable of using nukes against Israel and Pakistan isn't?
Iran basically threatened to didn't they?  Never heard that from the Paks.
The most that Ahmadinejad has said about Israel is that he believes the state of Israel needs to be removed.  He didn't specifically say that all the Israelis should die or that he wants to nuke them.

Besides, if we're going to jump on his case for making threats against Israel, then hell, we'd have to badger almost every Arab leader for doing the same.

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-08-04 17:19:00)

jsnipy
...
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How is the majority of the obsessed measured?

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-08-04 17:19:58)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7198|Argentina

ATG wrote:

Then we nuke them.
Seriously, everybody is concerned about Iran having nuclear power not even nukes, but Pakistan is the biggest threat.  They have nukes and Sunni extremists.  That sounds like a bad combination.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7198|Argentina

jsnipy wrote:

How is the majority of the obsessed measured?
Search for topics about Iran and Pakistan.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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The answer to the OP question is Pakistan "appears" to be making an attempt to cooperate with the world. This is not to say the perception is justified, but rather to explain the logic behind measuring the two hostilities. The Iranian threat is not limited to the US. The EU and UN have taken steps to express their concern as well. In all honesty it would be insane to engage any other nation until we finish securing southern Afghanistan (if at all). Of course the Brits are starting to turn the tide in that region . British Make Initial Gains Against Taliban
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6845|North Carolina
Good to know, but the sooner we leave Iraq, the better.  We're probably going to need our full manpower to focus on Pakistan soon.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7041|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Good to know, but the sooner we leave Iraq, the better.  We're probably going to need our full manpower to focus on Pakistan soon.
Honestly, I'd rather focus our man power towards our borders. Bouncing from nation to nation solving their regional conflicts does little to protect me when we have a porous border at home. We shouldn't be complaining about the neighborhood we live in while refusing to lock our doors.
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Madison B.
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sergeriver wrote:

Madison B. wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I mean Pakistan has real nukes and tbh Musharraf doesn't seem in control of the country.  I don't say Obama is right, but why is everyone so obsessed with invading Iran and a few people care about Pakistan.  I think Pakistan is the worst threat in the Middle East.  If Musharraf is removed the Taliban will have the nukes.  That is pretty dangerous if you ask me.
Pakistan is as far from a threat as Bush is from pretzels.

For starters its predominantly Sunni; the President wouldn't do ANYTHING whatsoever do undermine his power and ties (even as much as threaten an attack anywhere). The people of Pakistan aren't as.... I can't find a nice word to use without insulting... but we don't have to worry about national Pakistanis.

Iran on the other hand is showing drastic signs of improvement in many areas of the sciences. They have the capabilities and enough secrecy to build.. plot.. attack. Here's the big whiff: Iran is predominantly Shia/Shi'ite. If they were to attack, not only will they attack the west, they'll also attack Sunni states (holy or unholy) such as Saudi Arabia & all the middle east. Another thing with them is that they are being slick with the way they maneuver and gain power elsewhere... Iraq death squads ring a bell? The armament of Shi'ites in Iraq ring a bell?
Have you heard of the Taliban?
Taliban government was in Afghanistan (not Pakistan)
Madison B.
Member
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


You mean Iran is capable of using nukes against Israel and Pakistan isn't?
Iran basically threatened to didn't they?  Never heard that from the Paks.
True, but how can they threaten to do that without any nukes?  Pakistan has nukes and if you ask me Musharraf doesn't seem to be in a comfortable position right now.  The country is infested by the Taliban.  What if those fuckers take the control there?
What if.. What if.. What if...

If we operate on all the "what ifs" we'll be too busy to notice REAL world issues...

"What if bin laden is in Afghan"
"What if Saddam has WMDs"
"What if we arm the Shites in a pre-dom Sunni Area"
What if... what if...

what if we just take CARE of the things that are CERTAIN and LOGICAL..

