Source: Monday's Gregalogue: Why Good News Is Bad NewsAs we've mentioned before, General David Petraeus is about to present a report on the troop surge in Iraq . While many Democrats were expecting mixed results, there are hints that the report might be positive. And this is good news right? I mean, if the war is going well, that's good for America - That should be good news. On top of that, consumer confidence is the highest it's been since before 9/11, we've got a strong job market, and I've lost five pounds. That's right, five pounds. And that's just in my face.
So these are good times. Maybe even great times. But how come some people aren't happy?
They aren't happy because they are the left, who rely solely on bad news to bolster their own world view. These are people, who not-so-secretly want troops deaths higher, because that makes them appear right. So when there's good news for us - it's bad news for them.They are not happy because the New York Times and The View tell them they are not happy. After all, who better to set the tone for your day than a newspaper whose circulation is dropping like a cartoon safe?
I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it. For them to do well, America has to crumble. They would rather win an election than a war, and if tragedy helps, so be it. You've got to wonder about a group of people whose greatest ally is in a Pakistani cave eating camel fat and playing "army" with his Jihad-Joes.
History will judge us not on how badly we felt during the war, but how well the war fared. If we win it, that's good news, and that's all that matters. History is funny that way. Who won matters - even if it doesn't to the Berkeley professors who tend to write the history.
It's like competing for a hot girl at a bar. Nobody remembers later feeling guilty about telling her you read to orphans. What you remember is how pissed your friend was when you left with her, and that little thing she learned on her trip to Brazil.
It's called "winning." Trust me, it's better than losing. Especially with the stakes involved here.
So when there's good news, look around you. The people who aren't happy - are your enemies. Tell them to get over it. Even America should have a good day once in awhile. They'll recover. Then feel free to stab them with a plastic fork.
AND THAT'S MY GUT FEELING.
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Dont you mean Whining?Reciprocity wrote:
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Such insight.Reciprocity wrote:
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I have absolutely no doubt as to the proficiency with which our military forces are able to dispense pain. Even as an occupying force our military is performing quite well. but as has been discussed in an innumerable quantity of threads, the military cannot win this conflict. The Iraqi people, through their votes and actions, are the only ones who can produce victory, if victory is defined as a stable government, providing safety and services to all citizens, regardless of race, tribe, or whatever.
And if you expect me to respond seriously in a thread, don't quote fucking retarded horse shit like this:
And if you expect me to respond seriously in a thread, don't quote fucking retarded horse shit like this:
These are people, who not-so-secretly want troops deaths higher, because that makes them appear right.
'Did you know that there are more nerve endings in your gut than there are in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you will say "I did and that's not true" but that's because you looked it up in a book. Next time look it up in your gut.'Harmor wrote:
Source: Monday's Gregalogue: Why Good News Is Bad NewsAs we've mentioned before, General David Petraeus is about to present a report on the troop surge in Iraq . While many Democrats were expecting mixed results, there are hints that the report might be positive. And this is good news right? I mean, if the war is going well, that's good for America - That should be good news. On top of that, consumer confidence is the highest it's been since before 9/11, we've got a strong job market, and I've lost five pounds. That's right, five pounds. And that's just in my face.
So these are good times. Maybe even great times. But how come some people aren't happy?
They aren't happy because they are the left, who rely solely on bad news to bolster their own world view. These are people, who not-so-secretly want troops deaths higher, because that makes them appear right. So when there's good news for us - it's bad news for them.They are not happy because the New York Times and The View tell them they are not happy. After all, who better to set the tone for your day than a newspaper whose circulation is dropping like a cartoon safe?
I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it. For them to do well, America has to crumble. They would rather win an election than a war, and if tragedy helps, so be it. You've got to wonder about a group of people whose greatest ally is in a Pakistani cave eating camel fat and playing "army" with his Jihad-Joes.
History will judge us not on how badly we felt during the war, but how well the war fared. If we win it, that's good news, and that's all that matters. History is funny that way. Who won matters - even if it doesn't to the Berkeley professors who tend to write the history.
It's like competing for a hot girl at a bar. Nobody remembers later feeling guilty about telling her you read to orphans. What you remember is how pissed your friend was when you left with her, and that little thing she learned on her trip to Brazil.
