In my experiences teens aren't great drivers because they tend not to pay attention. But where I live, teens are, for the most part, better drivers than most adults. I can't drive anywhere without some douche bag squeeling his tires because he didn't feel like slowing down from 35 to make a turn. Same goes for some ass bag who is rolling in some piece of shit early 90's Camry that is all primered out that has a $8 fart can going 30mph faster than everyone else, switching lanes every six seconds. My favorite one of all time though, is what some dumb ass did while he was in the left turn lane. He flipped a bitch, not the normal way, but over the bloody median. Cops saw it too, did nothing.
flipped a bitch?jason85 wrote:
In my experiences teens aren't great drivers because they tend not to pay attention. But where I live, teens are, for the most part, better drivers than most adults. I can't drive anywhere without some douche bag squeeling his tires because he didn't feel like slowing down from 35 to make a turn. Same goes for some ass bag who is rolling in some piece of shit early 90's Camry that is all primered out that has a $8 fart can going 30mph faster than everyone else, switching lanes every six seconds. My favorite one of all time though, is what some dumb ass did while he was in the left turn lane. He flipped a bitch, not the normal way, but over the bloody median. Cops saw it too, did nothing.
and i agree totally about the attention part. i've actuallly pulled over before because passengers in my car (usually my little brother) were doing something highly distracting to me. i also almost hit a parked car once because i flipped open my cellphone. needless to say, it stays in my pocket until i get to a light or my destination.
@nuk, i actually meant the central valley, but where i live (fresno), it might as well be san fernando. we've grown over 200,000 people in the last few years. its nuts. they've been adding and expanding roads but its just not enough.
just the other day i was taking my brother and his friend to a movie theater and we saw a car that was missing its entire front. some asshole was dicking around on his cellphone, smashed into a wall at 60mph, and died. he was talking on his cellphone and could have killed kids or something who lived behind that wall. the worst thing was that we had to call the cops. accident had to be sitting there for at least 5 minutes and not one person had reported it. only reason we did was because of that woman in new york who got murdered in the street and nobody did anything about it. makes me sick. in fact, thats the reason i posted this in the first place.
It is scary. I think the only way to fix the problems are by:
A) Requiring retest every 3-5 years (with your license renewal). Major penalties (jail time) for breaking.
B) Ban cellphone use while driving. If you are caught lose your license for 3 months and retake the test. Again, and you lose it for two years. Three times, no more driving permanently.
C) Harshen up DUI penalties to a loss of license for 3 years for first offense, 5 for the second (obviously tests to get it back), and permanently for the third.
These measures would make the roads much safer for everyone, and additionally reduce the income of civil suit traffic lawyers (which is always a good thing). Yes?
A) Requiring retest every 3-5 years (with your license renewal). Major penalties (jail time) for breaking.
B) Ban cellphone use while driving. If you are caught lose your license for 3 months and retake the test. Again, and you lose it for two years. Three times, no more driving permanently.
C) Harshen up DUI penalties to a loss of license for 3 years for first offense, 5 for the second (obviously tests to get it back), and permanently for the third.
These measures would make the roads much safer for everyone, and additionally reduce the income of civil suit traffic lawyers (which is always a good thing). Yes?
agreed, mostly. but instead of banning cell phone drivers from the roads, ban the drivers from the cell phones (IE, you can't own a cell phone, or you can only own one that dials emergency numbers only). and retest should only go into effect 15 years after getting your license, and should be yearly after the age of 65.
Ah, arrogant teenagers, where would the world be without you... Did you know you're invincible too? It's true!Ender2309 wrote:
I've been driving for only 6 months, and I already drive better than most of the other drivers out there.
I can safely assure you, you're not one of the best drivers out there (I was a teenager too and I thought so too).
RWK? This helps explain your OP.Ender2309 wrote:
PS: where i go to school, most teens have better cars than the teachers. guess you can't quite be right there.
Relax bro. I've got half my family living in California (whom I visit and drive with quite often) and the worst driver I know (much worse than anyone from California I've seen) is from Victoria. He drives through stop lights, red lights, crosswalks, etc. all the time.LT.Victim wrote:
Ya, what the fuck is with Californian Drivers?