Once our little puppy Musharraf is overthrown THEN we should worry about the threat Pakistan poses.. Until then they aren't a threat in any way shape or form.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6845|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Good to know, but the sooner we leave Iraq, the better.  We're probably going to need our full manpower to focus on Pakistan soon.
Honestly, I'd rather focus our man power towards our borders. Bouncing from nation to nation solving their regional conflicts does little to protect me when we have a porous border at home. We shouldn't be complaining about the neighborhood we live in while refusing to lock our doors.
Good point...  but here's a good question...  Have any of the main presidential candidates expressed this sentiment?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Good to know, but the sooner we leave Iraq, the better.  We're probably going to need our full manpower to focus on Pakistan soon.
Honestly, I'd rather focus our man power towards our borders. Bouncing from nation to nation solving their regional conflicts does little to protect me when we have a porous border at home. We shouldn't be complaining about the neighborhood we live in while refusing to lock our doors.
Good point...  but here's a good question...  Have any of the main presidential candidates expressed this sentiment?
Nope, and I think you know how I feel about that. If your pockets are deep enough you can buy out both parties. Discouraging to say the least.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6845|North Carolina
I swear I'll be in Canada before it's all said and done.  This Unity party is a nice idea, but I really don't see it changing things....
Madison B.
Member
+4|6551

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Honestly, I'd rather focus our man power towards our borders. Bouncing from nation to nation solving their regional conflicts does little to protect me when we have a porous border at home. We shouldn't be complaining about the neighborhood we live in while refusing to lock our doors.
Good point...  but here's a good question...  Have any of the main presidential candidates expressed this sentiment?
Nope, and I think you know how I feel about that. If your pockets are deep enough you can buy out both parties. Discouraging to say the least.
Didn't "Republican" candidate Ron Paul address this on the *oh so popular* Colbert Report?

That guy seems to care about nothing.. as a matter of fact he has the most ambigious arguments.. I'd give him my vote if I wasn't scared shitless of a republican from texas in office for another 4 years.. He's too loose. (wow.. and I'm a republican..)
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6845|North Carolina

Madison B. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Good point...  but here's a good question...  Have any of the main presidential candidates expressed this sentiment?
Nope, and I think you know how I feel about that. If your pockets are deep enough you can buy out both parties. Discouraging to say the least.
Didn't "Republican" candidate Ron Paul address this on the *oh so popular* Colbert Report?

That guy seems to care about nothing.. as a matter of fact he has the most ambigious arguments.. I'd give him my vote if I wasn't scared shitless of a republican from texas in office for another 4 years.. He's too loose. (wow.. and I'm a republican..)
I'd sooner vote for Ron Paul over any other Republican.  I may disagree with some of his economic policies, but the man's consistent and isn't actually corrupt unlike 99% of politicians.

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-08-04 18:22:56)

Madison B.
Member
+4|6551

Turquoise wrote:

Madison B. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Nope, and I think you know how I feel about that. If your pockets are deep enough you can buy out both parties. Discouraging to say the least.
Didn't "Republican" candidate Ron Paul address this on the *oh so popular* Colbert Report?

That guy seems to care about nothing.. as a matter of fact he has the most ambigious arguments.. I'd give him my vote if I wasn't scared shitless of a republican from texas in office for another 4 years.. He's too loose. (wow.. and I'm a republican..)
I'd sooner vote for Ron Paul over any other Republican.  I may disagree with some of his economic policies, but the man's consistent and isn't actually corrupt unlike 99% of politicians.
Yes but the man wants to get rid of EVERYTHING.... Federal Reserve? For crying out loud... I don't think that man took an economics class.. scratch that a HISTORY class.. Maybe he doesn't know why we have the federal reserve..

He's consistant.. yes.. but he's consistant with empty promises.. I love it how some politicians state "I want to do this.. I want to do that.." but they don't throw in the part that they actually NEED congress to agree with them.. And seriously.. if he gets rid of the federal reserve (which won't happen thanks to the fact that everyone wants to protect their $$$ in banks.) and if he gets rid of the Estate Tax & all the other stuff.. where on earth does he think he's going to get paid from?! Sure ain't my pocket since he's gonna "lower taxes".. I'm thinking that Ron Paul has bigger fish in the sea... Like.. "get rid of the estate tax.. and INSTEAD.. we'll make a Property of the Deceased Tax" .. He seems to be saying all this just to get the popular vote... then he can spend the next 3 years doing nothing.. & dude what kind of politician pays to go on The Colbert Report to score some votes?? I really smell something going on.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7041|132 and Bush

I swear if we start talking about real estate/property taxes and the federal reserve I start swinging the ban hammer..lol. J/k of course. I just took an exam Thursday on them (Explains my absence the last couple weeks if anyone was wondering).
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