It's called "winning." Trust me, it's better than losing. Especially with the stakes involved here.
So when there's good news, look around you. The people who aren't happy - are your enemies. Tell them to get over it. Even America should have a good day once in awhile. They'll recover. Then feel free to stab them with a plastic fork.
AND THAT'S MY GUT FEELING.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-08-08 00:13:52)
Of course Patreus' report will come back great, Cheney and Rove already wrote it months ago.
Patreus will go back and sign off on it, maybe even read it in a public forum in the humiliating tradition of Colin Powell, then have a fit of conscious and get himself replaced like all the generals before him. Depending on his ideology, he may then get political in a progressive way (Clark, Batiste) or slink off to become a paid corporate hack (Powell). My guess is that the next replacement will be some superfundie Air Force tard.
Patreus will go back and sign off on it, maybe even read it in a public forum in the humiliating tradition of Colin Powell, then have a fit of conscious and get himself replaced like all the generals before him. Depending on his ideology, he may then get political in a progressive way (Clark, Batiste) or slink off to become a paid corporate hack (Powell). My guess is that the next replacement will be some superfundie Air Force tard.
Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2007-08-08 01:15:21)
Patreus may have a conflict of interest. He is supposed to give a report on how well we are doing in Iraq however if his report says Iraq is as much of a shit-hole as ever he will lose his job. The Cheney Administration will not hesitate to blame it all on him if their tactics are shown to not be working.
Harmor really needs to stop reading those tripe neo-con blogs. I have never read a blog in my life.
'I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it.'
That line is simply hilarious. It's Hitleresque - ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE DIRECTION I BELIEVE THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE GOING IN IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENEMY. If Harmor really subscribes to those kind of views then America really is dead. Idiots like that blogger are bordering on the delusional psychotic.
'I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it.'
That line is simply hilarious. It's Hitleresque - ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE DIRECTION I BELIEVE THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE GOING IN IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENEMY. If Harmor really subscribes to those kind of views then America really is dead. Idiots like that blogger are bordering on the delusional psychotic.
Heil neocon?CameronPoe wrote:
Harmor really needs to stop reading those tripe neo-con blogs. I have never read a blog in my life.
'I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it.'
That line is simply hilarious. It's Hitleresque - ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE DIRECTION I BELIEVE THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE GOING IN IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENEMY. If Harmor really subscribes to those kind of views then America really is dead. Idiots like that blogger are bordering on the delusional psychotic.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
yeah, Harmor, you should try reading some George Orwell, great non-fiction writer.CameronPoe wrote:
Harmor really needs to stop reading those tripe neo-con blogs. I have never read a blog in my life.
'I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it.'
That line is simply hilarious. It's Hitleresque - ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE DIRECTION I BELIEVE THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE GOING IN IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENEMY. If Harmor really subscribes to those kind of views then America really is dead. Idiots like that blogger are bordering on the delusional psychotic.
PS Communist countries are the kinds of countries that only report good news, bad news being confined to the outside world that they seek to portray as evil and in disarray. Try reading Granma, the Cuban daily if you're able to read Spanish or watching CCTV9, the Chinese english language channel. One of the jobs of the media should be to hound politicians and hold them to account for their actions. The only countries that this doesn't happen in are either communist or are dictatorships.
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Of course good news is bad for the left. I have believed this forever. They will never admit it of course, but it is obvious. Whenever something bad happens in Iraq to our troops or by our troops, the left is there to exploit it to their gains loud and clear. When there is good news out of Iraq, you hear not a word mentioned by them. No congratulations for a job well done and certainly no appreciation.
I have always maintained a belief that the left harbors a deep and secret desire for another terror attack in the US so they can jump on the soap box condemning Bush and all of his initiatives that were supposed to protect us, as a colossal failure. Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
I have always maintained a belief that the left harbors a deep and secret desire for another terror attack in the US so they can jump on the soap box condemning Bush and all of his initiatives that were supposed to protect us, as a colossal failure. Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
If someone even mentions the word 'left' or any other word with a similar connotation, your blood pressure must spike through the roof. Seriously, it's probably not healthy.lowing wrote:
Of course good news is bad for the left. I have believed this forever. They will never admit it of course, but it is obvious. Whenever something bad happens in Iraq to our troops or by our troops, the left is there to exploit it to their gains loud and clear. When there is good news out of Iraq, you hear not a word mentioned by them. No congratulations for a job well done and certainly no appreciation.