I've yet to see one stop at a stop sign, signal, or even know what the fuck they are doing.
you live in washington. i drive in a city full of assholes that have almost killed me several times. i am not invincible, i am scared shitless and tired of it. i want to be able to drive safely, and your generation is preventing it. once a teen almost hit me, and it was in a parking lot. four times adults have almost hit me on the highway. around 20 times they've almost hit me on streets. sometimes they cut me off and i almost hit them. i'm fucking tired of it, i'm tired of you and fuck heads like you that feel that all kids are morons. hint: some actually are smarter and wiser than you. am I? its possible, but i'd be fucking stupid to say so.pirana6 wrote:
Ah, arrogant teenagers, where would the world be without you... Did you know you're invincible too? It's true!
I can safely assure you, you're not one of the best drivers out there (I was a teenager too and I thought so too).
RWK? This helps explain your OP.
Relax bro. I've got half my family living in California (whom I visit and drive with quite often) and the worst driver I know (much worse than anyone from California I've seen) is from Victoria. He drives through stop lights, red lights, crosswalks, etc. all the time.
your only beef is that i am a teen. that makes you a fucking moron. do you deny that what i say is, in essence, true? no, you do not. please, stfu. you're the typical adult that automatically thinks anybody under the age of 25 knows absolutely fuck all about everything. don't reproduce, your genes are shitty. if you have, kill your children, and castrate yourself.
you also seem to assume that, because, most of the kids at school drive nicer cars than the teachers that i do too. i actually drive one of the less expensive cars at my school. hint: i drive a mustang (yeah, its a good car), most kids drive mercedes, BMWs, Lexus's, and one even has a god damned viper. my car is not nicer than most of the teachers' cars. go shoot yourself, you self righteous fuckhead.
the point is this: if i hadn't mentioned my age or experience in this post (which i did for a reason), every fucking one of you would have agreed with the majority of the list. you still do, but you're too damn proud to admit it. grow up asshole.
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Your a fucking kid who's been driving for six months and you think you're a good driver? The only way you could be good is by being cautious and aware of the fact that you are inexperienced. Driving is the kind of skill that takes years of experience to develop. You think that just because your all caught up on your drivers ed test you know what's what on the road? Also, as far as being spoiled, if your parents are buying you your own god damn car, you're spoiled. They should make you get a job and learn how to make a car payment on your own, not to mention pay your own damn insurance.
Edit: Whether or not people wouldn't have given you flack or not if you hadn't mentioned your age, you did, and they did. Deal with it, don't just spout personal attacks.
Edit: Whether or not people wouldn't have given you flack or not if you hadn't mentioned your age, you did, and they did. Deal with it, don't just spout personal attacks.
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RWK=rich white kid?
Retest shouldn't go into effect 15 years after, because teen drivers still are just as bad as adults. They may still know the rules perfectly for the six months to a year after they get their license, but many of the seniors I know who got their licenses as sophomores can't drive very well at all. Maybe, in fact, if we make the retests each three years until 25 (at 16, 19, 22, 25), then 5 years, people would get better driving skills ingrained in their head as young drivers, and consequently would be subconsciously better drivers later.
Older drivers are bad, but 65 is too young to start each year testing. Most 65 year old are fine drivers. 75+ is where degraded driving skills become a problem, and thus where the once a year retest would start.
Your cellphone idea is better in theory, but how practical is it? Will we have to give out lists of who is banned from cell phones to all the providers so they can make sure certain people don't get them? What will happen if the cell phone providers allow banned drivers to get cell phones? Then we'll have to waste time prosecuting them too.agreed, mostly. but instead of banning cell phone drivers from the roads, ban the drivers from the cell phones (IE, you can't own a cell phone, or you can only own one that dials emergency numbers only). and retest should only go into effect 15 years after getting your license, and should be yearly after the age of 65.
Retest shouldn't go into effect 15 years after, because teen drivers still are just as bad as adults. They may still know the rules perfectly for the six months to a year after they get their license, but many of the seniors I know who got their licenses as sophomores can't drive very well at all. Maybe, in fact, if we make the retests each three years until 25 (at 16, 19, 22, 25), then 5 years, people would get better driving skills ingrained in their head as young drivers, and consequently would be subconsciously better drivers later.
