Poll

What do you believe?

9/11 was engineered / allowed to happen9%9% - 19
The moon landing was faked1%1% - 3
There was a second gunman at the JFK assassination7%7% - 15
FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen4%4% - 8
The US 2000/2004 presidential election was rigged12%12% - 25
Aliens have visited Earth13%13% - 27
In two or three of the above options16%16% - 32
At least four or more of the above options6%6% - 12
None of the above26%26% - 52
Total: 193
TeamOrange
Don't be that guy
+84|6747
On February 4, 1915, Germany declared the seas around the British Isles a war zone. Effective as of February 18, Allied ships in the area would be sunk without warning. This was not wholly unrestricted submarine warfare, since efforts would be taken to avoid sinking neutral ships.[5] (wiki)
Travellers intending to embark on the Atlantic voyage are reminded that a state of war exists between Germany and her allies and Great Britain and her allies; that the zone of war includes the waters adjacent to the British Isles; that, in accordance with formal notice given by the Imperial German Government, vessels flying the flag of Great Britain, or any of her allies, are liable to destruction in those waters and that travellers sailing in the war zone on ships of Great Britain or her allies do so at their own risk.


Imperial German Embassy
Washington, D. C., April 22, 1915

So we did have some knowledge that we might get attacked, it was also suspect that ships like the Lusitania also carried munition for the allies.
Vietnam I'm not really sure about, but I did hear from might be a non creditable source was that the attack at i think Cam Ranh Bay was misleading or completely false BUT I'm not sure on that because lately i have been watching a few conspiracy video, out of boredom.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6431|Truthistan
If aliens have visited, they would have to be friendly. b/c if they meant to do us harm and had the technology to get here, then we are pretty much crispy toast.

JFK -definitely two gunmen and a patsy... probably shooting from the storm sewer and the grassy knoll. Pay back for Robert Kenedy prosecuting/screwing over the mafia who helped the US in WWII and for screwing them again while trying to kill Castro and the bay of pigs

Pearl harbor was a conspiracy - all the carriers were out BUT all the obsolete battleships were in port... that's convenient. Plus they had warnigns from code breaking but did not act... or is it they only decided to move out the carriers and sacrifice the other ships to ensure that they could decifer future messages or perhaps to secure US entry into the war.

Lastly, in 2000, President Gore was robbed in a southern style election, less a conspiracy and more a knock down win at all costs "stuff the ballot" box, disenfranchise the blacks and generally have a scorched earth policy against anyone that is not your kin, kind of election

Last edited by Diesel_dyk (2007-12-10 21:53:26)

Freke1
I play at night... mostly
+47|6983|the best galaxy
Thank You sir, I'll watch the History channel docu "9/11 Conspiracies that dominates" soon.
I can't remember/give the appropiate links because I've seen a lot of docus on video.google, metacafe, Youtube - like 200-300.
I knew that when I posted btw so I wrote "...as I know it".

If You don't believe in any conspiracies at all then watch "The great conspiracy":
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 2926262623

"Zeitgeist" is also recommendable (ignore the intro):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 2995115331

"Keckburg UFO":
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 7502929375
just 3 out of thousends docu's on the net.

found it:
Mcnamara admits: "Gulf of Tonkin didn't happen":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbJLwk-bJaA

Make up Your own opinions. It's Our privilegde

Last edited by Freke1 (2008-01-04 05:04:21)

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ReTox
Member
+100|6935|State of RETOXification
Election was at the least suspicious but I voted Aliens.  It is entirely plausible that life on Earth originated out there and hitched a ride on a comet.

... the poll didn't say intelligent Aliens.
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7246|Marathon, Florida Keys
Aliens ~ Cavemen markings show UFOs next to buffalo and other drawings. We have been seeing them for thousands of years.
https://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/patton1337/stats.jpg
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7111|Canberra, AUS

wingman_lajoda wrote:

The Earth is Flat...  LOL

http://theflatearthsociety.org/

From the FAQ   http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/in … ic=11211.0


Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy

Q: "What about NASA? Don't they have photos to prove that the Earth is round?"

A: NASA is part of the conspiracy too. The photos are faked.

Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?"

A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture.

Q: "How did NASA create these images with the computer technology available at the time?"

A: Since NASA did not send rockets into space, they instead spent the money on developing advanced computers and imaging software instead
HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOOOOOOLY CRAP that's funny
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
T.Pike
99 Problems . . .
+187|6719|Pennsyltucky

TBH, 9/11 was engineered to distract from the fact people were about to find out that not only was the moon landing faked, but there was a second gunman resonsible for JFK's death. 

The basis for all this of course goes back to aliens visiting Earth prior to Pearl Harbor, and replacing FDR with a pod.   It should also be noted that at that time the aliens planted time-delay pods with a 60 year fuse, when theses pods activated the results were obvious in the elections of 2000 & 2004.
Lai
Member
+186|6587

PureFodder wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

jord wrote:


I said it, and being the smart young man I am it's probably true. How long has Earth been here? How long have Humans been here? A fraction, it is well within logic that we're not the only race to have inhabited this planet.
an advanced alien race would have left relics had they stayed for an extended period of time...

