IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7180|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They're american. They don't do irony.
Jay Fullmer, 38, last month became the first American to get to grips with the concept of irony.

"It was weird" Fullmer said. "I was in London and like, talking to this guy and it was raining and he like, pulled a face and said, "Great weather eh?" and I thought - "Wait a minute, no way is it great weather".

Fullmer then realised that the other man's 'mistake' was in fact deliberate.

Fullmer, who is 39 next month and married with two children, aged 8 and 3, plans to use irony himself in future.

"I'm, like, using it all the time" he said.

"Last weekend I was grilling steaks and I burned them and I said 'Hey, great weather!'"
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7081
you shit heads need to grow the fuck up.
MetalMaiden
Girls>Boys
+80|7024|Hoosier Mama
Yes, I'll remember.  My grandfather was stationed in Pearl Harbor. My grandmother is a native Hawaiian and volunteered with the Red Cross. She told us about how she helped the injured and all the gruesome things she saw in the aftermath. Its kinda a win/lose for me and my family. If the attack on Pearl Harbor never happened, my family probably wouldnt exist.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

you shit heads need to grow the fuck up.
Not likely. It's hip to insult American intelligence at every opportunity ... even in a thread devoted to lives lost because we stood by them.
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Braddock
Agitator
+916|6728|Éire
Yeah, I remember ...what a shitty movie. Michael Bay couldn't direct piss into a bathtub.

The real pearl harbour on the other hand was a bit before my time. A pretty damn important moment in global history though.
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6545|Birmingham, UK

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Its when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor... lol...j/k
No, it was the Muslims!
Seriously, that was offensive, and i'm not even Muslim.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

Braddock wrote:

Yeah, I remember ...what a shitty movie. Michael Bay couldn't direct piss into a bathtub.

The real pearl harbour on the other hand was a bit before my time. A pretty damn important moment in global history though.
Well, it looks and sounds unreal in my Home theater. But yea, the story line was horrible.
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S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6884|Chicago, IL

Braddock wrote:

Yeah, I remember ...what a shitty movie. Michael Bay couldn't direct piss into a bathtub.

The real pearl harbour on the other hand was a bit before my time. A pretty damn important moment in global history though.
Tora! Tora! Tora! was much better, and it gives a much better view of the Japanese side of things.
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de

Kmarion wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

When the US bombed the Japanese....How could I forget?
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.



it doesn´t matter who kills civilians in war - it is always a crime - and never justifiable!

pearl harbour was a military operation with military targets. don´t mix it up.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7038|132 and Bush

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

When the US bombed the Japanese....How could I forget?
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.



it doesn´t matter who kills civilians in war - it is always a crime - and never justifiable!

pearl harbour was a military operation with military targets. don´t mix it up.
Yes, I forgot about the event I just quoted ..teddy..jimmy on. FFs put some effort into it at least.

A German lecturing me on World War II atrocities and killing civilians.. who said Americans don't understand Irony?
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[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|7090|pimelteror.de
'Hey, great weather!'
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7102|NT, like Mick Dundee



Thread went to the shit tbh. Kmarion, cleanup pl0x.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7199

IG-Calibre wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They're american. They don't do irony.
Jay Fullmer, 38, last month became the first American to get to grips with the concept of irony.

"It was weird" Fullmer said. "I was in London and like, talking to this guy and it was raining and he like, pulled a face and said, "Great weather eh?" and I thought - "Wait a minute, no way is it great weather".

Fullmer then realised that the other man's 'mistake' was in fact deliberate.

Fullmer, who is 39 next month and married with two children, aged 8 and 3, plans to use irony himself in future.

"I'm, like, using it all the time" he said.

"Last weekend I was grilling steaks and I burned them and I said 'Hey, great weather!'"
And what does that have to do with this thread?

You not so smart micky

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2007-12-07 11:09:19)

jord
Member
+2,382|7115|The North, beyond the wall.

usmarine2005 wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They're american. They don't do irony.
Jay Fullmer, 38, last month became the first American to get to grips with the concept of irony.

"It was weird" Fullmer said. "I was in London and like, talking to this guy and it was raining and he like, pulled a face and said, "Great weather eh?" and I thought - "Wait a minute, no way is it great weather".

Fullmer then realised that the other man's 'mistake' was in fact deliberate.

Fullmer, who is 39 next month and married with two children, aged 8 and 3, plans to use irony himself in future.

"I'm, like, using it all the time" he said.

"Last weekend I was grilling steaks and I burned them and I said 'Hey, great weather!'"
And what does that have to do with this thread?

Mod:  inappropriate flame removed.
Get yourself another beer.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7126|arica harbour
learn about the history of heroes of any war. that will teach you to be appreciative of what life is
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6567|North Tonawanda, NY

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

it doesn´t matter who kills civilians in war - it is always a crime - and never justifiable!

pearl harbour was a military operation with military targets. don´t mix it up.
OK, more than one country can be hit with that kind of accusation.