I have always maintained a belief that the left harbors a deep and secret desire for another terror attack in the US so they can jump on the soap box condemning Bush and all of his initiatives that were supposed to protect us, as a colossal failure. Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
Its the difference between left and right.Skruples wrote:
If someone even mentions the word 'left' or any other word with a similar connotation, your blood pressure must spike through the roof. Seriously, it's probably not healthy.lowing wrote:
Of course good news is bad for the left. I have believed this forever. They will never admit it of course, but it is obvious. Whenever something bad happens in Iraq to our troops or by our troops, the left is there to exploit it to their gains loud and clear. When there is good news out of Iraq, you hear not a word mentioned by them. No congratulations for a job well done and certainly no appreciation.
I have always maintained a belief that the left harbors a deep and secret desire for another terror attack in the US so they can jump on the soap box condemning Bush and all of his initiatives that were supposed to protect us, as a colossal failure. Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
The left has a plethora of issues, and an equal variety of answers. You'll never find 2 lefties that completely agree with each other on the specifics of any topic. The problems can be traced to corporations, they can be traced to religious agendas, they can be traced to a lack of diplomacy or understanding, they can be traced even to lack of well-needed military intervention, they can even be traced to the nasty motives of people in power no matter who they are.
The far right believes in lock-step. The world is in comic book colors, things are good or evil. Facts that don't fit the fiction are always a lie. Last but not least, they have one enemy - libruls!
What is a librul? At any given time it could be a coward, or a terrorist, baby killer, war monger, liar, cheater, communist dictator, hippocrit, fascist dictator, well, anything. I've seen FoxNews even paint a big fat (D) next to a republican politicians name and report him as "liberal" whenever he says something they disagree with (Specter is such a bad boy!).
Just throw another lump of shit at the effigy liberal strawman and hope it sticks.
And all "libruls" are alike, because authoritarian thinking cannot fathom that people can be shades of gray. There are always "two sides to every issue" ("We report BOTH sides of the issues!"), one is right, and one is wrong. There can't be three sides, there can't be 10, there can't be 100. But whatever the problem identified, the source is ALWAYS rooted with "libruls". Bill Clinton, liberal. Terrorists appeasers, liberals. Constitution lovers, liberals. Abortion lovers, liberals. Communists, liberals. Hitler, liberal. Founding fathers, liberals. Illegal immigrants, liberals. Criminals, liberals. The real Jesus, liberal. Republican Jesus, NOT a liberal. I admit, the last two are true.
Keep that in mind next time you're having a conversation with a 26%er that's gone off the deep end in a foaming spew of talking points. He can't help himself...and you're a LIBRUL for pointing it out.
Did you miss the congressional and senate elections? I think the results showed AMerica seeks a different path, the only impediment being President Failure.lowing wrote:
Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
And the chickenshit Democratic Congressman and Senators that lack the backbone to stand up to Mr. 26%.CameronPoe wrote:
Did you miss the congressional and senate elections? I think the results showed AMerica seeks a different path, the only impediment being President Failure.lowing wrote:
Then they can come out with THEIR plan and THEIR leaders to shine a light toward the liberal solution, for all our woes. But damn it!!......It just hasn't happened yet..
Take the recent FISA Destruction bill, for example. The president and the rubberstampers for the last 6 years have given the "unitary executive" awesome amounts of power. The Democrats smell it and are most likely thinking of their own creative uses for it when they take the presidency in '08. What the American people voted for was restoration of this power to the proper places and the end of a mindless military adventures resulting from abuse of power. We still haven't seen it.
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Heil neocon?
So if I said liberal there, you people would shit your pants and their would be like four fucking angry responses within like two minutes of each other. But this is acceptable?
Roger that.
Liberals Fail.
Liberalism is a disease.
It wouldn't be an AF general. The only Service it could be is either Army or Marine Corps. It's call preponderance of forces and the means to command and control them. Since the vast majority of forces in MNF-I (that would be Petraeus' command) are Army and Marine Corps, the CG of MNF-I will be either Army or Marine. Period.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
My guess is that the next replacement will be some superfundie Air Force tard.
