Lol the most interesting thing, death penalty

2007-11-26 17:32:05

#1

toutinette: Member; +2|6698|Canada

VS OR AGAINST?
REALLY

If no death penalty, when people come out, they go rampage but if there is death penalty, it woud be carnage!
discuss:

2007-11-26 17:41:18

#2

.:ronin:.|Patton: Respekct dad i love u always; +946|7247|Marathon, Florida Keys

why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.

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2007-11-26 17:43:31

#3

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6843|North Carolina

Um... I'm guessing English is his second language....

Anyway, like most things, it's conditional. Sometimes, the death penalty is appropriate. The main problem with it is that it is ridiculously expensive.

2007-11-26 17:54:33

#4

Cougar: Banned; +1,962|7202|Dallas

toutinette wrote:
VS OR AGAINST?
REALLY

If no death penalty, when people come out, they go rampage but if there is death penalty, it woud be carnage!
discuss:

i THINK IT WUD BE GOODER IF THEY JUST SENT EVRYONE INTIO THE OCEANS AND MADE MAKE THEM DROWNED,, INSTEAD OF HAVEING THEM INSIDE TEH PRISONS WERE THEY JUST EAT UP THE TAXPAYERES MONEYS AND EAT THERE FOOD, lol, THEY SHOULD JUST PUT THE BAD GUYS IN THE OCEANS AND THEN LET THEM DROWND,,!!!!!!

imho

2007-11-26 17:56:14

#5

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7109|UK

fire em into space.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2007-11-26 18:27:30

#6

Dragonclaw: Member; +186|6743|Florida

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:
why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.

2007-11-26 18:29:23

#7

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6591|what

I'd rather see the bastards spend the rest of their pointless miserable lives in prison, getting raped in the showers and have the gaurds beat them frequently.

A bullet is too good for them.

2007-11-26 18:30:23

#8

Hurricane: Banned; +1,153|7068|Washington, DC

TheAussieReaper wrote:
I'd rather see the bastards spend the rest of their pointless miserable lives in prison, getting raped in the showers and have the gaurds beat them frequently.

A bullet is too good for them.

waste of money

2007-11-26 18:42:22

#9

Cleft: Member; +2|6575|Pacific Northwest

Someone did a presentation about this in speech class last year. If i recall it is more expensive to execute somebody than to jail them for life on average.

2007-11-26 18:53:47

#10

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|7128|Tampa Bay Florida

Cleft wrote:
Someone did a presentation about this in speech class last year. If i recall it is more expensive to execute somebody than to jail them for life on average.

Yes, true.

My dad represents death penalty inmates in Florida. You would not believe the amount of shit that people don't know about the issue that would make them staunchly against the death penalty.

2007-11-26 19:46:49

#11

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7218|Great Brown North

Spearhead wrote:
Cleft wrote:
Someone did a presentation about this in speech class last year. If i recall it is more expensive to execute somebody than to jail them for life on average.
Yes, true.

My dad represents death penalty inmates in Florida. You would not believe the amount of shit that people don't know about the issue that would make them staunchly against the death penalty.

examples? im interested

2007-11-26 20:10:29

#12

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|7152|US

The death penalty is too expensive in the US. Let 'em rot.

2007-11-26 20:14:13

#13

Kneegra: Don't rock no blings but my baseball cap; +21|6866|IN

why do the needles have to be sterilized? they're gonna die anyway...

2007-11-26 20:19:35

#14

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6883|The Land of Scott Walker

^^ He has a point there.

2007-11-26 21:22:13

#15

Drakef: Cheeseburger Logicist; +117|6800|Vancouver

I am morally against the death penalty.

2007-11-26 21:36:13

#16

Jibbles: Rifle Expert; +56|7067|Mexifornia, USA

Here, they're debating the death penalty because they don't know if the convicted felon feels pain when he is put to death via lethal injection. Since he has been sentenced to the death penalty already, and probably committed some horrendous crime, I'm no longer concerned with his well being or comfort. What difference does it make if he "feels" OK when he dies? He's fuckin' dead! He no longer has the ability to care or protest, and if people are so concerned and not sure if they feel pain, well then by all means give it a try! The last thing we need to pay for is to try and "rehabilitate" some disgusting form of human life. He fucked up big time. Too fucking bad. It only encourages capital crimes to be committed, since these horrible criminals are treated as the victims, as soon as an attorney mentions "troubled childhood", sufficient punishment goes right out the door. I love our legal system...