During WW2, it was commonplace to carpet bomb entire areas to take out a factory.  Guess what-- cities tend to be near factories.  There had to have been massive collateral damage caused anyone bombing anyone at that time in history.  The technology for precision just wasn't there.


The Germans did it:
Gradually, in the face of heavy losses to fighters, the Luftwaffe resorted to night bombing. Targeting had been a problem in daylight; by night it was basically impossible, with accuracy being approximately "one city". British civilian casualties were heavy. The expected collapse in civilian morale, however, did not eventuate; indeed, it is widely believed the bombings had the opposite effect.
The British did it:
"Bomber" Harris, who ran the bombing campaign, said "for want of a rapier, a bludgeon was used". He felt that as much as it would be far more desirable to deliver effective pin-point attacks, as the capacity to do so simply did not exist, and since it was war, it was necessary to attack with whatever was at hand. He accepted area bombing, knowing it would kill civilians, because it was a choice of area bombing or no bombing at all, and area bombing would mean dropping large quantities of bombs into an area full of activities and industries being harnessed for the German war effort.
The US did it:
Conventionally the air forces designated as "the target area" a circle having a radius of 1000 feet around the aiming point of attack. While accuracy improved during the war, Survey studies show that, in the over-all, only about 20% of the bombs aimed at precision targets fell within this target area. In the fall of 1944, only seven per cent of all bombs dropped by the Eighth Air Force hit within 1,000 feet of their aim point.

Nevertheless, the sheer tonnage of explosive delivered by day and by night was eventually sufficient to cause widespread damage, and, more importantly from a military point of view, forced Germany to divert resources to counter it. This was to be the real significance of the Allied strategic bombing campaign—resource allocation.
The first raid of this type on Tokyo was on the night of February 23–24 when 174 B-29s destroyed around one square mile (3 km²) of the city. Following on that success 334 B-29s raided on the night of March 9–10, dropping around 1,700 tons of bombs. Around 16 square miles (41 km²) of the city was destroyed and over 100,000 people are estimated to have died in the fire storm. The destruction and damage was at its worst in the city sections east of the Imperial Palace. It was the most destructive conventional raid in all of history.
Source.

And there is also Germany's 'proud' heritage of unrestricted submarine warfare, which actually did cause collateral damage.

Not a single country can pretend it's shit doesn't stink when it comes to acts of war, so get off your high horse buddy.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7122|United States of America

IG-Calibre wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They're american. They don't do irony.
Jay Fullmer, 38, last month became the first American to get to grips with the concept of irony.

"It was weird" Fullmer said. "I was in London and like, talking to this guy and it was raining and he like, pulled a face and said, "Great weather eh?" and I thought - "Wait a minute, no way is it great weather".

Fullmer then realised that the other man's 'mistake' was in fact deliberate.

Fullmer, who is 39 next month and married with two children, aged 8 and 3, plans to use irony himself in future.

"I'm, like, using it all the time" he said.

"Last weekend I was grilling steaks and I burned them and I said 'Hey, great weather!'"
Does anyone else find it ironic that the statement supposedly dealing with irony is actually about sarcasm?
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7157|California

I don't know what went wrong in this thread
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6883|The Land of Scott Walker
Was fine til certain Brits and the Irishman entered tbh.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-12-07 13:35:33)

PluggedValve
Member
+17|6777

Bf2-GeneralArnott wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Its when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor... lol...j/k
No, it was the Muslims!
Seriously, that was offensive, and i'm not even Muslim.
Seriously, i t was ajoke.  Albeit not a good one.  Why get offended, how can you not realize its just a bad joke.  They happen all the time.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6975|Long Island, New York
Nobody (teachers and students wise) in my school even mentioned it today. It's REALLY unfortunate. People are so oblivious to not only the present, but to the past.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6779|Atlanta, Georgia

Poseidon wrote:

Nobody (teachers and students wise) in my school even mentioned it today. It's REALLY unfortunate. People are so oblivious to not only the present, but to the past.
Same thing happened at my school today to. My US government teacher didnt even say anything!
Fallschirmjager10
Member
+36|6898

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

When the US bombed the Japanese....How could I forget?
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.
I'd be willing to bet you forgot this.



it doesn´t matter who kills civilians in war - it is always a crime - and never justifiable!

pearl harbour was a military operation with military targets. don´t mix it up.
Ohhh the irony....
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6906

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Its when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor... lol...j/k
No, it was the Muslims!
Both wrong.

The Chinese did it.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6660|Escea

Flecco wrote:



Thread went to the shit tbh. Kmarion, cleanup pl0x.
I concur, these threads should be left to what they were intended, to remember the brave souls lost on that day, not to bash another country for attempting to remember or using the thread to launch into some political debate.

RIP those at Pearl

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