blademaster
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The mall shooting in Omaha has a lot of people wondering if it could happen here.
Local authorities and mall officials say you can't prevent this type of tragedy... but you can prepare for it.
"When I was leaving my house for the mall this morning, I wondered if I should go considering what happened," says Megan Stenhouse, a mother of four young children.

"I'd like to think that it wouldn't happen here," laments shopper Kathy Schied.But it could happen anywhere. A shooting rampage at an Omaha mall.
19-year-old high school drop-out Robert Hawkins opened fire inside, killing eight people and injuring five before he used the stolen rifle to kill himself.
"In a case like a mall shooting, you should avoid the threat," says Grand Junction Police Department officer T.J. Rix.
Authorities say they do have plans in place if a shooting happened here, however, mall security is being tight-lipped about what those plans actually are.

"All of our security officers go through a comprehensive training program," says Paul Petersen, general manager of Mesa Mall.
Police say if a shooter opened fire in a store with direct exits, you should go outside.If you're in a store wedged between others, it's best to go to the back, get down, and stay out of sight.(right, get behind the women and children. I'll remember that.).You should also be aware of your surroundings and don't put yourself in a vulnerable position.

http://krex.tv/modules/news/article.php?storyid=802
Wraith
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Surely that's just common sense though - i.e. if someone starts shooting at you run away and find some cover until you can get the hell away from there.
Graphic-J
The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J
+196|6606|So Cal
Solution: Round up all the Emo's, lock em up in Disneyland and make them wear bright colors. if they try to escape, teach them sex ed. They hate that.
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SamTheMan :D
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Move to Europe
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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I thought this was going to be one of those "carry a gun so you can shoot him first" threads.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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SamTheMan wrote:

Move to Europe
Truly the greatest country ever.
bennisboy
Member
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I really dont get why people do shit like that, fair enough if you wanna take your own life, but dont fuck up other peoples
SamTheMan :D
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The Sheriff wrote:

SamTheMan wrote:

Move to Europe
Truly the greatest country ever.
QFT
David.P
Banned
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I thought this was going to be one of those "carry a gun so you can shoot him first" threads.
I'll turn it into one if you want? After i get back from the store ofcourse.
Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6785|Florida
Most of these mall and school shooters are really bad shots. The story said that kid fired off 50 rifle rounds but only killed 8 people. That is bad aiming right there, in the event of a mall shooting just dont stand still because odds are the guy is a really SHIT shot and cant hit crap.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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David.P wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I thought this was going to be one of those "carry a gun so you can shoot him first" threads.
I'll turn it into one if you want? After i get back from the store ofcourse.
Whatever floats your boat.

It's an idiotic argument, and if you do try to play hero you will probably get shot by police, but by all means, convince me.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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Dragonclaw wrote:

Most of these mall and school shooters are really bad shots. The story said that kid fired off 50 rifle rounds but only killed 8 people. That is bad aiming right there, in the event of a mall shooting just dont stand still because odds are the guy is a really SHIT shot and cant hit crap.
ONLY killed 8 people?  Clearly it only takes one bullet to kill someone, not to mention the 15 he wounded.  Don't be foolish.

23 hits (at least) out of 50 shots is pretty darned good, especially when you figure people are running and the whole environment is somewhat frantic.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-12-07 16:29:58)

Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6785|Florida

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:

Most of these mall and school shooters are really bad shots. The story said that kid fired off 50 rifle rounds but only killed 8 people. That is bad aiming right there, in the event of a mall shooting just dont stand still because odds are the guy is a really SHIT shot and cant hit crap.
ONLY killed 8 people?  Clearly it only takes one bullet to kill someone, not to mention the 15 he wounded.  Don't be foolish.
So he fired off 50 shots at unarmed people, but only killed 8 and wounded 15 others of which only 3 were critically wounded. I would bet most of those were people who either cowered in one spot hoping he wouldnt shoot them or ran in a straight line away from him. In the event a trained shooter or someone with decent skill shot up a mall that would be pretty hopeless if you were near him, in the event of an emo who wants to "go out with a bang" your odds of survival are rather high.