Older drivers are bad, but 65 is too young to start each year testing. Most 65 year old are fine drivers. 75+ is where degraded driving skills become a problem, and thus where the once a year retest would start.
actually, that is true. the worst drivers i know are the ones that started as sophomores.nukchebi0 wrote:
RWK=rich white kid?Your cellphone idea is better in theory, but how practical is it? Will we have to give out lists of who is banned from cell phones to all the providers so they can make sure certain people don't get them? What will happen if the cell phone providers allow banned drivers to get cell phones? Then we'll have to waste time prosecuting them too.agreed, mostly. but instead of banning cell phone drivers from the roads, ban the drivers from the cell phones (IE, you can't own a cell phone, or you can only own one that dials emergency numbers only). and retest should only go into effect 15 years after getting your license, and should be yearly after the age of 65.
Retest shouldn't go into effect 15 years after, because teen drivers still are just as bad as adults. They may still know the rules perfectly for the six months to a year after they get their license, but many of the seniors I know who got their licenses as sophomores can't drive very well at all. Maybe, in fact, if we make the retests each three years until 25 (at 16, 19, 22, 25), then 5 years, people would get better driving skills ingrained in their head as young drivers, and consequently would be subconsciously better drivers later.
Older drivers are bad, but 65 is too young to start each year testing. Most 65 year old are fine drivers. 75+ is where degraded driving skills become a problem, and thus where the once a year retest would start.
the cellphone thing, well, since everything is computerized, providers could have system that autoupdates based on who's on an electronic list (provided by the court system, electronically over a network) and blocks the ID when a purchase is made, or locks an existing account. and, if during a traffic stop the cop finds a cell phone in the front seat, emergency use only ones (as mentioned in the above) excepted, automatic ban from the road for 4 years.
i also concede about old people.
eat your words. your entire post is a personal attack.AchangelTyreal wrote:
Edit: Whether or not people wouldn't have given you flack or not if you hadn't mentioned your age, you did, and they did. Deal with it, don't just spout personal attacks.
edit: and before you call somebody spoiled, know the situation. if it makes life easier for my parents if i have car to drive, then it makes sense to buy me one. they don't have time to take us to school in the mornings, or get us afterward, and they canceled the bus in my area. they also don't have time to drive me to and from the library or all over town for my numerous group projects. happens with APs.
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Only problem being the cop will not be able to instantly check if they are on the list. They would have to check later, and then track down the driver. Other than that, I like it.Ender2309 wrote:
the cellphone thing, well, since everything is computerized, providers could have system that autoupdates based on who's on an electronic list (provided by the court system, electronically over a network) and blocks the ID when a purchase is made, or locks an existing account. and, if during a traffic stop the cop finds a cell phone in the front seat, emergency use only ones (as mentioned in the above) excepted, automatic ban from the road for 4 years.nukchebi0 wrote:
RWK=rich white kid?Your cellphone idea is better in theory, but how practical is it? Will we have to give out lists of who is banned from cell phones to all the providers so they can make sure certain people don't get them? What will happen if the cell phone providers allow banned drivers to get cell phones? Then we'll have to waste time prosecuting them too.agreed, mostly. but instead of banning cell phone drivers from the roads, ban the drivers from the cell phones (IE, you can't own a cell phone, or you can only own one that dials emergency numbers only). and retest should only go into effect 15 years after getting your license, and should be yearly after the age of 65.
Retest shouldn't go into effect 15 years after, because teen drivers still are just as bad as adults. They may still know the rules perfectly for the six months to a year after they get their license, but many of the seniors I know who got their licenses as sophomores can't drive very well at all. Maybe, in fact, if we make the retests each three years until 25 (at 16, 19, 22, 25), then 5 years, people would get better driving skills ingrained in their head as young drivers, and consequently would be subconsciously better drivers later.
Older drivers are bad, but 65 is too young to start each year testing. Most 65 year old are fine drivers. 75+ is where degraded driving skills become a problem, and thus where the once a year retest would start.
When did you start driving (school grade, and how many months after your 16th birthday)?
well, it could come up when the cop runs the plates, and if the name on the license matches the restricted name on the plate run, then its all good.nukchebi0 wrote:
Only problem being the cop will not be able to instantly check if they are on the list. They would have to check later, and then track down the driver. Other than that, I like it.Ender2309 wrote:
the cellphone thing, well, since everything is computerized, providers could have system that autoupdates based on who's on an electronic list (provided by the court system, electronically over a network) and blocks the ID when a purchase is made, or locks an existing account. and, if during a traffic stop the cop finds a cell phone in the front seat, emergency use only ones (as mentioned in the above) excepted, automatic ban from the road for 4 years.nukchebi0 wrote:
RWK=rich white kid?
