oh, i was talking about an actual serious proposal that was shot down from the New England area (where i live). I think we should throw them up everywhere, there should be more wind turbines than cellphone towers IMO (i must admit i have no idea when it comes to actual numbers)David.P wrote:
Actually i was thinking in the great plains and maybe the desert where there is nobody to bother.Locoloki wrote:
they want to put some up on the eastern seaboard of cape cod.... but.... the rich folks dont want it to impede thier view of the oceanDavid.P wrote:
Maybe we should invest in wind power motherfuckers?
Not a bad idea. Maybe they should share the tower between the two to save space, And since they are already there the cost would'nt be too much to add a wind turbine.
Well lets see. The PRC is modernizing yes? so therefore they need more oil yes? I get that from the fact that news reports from within the PRC say that they are modernizing. So modernization means more machines that run on oil. More machines that run on oil means that there will be a greater demand for oil. Correct? You can even look at these pretty graphs, if that helps you comprehend it better.colonelioan wrote:
I think you are the ignorant, are you like mental or what, US made the fucking OPEC, OPEC is like a mask letting US control the oil flow, dude US controls everything. Prices are high because the US wants to, it gives them more profit. Increased demand? huh, excuse me where did you get that shit?Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
You poor sad ignorant mother fucker. OPEC controls the oil flow. Prices are high because of an increased demand (a.k.a. Chinese demand) on the same amount of supply. That always leads to higher prices. next time use that thing between your ears before you speak.colonelioan wrote:
Because of this shit system called Capitalism, run and invented by the American pig dogs. And they are Stupid Pig Dogs now.
Money is killing us.
i think were onto something, too bad im not rich enough to buy a turbine... i could probably buy a tower though, they pay for themselve in 3.5 years (or used to anyways)David.P wrote:
Not a bad idea. Maybe they should share the tower between the two to save space, And since they are already there the cost would'nt be too much to add a wind turbine.
Yes smartass, and for the record, the USA might be considered the home of capitalism even though it has never had a truly free market, but Adam Smith was from Scotland.colonelioan wrote:
Oh god..
Capitalism > USA > OPEC > Oil Companies > Money.
Do you even know what does the symbol on your avatar means at least?
OPEC =/= the USA. Stop trying make shit stick to the USA when you can't.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
China just passed us in Co2 production, coincidence?
I hope oil prices go down.. There isnt any sense.. Countries like Saudi have so much oil in their reserves, should be able to last us 60 more years.
Colonelioan, I'm sure I'm not the first to tell you this but shut the Hell up. You keep on throwing around these wild unproven theories with no sources or evidence whatsoever which is understandably pissing people off. Until you get some form of clue about how to debate than I stress on you to keep your wild theories to yourself. One post of bullshit I can understand but not every single post a user has made on one thread. You obvously have no idea what you're talking about.
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Are you seriously sick in the head? I don't even know where to begin on you.colonelioan wrote:
I think you are the ignorant, are you like mental or what, US made the fucking OPEC, OPEC is like a mask letting US control the oil flow, dude US controls everything. Prices are high because the US wants to, it gives them more profit. Increased demand? huh, excuse me where did you get that shit?Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
You poor sad ignorant mother fucker. OPEC controls the oil flow. Prices are high because of an increased demand (a.k.a. Chinese demand) on the same amount of supply. That always leads to higher prices. next time use that thing between your ears before you speak.colonelioan wrote:
Because of this shit system called Capitalism, run and invented by the American pig dogs. And they are Stupid Pig Dogs now.
Money is killing us.
the US isn't even part of OPEC you tool. Which means we have shit for control over it.
And US prices are high, BECAUSE ITS HIGH EVERYWHERE ELSE! Some people..
Stingray's plan:
Step 1 - Give finger to envirowackos protecting the 3-toed gnat in ANWR
Step 2 - Drill in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico
Step 3 - Give finger to OPEC and tell them to choke on their oil
Edit: forgot one
Step 4 - Give finger to EPA and dissolve it
Step 1 - Give finger to envirowackos protecting the 3-toed gnat in ANWR
Step 2 - Drill in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico
Step 3 - Give finger to OPEC and tell them to choke on their oil
Edit: forgot one
Step 4 - Give finger to EPA and dissolve it
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Step 5 - Force refinery productionStingray24 wrote:
Stingray's plan:
Step 1 - Give finger to envirowackos protecting the 3-toed gnat in ANWR
Step 2 - Drill in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico
Step 3 - Give finger to OPEC and tell them to choke on their oil
Edit: forgot one
Step 4 - Give finger to EPA and dissolve it
Step 12: Profit?
Or because Supply is based on demand...
Last edited by DrunkFace (2007-12-04 20:53:19)
Equilibrium was 20 years ago.
no, no, no, we have to leave the profit out, otherwise we'd end up shutting down refineries and closing down wells...stryyker wrote:
Step 12: Profit?