On topic, however, blogs are opinion pieces, by definition. As such, they hold as much weight as any other opinion pieces...say those in the Washington Post. Opinion pieces regarding this war are generally (based on my observation) based on selected facts, not the entire picture. They take a given good/bad event and run with that to the exclusion of the overall context in which the event happened...in order to support their own pre-disposed view of things.
That would be why I avoid news and op-ed pieces on the war in general and Iraq in particular. I just read the SIGACTS and intel reports so I know what's really going on and by doing so, keep my blood pressure and anger at the biased media (both left and right) at manageable levels. I realize not everyone has that option, but it works for me.
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“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
You're assuming the scope of the entire theatre will be restricted to Iraq in the near future, I'm not so sure.FEOS wrote:
It wouldn't be an AF general. The only Service it could be is either Army or Marine Corps. It's call preponderance of forces and the means to command and control them. Since the vast majority of forces in MNF-I (that would be Petraeus' command) are Army and Marine Corps, the CG of MNF-I will be either Army or Marine. Period.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
My guess is that the next replacement will be some superfundie Air Force tard.
On topic, however, blogs are opinion pieces, by definition. As such, they hold as much weight as any other opinion pieces...say those in the Washington Post. Opinion pieces regarding this war are generally (based on my observation) based on selected facts, not the entire picture. They take a given good/bad event and run with that to the exclusion of the overall context in which the event happened...in order to support their own pre-disposed view of things.
That would be why I avoid news and op-ed pieces on the war in general and Iraq in particular. I just read the SIGACTS and intel reports so I know what's really going on and by doing so, keep my blood pressure and anger at the biased media (both left and right) at manageable levels. I realize not everyone has that option, but it works for me.
98G/AD?
Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2007-08-08 11:20:25)
Should I start posting all the opinion pieces I agree with? At least comment on it. Seriously, If I wanted to read the "Gregalogue", I would go to the website.
PS - Greg is a delusional person. Keep on truckin' with the left vs right deal buddy (two thumbs up!).
PS - Greg is a delusional person. Keep on truckin' with the left vs right deal buddy (two thumbs up!).
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Nah, we'd just look up from our highbrow martinis and try to ignore it, like you would give to some five-year-old kid interrupting a cocktail party:usmarine2005 wrote:
^^^^^^^Spark wrote:
Heil neocon?
So if I said liberal there, you people would shit your pants and their would be like four fucking angry responses within like two minutes of each other. But this is acceptable?
Roger that.
Liberals Fail.
Liberalism is a disease.
"Hey look, its my FROGGY!"
The adults would groan, someone would gently suggest you take it back to the pond.
"They don't likes my FROGGY..."
And like an impetulant brat, the little neo-con kid would squish it like a bug. The adults would be mortified, the offending parent would try to scuttle off with their kid.
And everyone else would go on sipping martinis until the place runs dry.
Someone else kept trying out the "liberal fascist brownshirts" saying. I saw him try it two or three times here until one of the adults gently corrected him, was it lowing or DavidP, or someone else?
That was that Comrade dude....and people jumped on him for it. Hence my point.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Someone else kept trying out the "liberal fascist brownshirts" saying. I saw him try it two or three times here until one of the adults gently corrected him, was it lowing or DavidP, or someone else?
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That was that Comrade dude....and people jumped on him for it. Hence my point.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Someone else kept trying out the "liberal fascist brownshirts" saying. I saw him try it two or three times here until one of the adults gently corrected him, was it lowing or DavidP, or someone else?
tis Ikar.....
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Switch the names and political ideologies around. I don’t have time.CameronPoe wrote:
Harmor really needs to stop reading those tripe neo-con blogs. I have never read a blog in my life.
'I call these people patriotic terrorists - folks who say they love the country, even though they root against it.'
That line is simply hilarious. It's Hitleresque - ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE DIRECTION I BELIEVE THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE GOING IN IS UNPATRIOTIC AND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ENEMY. If Harmor really subscribes to those kind of views then America really is dead. Idiots like that blogger are bordering on the delusional psychotic.
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