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Bernadictus wrote:

With all due respect to the Srebrenica families. But they have stepped over the line now. If we had not been there at all, they would have all been slain by the Serbs. They are only after the money i.m.h.o.
*cough* the men got slain - and the women had a nice "let´s get raped!"- experience. That´s what dutch protection is all about?

Bernadictus wrote:

What? Go look for them yourselves instead of burdening our country with your problems, or sue the Serbian government for all I care.
Mladic and Karadzic will have to face the war crime tribunal, when they get caught. Don´t simplify the topic by your monodimensional patriotic rant.


Facts:

1. The civilians were in an UN safe zone, under protection of dutch troops. The dutch were allowed to protect this zone with military force by UN resolution 836.
2. The dutch didn´t had the balls to defend themselves and the civilians and bought their safety, by betraying those who needed their help.
3. over 8000 men and boys got systematically killed. Grandfathers, Fathers and their sons. countless women got raped.

The dutch were there and could have make a difference. Instead they drank with Mladic:

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40608000/jpg/_40608214_3drinksap203c.jpg

I do not say, that the dutch troops could have beat the serb forces, but they could have defend their position, so there wouldn´t have been a political motivated solution to bring the troops home safely. If they would have started fighting, they would have get air support. Instead they did nothing, but being glad, they got their asses out there alive.
Sure you can´t demand others to die for the safety of civilians - but don´t expect others to give respect to those who ran away.

dutch army = fail

(and those cowards even got a medal for sneaking away: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6207254.stm )
zeidmaan
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I, as a Bosnian, dont particularly blame the Dutch soldiers (sometimes I get pissed off and say differently). It was basically a continuation of epic UN fail. From the start of the war Bosnian side had an arms embargo prohibiting import of any weapons. So you had the Bosnian side fighting sometimes with home made guns (literally) and the Serbs with access to ex-Yugoslavias weapons arsenal which was at that time among best and biggest in Europe. And that embargo wasnt lifted even after 100 000 civilian deaths when the it was obvious and well known to everyone that civilians are getting mass executed.
There were other incidents that showed that UN soldiers on the ground were absolutely useless. It wasnt their fault of course, its just that the UN mandate was such that they could never engage unless they are fired upon and cant retreat or something like that.
To broaden that mandate they would have to a have an unanimous vote which is impossible. Someone, usually Russians would screw thing up.

It happened over and over again.

Americans > all.

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