/deskLocoloki wrote:
no, no, no, we have to leave the profit out, otherwise we'd end up shutting down refineries and closing down wells...stryyker wrote:
Step 12: Profit?
Not a south park fan, are yee?
Read up
Cold environments like the vacuum of space, yeah. Hydrogen doesen't tend to freeze very easily; it likes being a gas at room temperature.Locoloki wrote:
in cold environments you would have to make sure the "fuel" doesnt freezethareaper254 wrote:
You could always switch to one of these
Diesel tends to freeze in cold climates, which is why all tanks since WW2 have had fuel heaters, in order to deal with Siberian and norwiegan winters.
Although british tanks have water heaters as well, so you don't have to dismount for a cuppa.
actually i was talking about the water that you have to put in the car....Skorpy-chan wrote:
Cold environments like the vacuum of space, yeah. Hydrogen doesen't tend to freeze very easily; it likes being a gas at room temperature.Locoloki wrote:
in cold environments you would have to make sure the "fuel" doesnt freezethareaper254 wrote:
You could always switch to one of these
Diesel tends to freeze in cold climates, which is why all tanks since WW2 have had fuel heaters, in order to deal with Siberian and norwiegan winters.
Although british tanks have water heaters as well, so you don't have to dismount for a cuppa.
ahhh i c, its been awhilestryyker wrote:
/deskLocoloki wrote:
no, no, no, we have to leave the profit out, otherwise we'd end up shutting down refineries and closing down wells...stryyker wrote:
Step 12: Profit?
Not a south park fan, are yee?
Read up
www.southparkzone.com
no need to face/desk, i love SP
Lol, you serious? It's because it's a traded commodity. And as such it can be swayed with as little as a rumour. As long as it is traded, the prices will be dictated buy those who buy and sell it. With every update as to reserves ( like in the US, for example) The price of crude will rise or fall with negative or positive news. As for your OPEC comments, you're close on this fact, If the decide to pump more or not, also affects prices. If (place any terrorists name here) tells the world he's gonna blow up the oil wells in Iraq next week, prices will rise. If you bought oil stocks a while back, you'd be happier than a pig in shit. So it's all perspective.Flecco wrote:
I lol'd at the person blaming the USA.
It's called OPEC. OPEC are greedy. So are oil companies. They want more money.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Even the dumbasses in my economics class know that the US doesnt control OPEC. I think you should at least go see who OPEC really is, and then come back to talk, because what you're saying makes no sence whatsoever. Lmfao @ this guy...colonelioan wrote:
I think you are the ignorant, are you like mental or what, US made the fucking OPEC, OPEC is like a mask letting US control the oil flow, dude US controls everything. Prices are high because the US wants to, it gives them more profit. Increased demand? huh, excuse me where did you get that shit?Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
You poor sad ignorant mother fucker. OPEC controls the oil flow. Prices are high because of an increased demand (a.k.a. Chinese demand) on the same amount of supply. That always leads to higher prices. next time use that thing between your ears before you speak.colonelioan wrote:
Because of this shit system called Capitalism, run and invented by the American pig dogs. And they are Stupid Pig Dogs now.
Money is killing us.
Edit:
Oh, thats right...back to the thread:
Yea, well in Aus (Gold Coast) we're getting around 1.30$Au. I saw it at 1.39$Au before...jeeez. I wonder what it'll be like in Christmas. Oh well, I will be overseas .
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noice 
yeah its $3.25 where I live soRuns_with_sciss0rs wrote:
A barrel of oil went down $0.99 today.
It's about $3.33 /gallon where I live.
1 gallon= 4 liters
.81 cents per liter
Cos OPEC, the US and the major oil companies are greedy and want to bleed us dry.
?? OPEC wasnt created by the US. It was created by Middle Eastern Countries that produce most of the worlds oil in an attempt to regulate world prices based on global demand.colonelioan wrote:
I think you are the ignorant, are you like mental or what, US made the fucking OPEC, OPEC is like a mask letting US control the oil flow, dude US controls everything. Prices are high because the US wants to, it gives them more profit. Increased demand? huh, excuse me where did you get that shit?Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
You poor sad ignorant mother fucker. OPEC controls the oil flow. Prices are high because of an increased demand (a.k.a. Chinese demand) on the same amount of supply. That always leads to higher prices. next time use that thing between your ears before you speak.colonelioan wrote:
Because of this shit system called Capitalism, run and invented by the American pig dogs. And they are Stupid Pig Dogs now.
Money is killing us.
Dickhead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opec
Yes I know its Wiki, but good enuff for here.
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Supply + Demand + Increasing production / drilling costs + OPEC:s limits set to sustain a steady production + shipment = Barrel price
Barrel price + refining costs + Individual countries' taxation + various middle man retail cover fees = gas price.
OK, there are tons of more variables, but I'd say those are the major ones.
Barrel price + refining costs + Individual countries' taxation + various middle man retail cover fees = gas price.
OK, there are tons of more variables, but I'd say those are the major ones.
I need around tree fiddy.