Your cellphone idea is better in theory, but how practical is it? Will we have to give out lists of who is banned from cell phones to all the providers so they can make sure certain people don't get them? What will happen if the cell phone providers allow banned drivers to get cell phones? Then we'll have to waste time prosecuting them too.
Retest shouldn't go into effect 15 years after, because teen drivers still are just as bad as adults. They may still know the rules perfectly for the six months to a year after they get their license, but many of the seniors I know who got their licenses as sophomores can't drive very well at all. Maybe, in fact, if we make the retests each three years until 25 (at 16, 19, 22, 25), then 5 years, people would get better driving skills ingrained in their head as young drivers, and consequently would be subconsciously better drivers later.
Older drivers are bad, but 65 is too young to start each year testing. Most 65 year old are fine drivers. 75+ is where degraded driving skills become a problem, and thus where the once a year retest would start.
When did you start driving (school grade, and how many months after your 16th birthday)?
started a month before 17, last month of my junior year.
So a certain name would be ascribed to a certain set of plates? If someone was banned but driving their other car, wouldn't they come out clean (or would this be solved by learning all plates of the offender during their first offense legal proceedings?)Ender2309 wrote:
well, it could come up when the cop runs the plates, and if the name on the license matches the restricted name on the plate run, then its all good.nukchebi0 wrote:
Only problem being the cop will not be able to instantly check if they are on the list. They would have to check later, and then track down the driver. Other than that, I like it.Ender2309 wrote:
the cellphone thing, well, since everything is computerized, providers could have system that autoupdates based on who's on an electronic list (provided by the court system, electronically over a network) and blocks the ID when a purchase is made, or locks an existing account. and, if during a traffic stop the cop finds a cell phone in the front seat, emergency use only ones (as mentioned in the above) excepted, automatic ban from the road for 4 years.
When did you start driving (school grade, and how many months after your 16th birthday)?
started a month before 17, last month of my junior year.
Eat yours. I'm responding to your post with my opinion. You can't handle it then too bad.Ender2309 wrote:
eat your words. your entire post is a personal attack.AchangelTyreal wrote:
Edit: Whether or not people wouldn't have given you flack or not if you hadn't mentioned your age, you did, and they did. Deal with it, don't just spout personal attacks.
edit: and before you call somebody spoiled, know the situation. if it makes life easier for my parents if i have car to drive, then it makes sense to buy me one. they don't have time to take us to school in the mornings, or get us afterward, and they canceled the bus in my area. they also don't have time to drive me to and from the library or all over town for my numerous group projects. happens with APs.
i handled it fine. but its poor form to be hypocritical. destroys credibility.AchangelTyreal wrote:
Eat yours. I'm responding to your post with my opinion. You can't handle it then too bad.Ender2309 wrote:
eat your words. your entire post is a personal attack.AchangelTyreal wrote:
Edit: Whether or not people wouldn't have given you flack or not if you hadn't mentioned your age, you did, and they did. Deal with it, don't just spout personal attacks.
edit: and before you call somebody spoiled, know the situation. if it makes life easier for my parents if i have car to drive, then it makes sense to buy me one. they don't have time to take us to school in the mornings, or get us afterward, and they canceled the bus in my area. they also don't have time to drive me to and from the library or all over town for my numerous group projects. happens with APs.
well, gentlemen, if these personal attacks continue, you'll both be banned. And no, I don't care who started it. This ain't no school yard. Grow up.
If someone flames you, flaming back at him does little in helping to support your argument. Report the person, and let us deal with it.
if I find any more personal attack here, starting from this post of mine, you will be banned.
where is the christmas spirit these days...
If someone flames you, flaming back at him does little in helping to support your argument. Report the person, and let us deal with it.
if I find any more personal attack here, starting from this post of mine, you will be banned.
where is the christmas spirit these days...
i never flamed achangel. i flamed somebody else because i was tired of the all the attacks i was getting here.
I would consider it unwise to reveal more information about yourself than is necessary on these forums.
