BF2S Forums Unlocks--so fucking what.

Skorpy-chan wrote:

1. Bring up unlock weapons on the forum. Observe the flames. Then you'll know. 'pros dont use unlocks noob'

2. I've been sniped off buildings with the thing on burst mode, after shooting the owner with an M95.

3. Get SF. Seriously. Some of the guns are reeeally fun, and the maps are awesome.

4. Realism feh, it unloads a clip into someone in less than a second. BamBAMBAMBAMURKBAMBAM.

Right... It's still got working prototypes which presumably fire as quick as it does in-game. Granted, I've never seen one of those rare working prototypes in action (video or otherwise), but I wouldn't put it past them. Again, 'few working prototypes'. And a real shotgun would presumably maim in one shot anyway, so the whole concept of auto-shotty sounds way beyond overkill. I'm used to any semi-auto shotgun being enough.

Hm. Apparently it has a pretty damn rapid fire rate.
"Rate of fire: 240 rounds per minute" Which is 4 rounds a second. Yeah, that'd squeeze out a whole in-game clip in under 2 seconds, which sounds about right, actually.

... Also... "Capacity : 10 rounds in removable revolver-type drum magazine" ... I guess the 7-per-clip limit in-game is for balance purposes?

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh10-e.htm

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geNius wrote:

I think you shouldn't be allowed to give yourself ammo or meds, but instead collect it from others.  That'd slow medic and 'nade whoring tremendously.

Since this isn't the case, med/nade/unlock/claymore spam FTW.

Wow, that'd actually be nice. Then somebody would actually get points every time an ammo or med is picked up, instead of selfish bastards essentially wasting them on themselves for no points whatsoever. You only get points as Support/Medic if someone besides yourself is resupplied/healed. That's technically the check and balance of the thing, but I suppose it's not much...

Last edited by alexpaladinstorm (2007-12-12 09:06:21)

Skorpy-chan wrote:

Use some goddamn skill instead of a cheap gun.

...? ... oh, right. Responding to the guy at the bottom of the previous page... <.<

Yeah, I get the feeling that if I ever do get around to getting SF, I'm avoiding the G36E, and sticking with the L85 when I go Medic..

Scope has indeed some advantages, also, because the L85 only needs one Headshot to kill the enemy.
So, if you hit that one shot, its a lot faster and better i guess, but if you miss that shot, ure (mostly) gone

It has a relatively high deviation, one of the highest, so you need to pause between every single shot, sometimes ure lucky tho, and hit the enemy anyway. The G36E is just more reliable although it takes longer to kill the opponent. You know, that with every burst, you're going to hit the enemy (if you don't get nervous..). So, you need a maximum of 4 bursts (If you're unlucky, lol)

I don't have a problem with unlocks, I love the F2000 it has accuracy and power
But when i got medic and spec ops i always use the stock weapons because they are so much better in my opinion.

I've played a lot and unlocked everything but engineer and antitank unlocks. And I think that all the weapons are quite balanced, I only don't like M16 but playing a MEC medic I sometimes prefer AK-74 to G36 or L. E irritates me a bit with its burst mode, but it is very accurate. I think all these complains "claymore whore", "flash bang noob" and "it's not realistic"...well guys go play Project Reality (a very nice mod, I like it), I know that mastering AK is more difficult than mastering G36 but the results will be equal. An instead of complaining just stab the guy in close combat that will piss him off more than stupid complaints)))


P.S. I had a funny case playing SF on Warlord I shot two guys on the roof with F2000 GL flying on parachute. They had the same prefixes, one of them called me GL noob. Then I got killed, the rebels captured the point and I saw enemy tank on radar. I took SF kit and threw 3 C4 from parachute near this tank and destroyed it. These guy called me "c4 noob". I didn't do well during that game but by the end of round I occasionally stabbed him in close combat (he tried to grenade spam me lol). Then he created a kick vote against me but it was late and I went to bed. Btw there were no any restrictions on this server.

Last edited by PZmohax01 (2007-12-19 06:11:47)

PZmohax01 wrote:

I think all these complains "claymore whore", "flash bang noob" and "it's not realistic"...

It's not about them being unrealistic,.. claymores going of without any triggering device or tripwire as soon as you move one inch aren't realistic in the first place. It's about them not being used for what they were intended to be used for and them being misused. I don't think anyone at Dice ever anticipated hoppy hop snipers that toss (yes toss, not place) claymores around prone enemies forcing them to remain frozen, or a guy with a shotgun getting owned because someone almost throws a bloody claymore in his face.

rededition wrote:

What really gets my grips is peoples remarks in using unlocks.
I see the game as a game and if you have played enough zo achieve them then by all means use them.

Who gives a fuck when people say unlock knob,EA made them available so i will use them.

umm actually it was DICE who made the game including unlocks

anyway i'm with you

it's everyone's own choice

I dont mind unlocks too much, as long as the person using the unlock isnt limited to say, the G36E for getting kills. The fucking claywhores and nadewhores who do this piss me off:

Cyrax-Sektor wrote:

Too many times I've seen folks chucking nades instead of using their main weapon, or even a pistol! They're only a few meters away and they just jump around like an idiot throwing explosive green eggs.

While they're jumping, don't they know they're prone to dying? A few focused L85 shots take them down most of the time, but it's always dangerous to stay in a spot too long.

Meh, i can shoot better with the standard guns, but prefer to use the unlock sniper rifles. Its all in preference rather than skill imo. I'd be willing to bet i can take down a support/spec ops/anti tank/medic before they even see me.

Gamematt wrote:

I just think, why would MEC dudes use g36e over the AK. You're aiming must be really fail

Other than that, I like unlocks.

If it were my aiming that is fail, then why would changing guns change anything? Maybe the coding on the guns accuracy is fail. If your aim is better using a g36E, gasp....maybe it's the g36E that's coded that way? And so having established that, then why the f__ would you want to neuter your aim on purpose in a game by using a weapon you know has less accuracy coded in? To make the enemy happy? Something is fail alright...the rocks in the head of the whiners.

Listen: every game has a learning curve, this one's is partially based on learning which weapons are better for which situation and which one's have more accuracy. It's what separates you from a total noob. If you want to act like a noob and use a gun that has bad accuracy on purpose go for it. I'll be the one killing you with my g36e and laughing when you bitch about it.

IonYou wrote:

Gamematt wrote:

I just think, why would MEC dudes use g36e over the AK. You're aiming must be really fail

Other than that, I like unlocks.

If it were my aiming that is fail, then why would changing guns change anything? Maybe the coding on the guns accuracy is fail. If your aim is better using a g36E, gasp....maybe it's the g36E that's coded that way? And so having established that, then why the f__ would you want to neuter your aim on purpose in a game by using a weapon you know has less accuracy coded in? To make the enemy happy? Something is fail alright...the rocks in the head of the whiners.

Listen: every game has a learning curve, this one's is partially based on learning which weapons are better for which situation and which one's have more accuracy. It's what separates you from a total noob. If you want to act like a noob and use a gun that has bad accuracy on purpose go for it. I'll be the one killing you with my g36e and laughing when you bitch about it.

And months and months down the line, you'll be the typical below average skilled 3 star general still using a g36e, because there's no skill to using one, you won't learn how to control your weapon better and using the g36e will just scare you away from using the m16 and ak101 because you'll be stupid and decide they're less accurate so not worth using.

And then you'll be jumping around like a moron because you get crosshairs in the air and nobody else doesn't, and then you'll cry hacks when you get served over and over in midair by anyone who knows how to handle an ak101.