Out of the trillions of planets out there, im sure at least one has to have evolved life, but the amount of time, energy, and money required to travel the immense distances between habitable planets is pretty discouraging.
If you actually look at human evolution and the formation of the universe, it really is only relatively recently (in terms of the age of the universe) that any carbon based life could have come about. It requires the universe to expand, cool, form stars, a star to go supernova, the remenants of the star to reform into another star and solar system, the solar system to stabalise and cool, evolution from single cell to highly advanced trillions of cells being.

There is absolutely no chance that there was a carbon based life form on our planet bafore us. The speed of light pretty well stops any communication let alone visitation from any life from outside our fairly immedate (in terms of the universe) surroundings. Non carbon based life is possible but hard to predict anything sensible about. From our undertstanding silicon is a possible basis for life, but you'd expect silicon based life to come about probably much later in the life of theuniverse than carbon based life due to it taking longer to form.
Scientific calculations estimate that there should exist about 380 technological civilizations (in height or beyond our own level of complexity) in our galaxy alone. The chance to come into contact with them is yet minimal and non of them is currently within our reach (emphasize our though) and never will be unless we learn how to break the lightspeed barier or rather circumvent it.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6842|North Carolina

imortal wrote:

I was curous in people who believe in conspiracies.  Does belief in one conspiracy make it easier to believe another conspiracy?  WHy do you believe in what you do? 

I am more curious in the conspicary attitude in general; it is not my intention to focus on any particular one.
You actually didn't name any I believe in.

I just generally believe that the War on Drugs is continued because illegal drug syndicates use their influence to keep their products illegal (so they can make a shitload of profit) and that most war is fought for war profiteering (but I'm not sure if that really qualifies as a conspiracy).

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-12-12 21:57:55)

Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6910|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Alienz!!!


July 8, 1947, and its significance in our time:

Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep and cattle
ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico. This is a well-known incident that
many say has long been covered up by the US Air Force and the federal
government.

However, you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948, exactly nine
months after that historic day, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald
Rumsfeld, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush Limbaugh were all born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?

This piece of information may clear up a lot of things





And tomorrow I is gunna take a AvP-R + Hitman marathon at the moviez. Fun.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6542|eXtreme to the maX
I don't think 9/11 was allowed to happen, it was used afterwards as an excuse which is why the US govt then conveniently lost OBL.
The moon landings probably weren't staged, although while there are one or two photos which have problems most of the claimed defects are explicable.
I reckon there was more than one gunman involved in shooting JFK.
Pearl Harbour - Probably US military complacency. Too much sun, beer and hula girls.
US elections - There appears to have been rigging in the redneck states.
Everyone knows aliens have visited earth.

You guys forgot the whole-WMD Iraq thing!
Pakistan has nukes, Iran doubtless has chemical and biological weapons, the Saudis carried out 9/11, why did the coalition of the weasels hit Iraq?
We still don't know - I vote we waterboard Dick Cheney until he tells us.
Fuck Israel
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6927|Menlo Park, CA
There was a second gunman at the JFK assassination!! Now that I agree with!

He gets shot from behind then shot in the face!! How could Lee Harvey Oswald shoot him in the front of his dome??? Second gunman. . . .for sure!
BVC
Member
+325|7132
9/11 was engineered / allowed to happen

I believe vital intel may have been ignored.

The moon landing was faked

Horse shit.

There was a second gunman at the JFK assassination

Its a possibility.

FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen

Again its a possibility, but then so is vital intel being ignored, and blissful ignorance.  Could even be a combination of these.


The US 2000/2004 presidential election was rigged

2004, definitely.

Aliens have visited Earth

Don't know.  Wouldn't surprise me if they have, wouldn't surprise me if they haven't.  I believe many of the world's governments know more than they are letting on, but don't know as much as conspiracy theorists would have us believe.
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6436|...

Spark wrote:

wingman_lajoda wrote:

The Earth is Flat...  LOL

http://theflatearthsociety.org/

From the FAQ   http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/in … ic=11211.0


Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy

Q: "What about NASA? Don't they have photos to prove that the Earth is round?"

A: NASA is part of the conspiracy too. The photos are faked.

Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?"

A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture.

Q: "How did NASA create these images with the computer technology available at the time?"

A: Since NASA did not send rockets into space, they instead spent the money on developing advanced computers and imaging software instead
HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOOOOOOLY CRAP that's funny
Holy smokes, this is redicoules :

Q: What does the Flat Earth look like?

A: The Flat Earth is a disk, and looks somewhat like a polarized version of the Round Earth map.  It contains what is known as the "Ice Wall, which keeps the water in.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Flat_earth.jpg

Q: With my telescope, I can see that the other planets, sun, and moon are round.  What's up?