Where to begin...
I live in Seattle, known for some of the worst drivers (and worst traffic), 3rd in the US only to Dallas and California.ender2309 wrote:
you live in washington. i drive in a city full of assholes that have almost killed me several times.
So that's about 30 times in the 6 months you've been driving. As stated above, unless you live in Dallas or California, statisticly I live in a worse place to drive than you and I wasn't even close to that in my first year of driving so I'm going to assume that since you're the arrogant way you are, it's you that has been driving poorly and when you almost hit someone for going the speed limit, you blame it on them for going too slow.ender2309 wrote:
once a teen almost hit me, and it was in a parking lot. four times adults have almost hit me on the highway. around 20 times they've almost hit me on streets. sometimes they cut me off and i almost hit them.
So now you know how smart I am? You're what, 16? 17? Which puts you in 10th, 11th, 12th grade? And I've already passed high school, college, what have you... I'm sensing that arrogance thing again.ender2309 wrote:
fuck heads like you that feel that all kids are morons. hint: some actually are smarter and wiser than you. am I? its possible, but i'd be fucking stupid to say so.
When you grow up you'll understand that a mature argument gets your point across clearer and makes you not look like you're in high school.ender2309 wrote:
Do you deny that what i say is, in essence, true? no, you do not. please, stfu. you're the typical adult that automatically thinks anybody under the age of 25 knows absolutely fuck all about everything. don't reproduce, your genes are shitty. if you have, kill your children, and castrate yourself.
A MUSTANG! Jesus, you have no idea of the value of a dollar do you? I bet you're going to grow up thinking you've had it "hard" too. Like you when you were in high school you had to "struggle". I'm going to let you on a little secret you won't find out until you get a little older: no, you haven't.ender2309 wrote:
i actually drive one of the less expensive cars at my school. hint: i drive a mustang (yeah, its a good car), most kids drive mercedes, BMWs, Lexus's, and one even has a god damned viper. my car is not nicer than most of the teachers' cars. go shoot yourself, you self righteous fuckhead.
Actually no. I've read more than a few "I'm the best driver in the world and I'm going to kill the next ________ for ________ing me on the road" rants. Most, if not all (not anymore now) are by adults (who say they are, I'm not just assuming to make a point) and I don't agree with them. They say the same bull about everyone driving too slow, almost hitting them, are bad drivers, etc. and I just laugh because they think they own the road (sound familiar?) and it's the teenagers that are shitty drivers. I may disagree with them but when it comes down to them versus you, I'm going to have to take their side based entirely on age and experience.2309 wrote:
the point is this: if i hadn't mentioned my age or experience in this post (which i did for a reason), every fucking one of you would have agreed with the majority of the list. you still do, but you're too damn proud to admit it. grow up asshole.
perhaps i felt it was necessary to prove a point?
Younger drivers, and I consider myself one of them, are more or less completely up to date with all the recent road-rules while older drivers have not kept track of them. Also Older drivers got their licence at a time when testing wasn't so strict. My own mother only had to drive down a road, turn a corner and park to earn her full licence. I took a written test, waited six months, took a 30 minute practical test, waited 18 months and finally sat a one hour practical test to get my full licence.
However one of the most important factors in driving is experience. Older drivers have this while younger drivers think they have this.
Younger drivers are also let down by the "Fast and the Furious" fueled boy-racers who get humongous debts in order to do up their cars into noisey and fast machines and seal the deal by driving like fucking retards. Unfortunately this has meant that all young drivers, mostly young males between the ages of 18 and 25, are tarred with this brush that ensures higher insurance premiums and the negative view most older drivers have of us. It sucks but that's the way the world is.
Older drivers have arrogance and self confidence which is not entirely a good thing. When you're driving your aim is to not only drive YOUR car to the conditions and insure what YOU'RE doing is correct, but you also have to drive to other people's driving. Older drivers generally don't do this, countless times I've watched older drivers hoon around roundabouts, failing to indicate in the proper manner and failing to give way to the proper side. It's because they don't know about the rules yet they've got the confidence to believe that what they're doing is right.
So in summery; younger drivers fail because we lack experience and have the bad reputation our boy-racer, or "fucking retard" peers give us, and older drivers fail because they think they're all that and a bag of potato chips.