BTW, Utah is the only state that has a firing squad as an option of death. There's a specific reason as to why. Karma for first person to correctly answer..

2007-11-26 21:41:39

#17

Roger Lesboules: Ah ben tabarnak!; +316|7015|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:
why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.

This man, speaks the words of wisdom!

2007-11-26 21:56:52

#18

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,992|7070|949

Roger Lesboules wrote:
.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:
why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.
This man, speaks the words of wisdom!

Because sometimes people that are looking at the death penalty for murder, rape and molestation are not guilty.

Death Penalty should be restricted for mass murderers and sociopathic murderers - People that cannot function in modern society.

2007-11-26 23:03:00

#19

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7113|Canberra, AUS

Dragonclaw wrote:
.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:
why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.

You do realise that if often actually costs MORE to execute than to incarcerate someone (for life)?

Facts ftw.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2007-11-27 04:36:08

#20

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6849|'Murka

Spark wrote:
Dragonclaw wrote:
.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:
why should we pay for the care of murders, rapists, and child molesters in jail? Get rid of them all.
You do realise that if often actually costs MORE to execute than to incarcerate someone (for life)?

Facts ftw.

It would be interesting to see some links supporting these facts. What costs are being included in this figure? Are they including the costs of appeals?

It is counter-intuitive that the actual act of execution (absent any of the surrounding legal costs) is more expensive than keeping someone alive for decades.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2007-11-27 05:01:10

#21

PureFodder: Member; +225|6723

I seem to remember it's the 7,000 trials an appeals that every person on death row goes through before being killed as opposed to the far fewer that a typical life in prison, convict will go through.

The death penalty seems fairly pointless as it doesn't appear to have any effect on reducing crime. It sucks money and attention away from solving the problem of crime, focusing instead on the symptoms of it.

2007-11-27 05:24:26

#22

Funky_Finny: Banned; +456|6570|Carnoustie, Scotland

Cougar wrote:
toutinette wrote:
VS OR AGAINST?
REALLY

If no death penalty, when people come out, they go rampage but if there is death penalty, it woud be carnage!
discuss:
i THINK IT WUD BE GOODER IF THEY JUST SENT EVRYONE INTIO THE OCEANS AND MADE MAKE THEM DROWNED,, INSTEAD OF HAVEING THEM INSIDE TEH PRISONS WERE THEY JUST EAT UP THE TAXPAYERES MONEYS AND EAT THERE FOOD, lol, THEY SHOULD JUST PUT THE BAD GUYS IN THE OCEANS AND THEN LET THEM DROWND,,!!!!!!

imho

2007-11-27 06:52:37

#23

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6849|'Murka

PureFodder wrote:
I seem to remember it's the 7,000 trials an appeals that every person on death row goes through before being killed as opposed to the far fewer that a typical life in prison, convict will go through.

The death penalty seems fairly pointless as it doesn't appear to have any effect on reducing crime. It sucks money and attention away from solving the problem of crime, focusing instead on the symptoms of it.

I believe you've outlined one big reason why it isn't a deterrent...the prisoner is alive for years (if not decades) with unending appeals. Basically, they know that, even if sentenced to death, it's years and years off with a good possibility of not ever happening. At that point, there is no "death sentence", so how could it deter them?

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2007-11-27 06:53:38

#24

cheify0: Member; +2|6667|Philippines

rot in jail.....

2007-11-27 07:16:07

#25

Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|7123|Espoo, Finland

PureFodder wrote:
I seem to remember it's the 7,000 trials an appeals that every person on death row goes through before being killed as opposed to the far fewer that a typical life in prison, convict will go through.

The death penalty seems fairly pointless as it doesn't appear to have any effect on reducing crime. It sucks money and attention away from solving the problem of crime, focusing instead on the symptoms of it.

True.
The crimes that get you a death penalty are not the kind that punishment can prevent.

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