Would You Act Against Your Country's Constitution?

2007-11-30 03:46:13

#1

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7195|Argentina

We read everyday about politicians disobeying the Constitution in many countries and it seems to care little or nothing.
How do you feel when politicians disobey your Country's Constitution?

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-11-30 03:46:41)

2007-11-30 03:51:06

#2

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6993

I would not act against the constitution of Ireland as it stands now but if some situation arose whereby the constitution was drastically changed or if I was born into a country with an unjust constitution I would take the Che Guevara approach...

2007-11-30 04:00:33

#3

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7058|London, England

I've broken the law plenty of times. Everyone has. Especially the politicians.

2007-11-30 06:05:03

#4

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6979|Texas - Bigger than France

Trial. Laws can be lawfully broken if it is necessary...which is why there's amendments or special powers granted.

2007-11-30 06:19:45

#5

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7195|Argentina

aLi3nZ wrote:
**** extreme cases. where is the option for yes? lolol

Yes aka it's just another law.

2007-11-30 06:22:22

#6

rhinoh2o74: Member; +13|6743|oHIo

Declaration of Independence wrote:
....That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....

My favorite lines

People sometimes forget that the Government is supposed to be for the people, not run the people.

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2007-11-30 06:27:02

#7

TrollmeaT: Aspiring Objectivist; +492|7110|Colorado

It makes me want to kill them all.

2007-11-30 06:52:52

#8

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6884|Chicago, IL

Considering that our political system has degraded into a media circus for four years before every election, (i.e. all the time), and is staffed by the most inept people imaginable (on both sides, no partisan politics here) I'm starting to wonder how much longer our system will last all together.

The best candidates from both parties are going to be completely ignored in 08, and the populist windbags will be left to compete for the vote of the average American idiot...

2007-11-30 06:56:50

#9

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|7102|NT, like Mick Dundee

Other:

In an extreme and immediate case I would instantly act against the Australian constitution, in the hopes that later a referendum could be put to the people ratifying or disapproving of my action once the threat has been dealt with. If the Australian people believe that my actions were unjust or 'un-Australian' as it were, I would face the trial and jail sentence for my actions.

If the case was extreme, but not immediate, I would act through the proper institutions, going so far as to attempt to be elected to Parliament, in an effort to have a referendum put to the Australian people to meet the threat that caused my concern.

In all other cases, any area dealing with a constitutional amendment or acting against the constitution is illegal. A reasonable section of the Australian Constitution is dedicated to the various ways in which alterations to the Australian constitution could be made.

Lastly, there is always the chance that I would just move to New Zealand, Wales, Scotland, Canada, N. Ireland, Ireland or the US of A if I saw no way of dealing with what-ever issue I have that the constitution disagrees with.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2007-11-30 07:11:18

#10

rhinoh2o74: Member; +13|6743|oHIo

S.Lythberg wrote:
Considering that our political system has degraded into a media circus for four years before every election, (i.e. all the time), and is staffed by the most inept people imaginable (on both sides, no partisan politics here) I'm starting to wonder how much longer our system will last all together.

The best candidates from both parties are going to be completely ignored in 08, and the populist windbags will be left to compete for the vote of the average American idiot...

I agree!

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2007-11-30 07:48:31

#11

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7038|132 and Bush

Our elected leaders sure as hell don't have a problem with it.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure...Thomas Jefferson

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-11-30 08:15:49

#12

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

2007-11-30 08:20:54

#13

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6960|...

I would. It's merely a guide.

2007-11-30 08:25:47

#14

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7038|132 and Bush

I think Gunslinger just inaugurated himself.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-11-30 08:33:57

#15

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7195|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that I will bear true faith and allegiance

Under God?

2007-11-30 08:34:57

#16

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that I will bear true faith and allegiance
Under God?

i say god damn all the time. doesnt mean i want "god" to damn something. Its the oath of enlistment.

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2007-11-30 08:37:11

#17

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7038|132 and Bush

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that I will bear true faith and allegiance
Under God?
i say god damn all the time. doesnt mean i want "god" to damn something. Its the oath of enlistment.

The President and VP say it at their inauguration also.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-11-30 08:37:53

#18

TrollmeaT: Aspiring Objectivist; +492|7110|Colorado

who's god. pffhhht.

2007-11-30 08:40:58

#19

rhinoh2o74: Member; +13|6743|oHIo

Two things i can't stand
1. Being too PC about things. I mean come on banning Christmas and Chanukah from schools, because it apparently offends local muslims, or so those who don't want to offend say.
2. Religion in or as Government.

I couldn't think of a better way to put the first statment.

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2007-11-30 08:42:18

#20

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

rhinoh2o74 wrote:
Two things i can't stand
1. Being too PC about things. I mean come on banning Christmas and Chanukah from schools around my area, because it apparently offends local muslims, or so those who don't want to offend say.

link?

2007-11-30 08:47:08

#21

rhinoh2o74: Member; +13|6743|oHIo

I can't find articles for my area, just ">google it

take out the <br /> in the search

I could not find a link, so i edited it out.

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2007-11-30 08:49:31

#22

Skorpy-chan: Member; +127|6782|Twyford, UK

I don't think we HAVE one over here that affects me. Far as I'm concerned, I don't recognise the EU, and the magna carta is a code of conduct for the rulers.

2007-11-30 08:50:52

#23

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7081

rhinoh2o74 wrote:
I can't find articles for my area, just ">google it

take out the <br /> in the search

im interested in the very specific one youre talking about, not the national story.

2007-11-30 10:58:33

#24

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6848|'Murka

sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
that I will bear true faith and allegiance
Under God?

Read the rest of it "...to the same." That means the Constitution, not God or any other deity. It's saying the oath taker will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

Only to help my country in extreme cases	26%	26% - 8
I would ammend it first	10%	10% - 3
It's just another law	20%	20% - 6
Never, it's the highest law of my country	33%	33% - 10
Other	10%	10% - 3
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