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2007-12-14 15:38:40
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6675|Winland

Just wondering if losing THIS much can be normal. I always count with some GB loss, the larger the drive the more the loss. I am aware of that. But 10GB on a 40GB drive, it just doesn't seem right. Considering that 2GB drives tend to lose about 2GB.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2007-12-14 15:41:23
Swissy201
That guy
+12|6756
It can't be normal, I lose 18GB on a 250GB drive.
2007-12-14 15:52:42
aimless
Member
+166|6603|Texas
Is it partitioned correctly? Is it too late to re-format it?
2007-12-14 15:55:39
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6916|King Of The Islands

You didn't format in FAT32 did you?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2007-12-14 15:58:31
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7098|Mhz

FAT32 wouldn't lose him 10GB, it's either failing or you've really cocked up on the partitions.

If it's just a drive you're messing around with I'd give it a low level format and make the partition(s) again.
2007-12-14 16:02:39
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6916|King Of The Islands

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

FAT32 wouldn't lose him 10GB, it's either failing or you've really cocked up on the partitions.

If it's just a drive you're messing around with I'd give it a low level format and make the partition(s) again.
No, but XP won't format a partition larger than 32GB.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2007-12-14 16:03:44
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6675|Winland

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

FAT32 wouldn't lose him 10GB, it's either failing or you've really cocked up on the partitions.

If it's just a drive you're messing around with I'd give it a low level format and make the partition(s) again.
I just re-partitioned it today.

aimless wrote:

Is it partitioned correctly? Is it too late to re-format it?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2007-12-14 16:09:21
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|7055|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!
10 gb for a 40go....Not normal at all.

My 40gb is at 37.2 and my 200gb is at 186
2007-12-14 17:40:45
Crypto_420
Member
+25|7321|Portland

Cheez wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

FAT32 wouldn't lose him 10GB, it's either failing or you've really cocked up on the partitions.

If it's just a drive you're messing around with I'd give it a low level format and make the partition(s) again.
No, but XP won't format a partition larger than 32GB.
try again.... XP can format a partition larger than 32GB!
2007-12-14 17:41:39
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6675|Winland

Crypto_420 wrote:

Cheez wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

FAT32 wouldn't lose him 10GB, it's either failing or you've really cocked up on the partitions.

If it's just a drive you're messing around with I'd give it a low level format and make the partition(s) again.
No, but XP won't format a partition larger than 32GB.
try again.... XP can format a partition larger than 32GB!
Not to FAT32.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2007-12-14 18:23:51
Crypto_420
Member
+25|7321|Portland
who uses fat32 anymore....ntfs duh!
2007-12-14 22:51:18
mikkel
Member
+383|7079

Crypto_420 wrote:

who uses fat32 anymore....ntfs duh!
You were replying to a discussion about FAT32.

OT: It sounds a little far-fetched, but check your drive jumpers. Many older drives have jumper settings that limit the drive to 32GiB for compatibility with older systems and filesystems.
2007-12-14 23:21:20
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7194
He didnt mention fat 32 in the OP... and who uses fat 32...lol?

and OP... did you delete the partition and then create a partition... then format?
Love is the answer
2007-12-15 02:25:50
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

He didnt mention fat 32 in the OP... and who uses fat 32...lol?
Windows users on large scale Mac networks (in some instances). Since Mac networking over SMB only gives read only access to NTFS.


But that's just because Macs are shit....
2007-12-15 02:45:37
elbekko
Your lord and master
+36|6879|Leuven, Belgium
Sounds more like a bad cluster. Do a surface scan.
2007-12-15 05:25:51
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Crypto_420 wrote:

try again.... XP can format a partition larger than 32GB!
Not to FAT32.
FAT32 max size is about 8TB... In XP or any other OS.
Absolutely right.

Yet the XP formatting utility only allows 32GB to be formatted as a single partition. You can use a FAT32 partition of any size, but not create one - unless you format it with something else.

(Damn these people deleting posts!)

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-12-15 05:26:47)

2007-12-15 05:27:46
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7098|Mhz

0o I didn't delete it

Fishy business lol...
2007-12-15 08:28:13
hawaythelads
We are PREMIER LEAGUE!
+84|6964|Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Swissy201 wrote:

It can't be normal, I lose 18GB on a 250GB drive.
Mine too...I need that 18GB back. It will save me waiting till friday for my new HDD to arrive...
2007-12-15 08:59:04
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6675|Winland

hawaythelads wrote:

Swissy201 wrote:

It can't be normal, I lose 18GB on a 250GB drive.
Mine too...I need that 18GB back. It will save me waiting till friday for my new HDD to arrive...
You always lose some GB's. That's because there are different ways of calculating the size. You can count GB as 1000 MB, or you can count it as 1024MB. Now, 1024x250=256000MB. 1000x250=250000MB. If the HDD manufacturer uses the later one, it'll seem like you're losing size, because most OS' use the first one. 250000/1024=244. That plus unusable space and/or reserved file system space gives a rather specfic loss per gigabyte.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
2007-12-15 09:04:32
xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6849|Netherlands tbh

Freezer7Pro wrote:

hawaythelads wrote:

Swissy201 wrote:

It can't be normal, I lose 18GB on a 250GB drive.
Mine too...I need that 18GB back. It will save me waiting till friday for my new HDD to arrive...
You always lose some GB's. That's because there are different ways of calculating the size. You can count GB as 1000 MB, or you can count it as 1024MB. Now, 1024x250=256000MB. 1000x250=250000MB. If the HDD manufacturer uses the later one, it'll seem like you're losing size, because most OS' use the first one. 250000/1024=244. That plus unusable space and/or reserved file system space gives a rather specfic loss per gigabyte.
Maybe your HDD manufacturer can't count then
2007-12-15 09:23:22
ReTox
Member
+100|6977|State of RETOXification
HDs of old used to use base 10 for sizes (1000), then for a while they used base 2 to calculate sizes (1024) because it matched what the computer uses.  For the past 5-10 years HD fabs have gone back to base 10.  So what you see as the size on the box is not the real size in true base 2 math.

You also lose space because of cluster size and partition size.  It's always a good idea to split a big drive up into smaller chunks unless you plan to use it for something like video editing.
2007-12-15 14:09:03
GR34
Member
+215|7023|ALBERTA> CANADA
I guess I have same problem I got a new 250 GB drive nothing on it Was going to use it Exclusivley for games and My computer only sees 200Gb or the 250 so I have no clue!
2007-12-15 14:53:47
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6675|Winland

Ok, I found out what was clogging up the remaining 8GB. I had it formatted as ext3/swap. SOmwhow, the XP install can't detect and/or remove linux partitions...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

 

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