A: The other planets and celestial bodes are round, only the Earth is flat.  As for the sun and moon, there is some dispute about there shape, but we do believe that they are both about 32 mi in diameter and that the sun acts like a spotlight, revolving above the Earth and creating day and night.

Q: If the Earth is flat, how come it hasn't collapsed upon itself due to it's own gravity?

A: The Earth does not have a gravitational pull.  Instead, dark energy and dark matter push the Earth upward at an acceleration of 9.8 m/s2, thus simulating the effect of gravity.  This is referred to as the Universal Accelerator, or UA.  The UA also accelerates all other celestial bodies.

Pythagoras and Archimedes would turn over in their own graves when reading this.

I cannot believe how stupid people can be nowadays.

They just randomly throw around with scientific equations to make it look as if the earth would be flat, the other equations don't make sense at all either.

Who in hell invented this shit and made people believe in it, it's redicoules.

Last edited by dayarath (2008-01-04 05:50:18)

inane little opines
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7057|London, England
I remember that. I signed up to the forums asking how do I be an Ice Wall Guard
Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6781|Twyford, UK
I believe the FBI or CIA are watching me and steal my ideas.

I also believe the BBC are copying my MP3 collection whenever I get online, as whenever I get new music, it shows up on Top Gear.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6986|UK

The Ballot in florida for the 2000 presidential elections.

Just the one, though 9/11 is a bit iffy imo

Martyn
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7128|Calgary

justice wrote:

Conspiracies are for the weak minded.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6823
Global Warming isnt on the list?
MAGUIRE93
High Angle Hell
+182|6631|Schofield Barracks
clouds are conspiracies
they are myths just like the moon
MAGUIRE93
High Angle Hell
+182|6631|Schofield Barracks

dayarath wrote:

Spark wrote:

wingman_lajoda wrote:

The Earth is Flat...  LOL

http://theflatearthsociety.org/

From the FAQ   http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/in … ic=11211.0



HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOOOOOOLY CRAP that's funny
Holy smokes, this is redicoules :

Q: What does the Flat Earth look like?

A: The Flat Earth is a disk, and looks somewhat like a polarized version of the Round Earth map.  It contains what is known as the "Ice Wall, which keeps the water in.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … _earth.jpg

Q: With my telescope, I can see that the other planets, sun, and moon are round.  What's up?

A: The other planets and celestial bodes are round, only the Earth is flat.  As for the sun and moon, there is some dispute about there shape, but we do believe that they are both about 32 mi in diameter and that the sun acts like a spotlight, revolving above the Earth and creating day and night.

Q: If the Earth is flat, how come it hasn't collapsed upon itself due to it's own gravity?

A: The Earth does not have a gravitational pull.  Instead, dark energy and dark matter push the Earth upward at an acceleration of 9.8 m/s2, thus simulating the effect of gravity.  This is referred to as the Universal Accelerator, or UA.  The UA also accelerates all other celestial bodies.

Pythagoras and Archimedes would turn over in their own graves when reading this.

I cannot believe how stupid people can be nowadays.

They just randomly throw around with scientific equations to make it look as if the earth would be flat, the other equations don't make sense at all either.

Who in hell invented this shit and made people believe in it, it's redicoules.
if the world is flat then wouldnt we allways have sunlight and no darkness?
AnaalDuck
Lfc Are Crap
+14|6914|Liverpool, England
I think 9/11 was engineered, but if i talk too much i would get slated.
BlackKoala
Member
+215|6762

MAGUIRE93 wrote:

if the world is flat then wouldnt we allways have sunlight and no darkness?
RTFA.

the sun acts like a spotlight, revolving above the Earth and creating day and night.
Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7156|Scotland
none of the above.

donno why, just don't
PluggedValve
Member
+17|6776

CameronPoe wrote:

9/11 - incompetency, not conspiracy.
Moon landing - too difficult to fake.
JFK assassination - possible that there were 2 gunmen.
Pearl Harbor - incompetency, not conspiracy.
US 2000/2004 Election - 2000 Florida probably not squeaky clean, 2004 fine.
Aliens - ate my granma.
9/11 - Why did the US re-elect the "incompetants"?  Without the attack Rumsfeld would not of recieved a military budget of epic proportions to dole out contracts to his bud's.  There are WAY too many unanswered questions to believe the "official version".  I could go on with this for hours.
Moon Landing - Too difficult to fake??  Have you seen the vid's?  that could be a backdrop as easy as not?
JFK - Personnally I dont know enough about it, but i do know some pretty powerful/ cold hearted entities did not want him around.
Pearl Harbour - Most likely incompetance, but i wouldn't assume just because that's what they said happened.  If not for PH the US would not have entered the war at the time.  Which FDR was a staunch supporter of.
US Elections '00, 04 - 2000 I am sure was not squeky clean, 2004 I think they learned from the mistakes of the 2000 rig job and it became harder to prove it was rigged.  Ohio had ALOT of suspicious results
Alien - Never seen em.  Pretty hard to say if they do or do not exist.  But most likely they do somewhere in some form.  Too much we dont know to say one way or the other for sure.

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