(Jamesb gave the best advise with "Drive as though no one has see you and everyone is an idiot.")
However one of the most important factors in driving is experience. Older drivers have this while younger drivers think they have this.
Younger drivers are also let down by the "Fast and the Furious" fueled boy-racers who get humongous debts in order to do up their cars into noisey and fast machines and seal the deal by driving like fucking retards. Unfortunately this has meant that all young drivers, mostly young males between the ages of 18 and 25, are tarred with this brush that ensures higher insurance premiums and the negative view most older drivers have of us. It sucks but that's the way the world is.
Older drivers have arrogance and self confidence which is not entirely a good thing. When you're driving your aim is to not only drive YOUR car to the conditions and insure what YOU'RE doing is correct, but you also have to drive to other people's driving. Older drivers generally don't do this, countless times I've watched older drivers hoon around roundabouts, failing to indicate in the proper manner and failing to give way to the proper side. It's because they don't know about the rules yet they've got the confidence to believe that what they're doing is right.
So in summery; younger drivers fail because we lack experience and have the bad reputation our boy-racer, or "fucking retard" peers give us, and older drivers fail because they think they're all that and a bag of potato chips.
(Jamesb gave the best advise with "Drive as though no one has see you and everyone is an idiot.")
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He lives in California.pirana6 wrote:
..California...
So this isn't lost, as it is a gem.Ty wrote:
Younger drivers, and I consider myself one of them, are more or less completely up to date with all the recent road-rules while older drivers have not kept track of them. Also Older drivers got their licence at a time when testing wasn't so strict. My own mother only had to drive down a road, turn a corner and park to earn her full licence. I took a written test, waited six months, took a 30 minute practical test, waited 18 months and finally sat a one hour practical test to get my full licence.
However one of the most important factors in driving is experience. Older drivers have this while younger drivers think they have this.
Younger drivers are also let down by the "Fast and the Furious" fueled boy-racers who get humongous debts in order to do up their cars into noisey and fast machines and seal the deal by driving like fucking retards. Unfortunately this has meant that all young drivers, mostly young males between the ages of 18 and 25, are tarred with this brush that ensures higher insurance premiums and the negative view most older drivers have of us. It sucks but that's the way the world is.
Older drivers have arrogance and self confidence which is not entirely a good thing. When you're driving your aim is to not only drive YOUR car to the conditions and insure what YOU'RE doing is correct, but you also have to drive to other people's driving. Older drivers generally don't do this, countless times I've watched older drivers hoon around roundabouts, failing to indicate in the proper manner and failing to give way to the proper side. It's because they don't know about the rules yet they've got the confidence to believe that what they're doing is right.
So in summery; younger drivers fail because we lack experience and have the bad reputation our boy-racer, or "fucking retard" peers give us, and older drivers fail because they think they're all that and a bag of potato chips.
(Jamesb gave the best advise with "Drive as though no one has see you and everyone is an idiot.")
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QFTTy wrote:
Younger drivers, and I consider myself one of them, are more or less completely up to date with all the recent road-rules while older drivers have not kept track of them. Also Older drivers got their licence at a time when testing wasn't so strict. My own mother only had to drive down a road, turn a corner and park to earn her full licence. I took a written test, waited six months, took a 30 minute practical test, waited 18 months and finally sat a one hour practical test to get my full licence.
However one of the most important factors in driving is experience. Older drivers have this while younger drivers think they have this.
Younger drivers are also let down by the "Fast and the Furious" fueled boy-racers who get humongous debts in order to do up their cars into noisey and fast machines and seal the deal by driving like fucking retards. Unfortunately this has meant that all young drivers, mostly young males between the ages of 18 and 25, are tarred with this brush that ensures higher insurance premiums and the negative view most older drivers have of us. It sucks but that's the way the world is.
Older drivers have arrogance and self confidence which is not entirely a good thing. When you're driving your aim is to not only drive YOUR car to the conditions and insure what YOU'RE doing is correct, but you also have to drive to other people's driving. Older drivers generally don't do this, countless times I've watched older drivers hoon around roundabouts, failing to indicate in the proper manner and failing to give way to the proper side. It's because they don't know about the rules yet they've got the confidence to believe that what they're doing is right.
So in summery; younger drivers fail because we lack experience and have the bad reputation our boy-racer, or "fucking retard" peers give us, and older drivers fail because they think they're all that and a bag of potato chips.
