Freezer7Pro
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+1,447|6674|Winland

I've got a fairly new computer (Well, in fact, my best computer ) that I use for image editing and gaming, and it works flawlessly, except from one thing: It reboots itself about once a day. I've got absolutely no idea of what could cause it to do so.

Specs:

Pentium 4 630, 3.0GHz (Unclocked for silence)
2GB DDR2-400, Dual channel
GeForce 7600 Passive, with fans added
160GB SATA150 HDD (HDD supports SATA300, mobo doesn't -.-)
SoundBlaster Live! Value
MSI 915G Combo motherboard (Most likely cause)
HuntKey 500w Power supply
Generic 800DPI PS2 mouse and USB Wireless keyboard.
DVD burner and one CD-burner to fill the hole.

No monitored temps ever go above 70 deg C.

I think it's the motherboard, because the damn thing has screwed me over before. But have anyone here got any idea of something that might help?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Crypto_420
Member
+25|7320|Portland
you need to look at the motherboard for any signs of a blown capacitor.  Capacitors are suppost to be flat, but if you see one rounded on the end, bulging, or split.  Capacitor's are the black cyclinder looking things all over your motherboard.  If all check out, then you may have a power supply going out.  But 9 times out of 10, a random restart is caused by fucked capacitor. I would also look on your video card as well for bulging capacitors.
tazz.
oz.
+1,339|6652|Sydney | ♥

It could be something stupid like you have your power settings to turn off after a certain time.... Go to Start>Control Panel>Performance & Maintanance>Power Options

Have a check through....
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Ricerckt93
Member
+69|7130
Another place to check, would be in your BIOS.

Some mother boards have settings for auto boot at certain times, and resets.

Check thoroughly and make sure something wasn't accidentally checked or activated.
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7073|Michigan, USA
Check possible usb components.  Sounds weird, I know, but my USB Wifi adapter starting to go out and began rebooting me randomly every so often, eventully rebooting me as soon as it passed the XP loading.
CrazeD
Member
+368|7150|Maine
Could be power supply.
Spider1980
#1 Commander
+92|7018|Washington

Crypto_420 wrote:

you need to look at the motherboard for any signs of a blown capacitor.  Capacitors are suppost to be flat, but if you see one rounded on the end, bulging, or split.  Capacitor's are the black cyclinder looking things all over your motherboard.  If all check out, then you may have a power supply going out.  But 9 times out of 10, a random restart is caused by fucked capacitor. I would also look on your video card as well for bulging capacitors.
I had this problem with my old board, the Caps around my memory slots where a little bulging and my computer just randomly restarts about once a day.
Crypto_420
Member
+25|7320|Portland
just replaced a mobo with that issue not to long ago...754 pin socket
Freezer7Pro
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Crypto_420 wrote:

you need to look at the motherboard for any signs of a blown capacitor.  Capacitors are suppost to be flat, but if you see one rounded on the end, bulging, or split.  Capacitor's are the black cyclinder looking things all over your motherboard.  If all check out, then you may have a power supply going out.  But 9 times out of 10, a random restart is caused by fucked capacitor. I would also look on your video card as well for bulging capacitors.
Nope.

tazz. wrote:

It could be something stupid like you have your power settings to turn off after a certain time.... Go to Start>Control Panel>Performance & Maintanance>Power Options

Have a check through....
Nope, and that would give me the "Windows Unloading" screen.

Ricerckt93 wrote:

Another place to check, would be in your BIOS.

Some mother boards have settings for auto boot at certain times, and resets.

Check thoroughly and make sure something wasn't accidentally checked or activated.
Nope, and those would also give me the Windows Unloading screen, and it wouldn't be so random.

r2zoo wrote:

Check possible usb components.  Sounds weird, I know, but my USB Wifi adapter starting to go out and began rebooting me randomly every so often, eventully rebooting me as soon as it passed the XP loading.
Nope, all of these have been plugged into another computer 24/7 without problems. Dito for the PSU.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7058|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Crypto_420 wrote:

you need to look at the motherboard for any signs of a blown capacitor.  Capacitors are suppost to be flat, but if you see one rounded on the end, bulging, or split.  Capacitor's are the black cyclinder looking things all over your motherboard.  If all check out, then you may have a power supply going out.  But 9 times out of 10, a random restart is caused by fucked capacitor. I would also look on your video card as well for bulging capacitors.
Nope.
What do you mean, nope?

Do you mean you've checked and they are all fine? Or do you mean it couldn't be that? Because it certainly could be.

It's either your Mobo, PSU or something to do with overheating - which I assume you've already ruled out (although 70C is too hot, unless that is your GPU) - sometimes, and this is not so common, a damaged CPU can randomly reset the system like that. Could be that too, which there is almost no way to test for except golden parting with a known good CPU and test running for a prolonged period.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-12-01 06:29:04)

Spider1980
#1 Commander
+92|7018|Washington
My caps where only barely bulging, you can only see it if you got up close with a flashlight.
I did do a reformat with the same setup and then it seemed to stop restarting on its own..
So maybe you just need to reinstall windows?
Freezer7Pro
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+1,447|6674|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Crypto_420 wrote:

you need to look at the motherboard for any signs of a blown capacitor.  Capacitors are suppost to be flat, but if you see one rounded on the end, bulging, or split.  Capacitor's are the black cyclinder looking things all over your motherboard.  If all check out, then you may have a power supply going out.  But 9 times out of 10, a random restart is caused by fucked capacitor. I would also look on your video card as well for bulging capacitors.
Nope.
What do you mean, nope?