Last edited by Dragonclaw (2007-12-07 16:33:25)

KEN-JENNINGS
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Dragonclaw wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:

Most of these mall and school shooters are really bad shots. The story said that kid fired off 50 rifle rounds but only killed 8 people. That is bad aiming right there, in the event of a mall shooting just dont stand still because odds are the guy is a really SHIT shot and cant hit crap.
ONLY killed 8 people?  Clearly it only takes one bullet to kill someone, not to mention the 15 he wounded.  Don't be foolish.
So he fired off 50 shots at unarmed people, but only killed 8 and wounded 15 others of which only 3 were critically wounded. I would bet most of those were people who either cowered in one spot hoping he wouldnt shoot them or ran in a straight line away from him. In the event a trained shooter or someone with decent skill shot up a mall that would be pretty hopeless if you were near him, in the event of an emo who wants to "go out with a bang" your odds of survival are rather high.
OK.  How about you go shoot up a mall and test your theory.  Perhaps one around David P so he can play hero as well.

Two birds with one stone as they say.
Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6785|Florida

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Dragonclaw wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


ONLY killed 8 people?  Clearly it only takes one bullet to kill someone, not to mention the 15 he wounded.  Don't be foolish.
So he fired off 50 shots at unarmed people, but only killed 8 and wounded 15 others of which only 3 were critically wounded. I would bet most of those were people who either cowered in one spot hoping he wouldnt shoot them or ran in a straight line away from him. In the event a trained shooter or someone with decent skill shot up a mall that would be pretty hopeless if you were near him, in the event of an emo who wants to "go out with a bang" your odds of survival are rather high.
OK.  How about you go shoot up a mall and test your theory.  Perhaps one around David P so he can play hero as well.

Two birds with one stone as they say.
Taking this rather personally arent you?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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Sone
i piss excellence
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blademaster.. you live in Grand Junction?  I went to Mesa State for a semester... I enjoyed Grand Junction immensely.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7171|Devon, England
Here's a question:

You're in the mall with a concealed weapon.

Some kids starts shooting or threatening to shoot people.

Would you be allowed to shoot him to incapacitate?
Deadmonkiefart
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+177|7186

blademaster wrote:

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Police say if a shooter opened fire in a store with direct exits, you should go outside.If you're in a store wedged between others, it's best to go to the back, get down, and stay out of sight.(right, get behind the women and children. I'll remember that.).You should also be aware of your surroundings and don't put yourself in a vulnerable position.

http://krex.tv/modules/news/article.php?storyid=802
Thank you capitan obvious!
Sone
i piss excellence
+22|7004|Houston (Spring), TX
No way.  MASTSS (Mothers Against Shooters that Shoot Shooters) would have you arrested and thrown in jail immediately.
SamTheMan :D
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

SamTheMan wrote:

Move to Europe
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … F8891F.htm
Apart from Finland obviously

Last edited by SamTheMan :D (2007-12-07 16:52:38)

Metaltop
Member
+1|7243|The Netherlands
Damn,, and I thought that bunnyhopping and dolphindiving would save me if my keyboard won't fail on me.
delta4bravo*nl*
Dutch Delight
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Have a scanner @ the entrance off the mall, to much metal no go inside...
They do it all the times in the Philippines, nicely armed guards with scanners stop a whole lot.

https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3230/mallxj3.jpg

Last edited by delta4bravo*nl* (2007-12-07 17:19:33)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7111|Washington, DC

FFLink13 wrote:

Here's a question:

You're in the mall with a concealed weapon.

Some kids starts shooting or threatening to shoot people.

Would you be allowed to shoot him to incapacitate?
No, of course not, you give him brownies.

Come on link what kind of a question is that?
Canin
Conservative Roman Catholic
+280|6955|Foothills of S. Carolina

Sone wrote:

No way.  MASTSS (Mothers Against Shooters that Shoot Shooters) would have you arrested and thrown in jail immediately.
lulz, might have to make a sig out of that one.

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