(Jamesb gave the best advise with "Drive as though no one has see you and everyone is an idiot.")
actually pirana, i have it very good in life, and parents made damn sure i knew it growing up. and like i said before, the point wasn't that i was better than anybody else, this was list of things i've noticed people do that has almost caused myself, my mother, my friends, my father, others, etc. accidents, or actually did get them into them.
and i do live in california, also previously stated in this thread.
and like i said, its possible that I'm smarter, but i have no idea who you are or anything about you, which is why it would be stupid for me to say i was. my point was merely that just because somebody is younger than you doesn't mean they don't know anything or are automatically worse than you at something. if you're a good driver, there's no reason to get pissed at what i've said, because you do know that most of it is unobjectionably correct, and while some of it may be my opinion, most of it is general road safety.
i also make a point to never go more than 5 over the posted limit, and thats only when i'm really in a bind. if i don't know the limit, i assume its 35 its its a single lane with a suicide lane, 40 for a double w/suicide.
about my car: well, my dad was planning on getting me something a hell of a lot cheaper, but he had just sold his corvette ZO6 and was having second thoughts, saw this car used at a dealership going for 5 grand less than usual, and decided not to pass. when he told me he was getting me a car, i asked for two things, if possible: a stick shift, and something with a CD changer, so i wouldnt have to dick around with CDs while driving.
and you're right about the maturity of the post. i've been having a shitty day and took it out on you, because i was angry about the way some people were treating me in the thread. i apologize for that.
and i do live in california, also previously stated in this thread.
and like i said, its possible that I'm smarter, but i have no idea who you are or anything about you, which is why it would be stupid for me to say i was. my point was merely that just because somebody is younger than you doesn't mean they don't know anything or are automatically worse than you at something. if you're a good driver, there's no reason to get pissed at what i've said, because you do know that most of it is unobjectionably correct, and while some of it may be my opinion, most of it is general road safety.
i also make a point to never go more than 5 over the posted limit, and thats only when i'm really in a bind. if i don't know the limit, i assume its 35 its its a single lane with a suicide lane, 40 for a double w/suicide.
about my car: well, my dad was planning on getting me something a hell of a lot cheaper, but he had just sold his corvette ZO6 and was having second thoughts, saw this car used at a dealership going for 5 grand less than usual, and decided not to pass. when he told me he was getting me a car, i asked for two things, if possible: a stick shift, and something with a CD changer, so i wouldnt have to dick around with CDs while driving.
and you're right about the maturity of the post. i've been having a shitty day and took it out on you, because i was angry about the way some people were treating me in the thread. i apologize for that.
Yea, flipped a bitch, means a U-turn.Ender2309 wrote:
flipped a bitch?jason85 wrote:
In my experiences teens aren't great drivers because they tend not to pay attention. But where I live, teens are, for the most part, better drivers than most adults. I can't drive anywhere without some douche bag squeeling his tires because he didn't feel like slowing down from 35 to make a turn. Same goes for some ass bag who is rolling in some piece of shit early 90's Camry that is all primered out that has a $8 fart can going 30mph faster than everyone else, switching lanes every six seconds. My favorite one of all time though, is what some dumb ass did while he was in the left turn lane. He flipped a bitch, not the normal way, but over the bloody median. Cops saw it too, did nothing.
and i agree totally about the attention part. i've actuallly pulled over before because passengers in my car (usually my little brother) were doing something highly distracting to me. i also almost hit a parked car once because i flipped open my cellphone. needless to say, it stays in my pocket until i get to a light or my destination.
@nuk, i actually meant the central valley, but where i live (fresno), it might as well be san fernando. we've grown over 200,000 people in the last few years. its nuts. they've been adding and expanding roads but its just not enough.
just the other day i was taking my brother and his friend to a movie theater and we saw a car that was missing its entire front. some asshole was dicking around on his cellphone, smashed into a wall at 60mph, and died. he was talking on his cellphone and could have killed kids or something who lived behind that wall. the worst thing was that we had to call the cops. accident had to be sitting there for at least 5 minutes and not one person had reported it. only reason we did was because of that woman in new york who got murdered in the street and nobody did anything about it. makes me sick. in fact, thats the reason i posted this in the first place.