Do you mean you've checked and they are all fine? Or do you mean it couldn't be that? Because it certainly could be.

It's either your Mobo, PSU or something to do with overheating - which I assume you've already ruled out (although 70C is too hot, unless that is your GPU) - sometimes, and this is not so common, a damaged CPU can randomly reset the system like that. Could be that too, which there is almost no way to test for except golden parting with a known good CPU and test running for a prolonged period.
I checked when I put in the sound card yesterday. They're all fine, and I don't think that even MSI's capacitators will blow in less than a year of non-daily usage.

70C is the CPU with fan on minimum after an hour of SuperPI. But hey, it's a Prescott, they run fine on 85. I doubt the CPU is damaged, because it's never been clocked above 3.6GHz. Once the heatsink fell off, (Fan lost a blade, started vibrating and the feet gave up due to the shaking) but that was over a year ago, and it throttled until I managed to shut down.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2007-12-01 08:38:30)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CrazeD
Member
+368|7150|Maine
Do a repair of Windows or reformat.
Freezer7Pro
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CrazeD wrote:

Do a repair of Windows or reformat.
Reinstalled two days ago when I removed my noisy 60GB server disk.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Spider1980
#1 Commander
+92|7018|Washington
Remove a stick of ram and see what happens, if it does it again remove a different stick and see what happens.
CrazeD
Member
+368|7150|Maine
Then run Memtest 86+ for 4 - 6 hours on each stick of RAM.

If that passes, run Orthos or Prime95 for around 10 hours.

If that passes, you probably have a motherboard problem.
Freezer7Pro
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+1,447|6674|Winland

CrazeD wrote:

Then run Memtest 86+ for 4 - 6 hours on each stick of RAM.

If that passes, run Orthos or Prime95 for around 10 hours.

If that passes, you probably have a motherboard problem.
When I moved the computer a couple of days ago, I ran memtest for a couple of hours. The RAM (One month-old stick and one barely used 5-month-old) gave one error in four hours, wich is very acceptable. SuperPI 32M works fine too.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6970|N. Ireland
My vote goes for the power supply. Unheard of brand and well, you said it reboots. Test it with another power supply, I'm sure you have one lying around :P

Last edited by kylef (2007-12-01 10:59:20)

Freezer7Pro
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kylef wrote:

My vote goes for the power supply. Unheard of brand and well, you said it reboots. Test it with another power supply, I'm sure you have one lying around
Can't be. I've had another computer hooked up to it not long ago, and it orked flawlessly.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
bennisboy
Member
+829|7123|Poundland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

kylef wrote:

My vote goes for the power supply. Unheard of brand and well, you said it reboots. Test it with another power supply, I'm sure you have one lying around
Can't be. I've had another computer hooked up to it not long ago, and it orked flawlessly.
doesnt mean its ot faulty now
Titch2349
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+358|6829|uk

bennisboy wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

kylef wrote:

My vote goes for the power supply. Unheard of brand and well, you said it reboots. Test it with another power supply, I'm sure you have one lying around
Can't be. I've had another computer hooked up to it not long ago, and it orked flawlessly.
doesnt mean its ot faulty now
i gree
Freezer7Pro
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Titch2349 wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Can't be. I've had another computer hooked up to it not long ago, and it orked flawlessly.
doesnt mean its ot faulty now
i gree
Well, ow I ook up another PSU to the thing and we'll see if it orks better.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
cospengle
Member
+140|6964|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Titch2349 wrote:

bennisboy wrote:


doesnt mean its ot faulty now
i gree
Well, ow I ook up another PSU to the thing and we'll see if it orks better.
Is it just me or is everyone's keyboard playing up?

But yeah, different computers would put different loads on the PSU, and the setup you're using now might be overloading one of the rails.
Freezer7Pro
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cospengle wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Titch2349 wrote:


i gree
Well, ow I ook up another PSU to the thing and we'll see if it orks better.
Is it just me or is everyone's keyboard playing up?

But yeah, different computers would put different loads on the PSU, and the setup you're using now might be overloading one of the rails.
It's one of those BF2s thingies, not keyboards fucking up, except in the first in the line of quotes.

And I doubt it's overloading, since it has ran stable at 3.6GHz with a 7900GT and four HDDs, compared to 3GHz, 7600GS and one HDD. I also ran the 4 HDD setup on a 450w from the same series.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CrazeD
Member
+368|7150|Maine
Just because you've tried the PSU in another PC, doesn't necessarily mean it will work with yours. Try a different one and see what you get.

Also, try measuring the PC rails with a multi-meter.

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