http://www.myspace.com/bloodysundaystryyker wrote:
Show me one good Christian band
Poll
How would you feel if they released a Christian version of "Rock Band"
| I Would Love It. | 8% | 8% - 9 | ||||
| I would try it, even if I didn't know the songs. | 1% | 1% - 2 | ||||
| I wouldn't try it, and wouldn't care. | 62% | 62% - 66 | ||||
| It would piss me off that they would release it. | 17% | 17% - 18 | ||||
| Another answer I haven't accounted for. (Explain Below) | 9% | 9% - 10 | ||||
| Total: 105 | ||||||
Don't agree at all. I think most Christian rock comes from Christians who like rock. Evangelical nutjobs don't have anything to do with it. Christian/Religious music has been around for a couple thousand years. No reason for it not to keep up with modern genres.Spearhead wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the whole Christian rock thing is just another ploy by the right wing evangelicals in this country to make themselves appear more mainstream then they really are. They know people think their nutjobs, so they try to make themselves appear like everyone else. Truth is, now they're even weirder imo.
The Christian right vs. Everyone else is going to be the next big conflict in the USA in the next few decades. Thats why we need more than two parties... there are plenty of conservatives who just shouldn't be in the same group as far right christians.
I had a relative (A right wing evangelist) who condemned Christian rock believing that nothing with a fast beat could be holy. I never understood his views, and he had nothing to back them up. He would condemn anyone who played or listened to upbeat music.
Funny when you consider the stuff he listened to and thought was fine would have been upbeat 100 years ago... And was probably condemned by someone back then...
My personal current favorite:stryyker wrote:
Show me one good Christian band
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu … D=10911231
Thats not good.
You can't have 40 years worth of music on the same subject. It becomes drone.
All depends on who you ask. I don't think there's a plethora of new subjects in the mainstream music scene ...stryyker wrote:
You can't have 40 years worth of music on the same subject. It becomes drone.
Put Thousand Foot Krutch on it.
Well maybe I just dont know. Thats been my impression though.HITNRUNXX wrote:
Don't agree at all. I think most Christian rock comes from Christians who like rock. Evangelical nutjobs don't have anything to do with it. Christian/Religious music has been around for a couple thousand years. No reason for it not to keep up with modern genres.Spearhead wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the whole Christian rock thing is just another ploy by the right wing evangelicals in this country to make themselves appear more mainstream then they really are. They know people think their nutjobs, so they try to make themselves appear like everyone else. Truth is, now they're even weirder imo.
The Christian right vs. Everyone else is going to be the next big conflict in the USA in the next few decades. Thats why we need more than two parties... there are plenty of conservatives who just shouldn't be in the same group as far right christians.
I had a relative (A right wing evangelist) who condemned Christian rock believing that nothing with a fast beat could be holy. I never understood his views, and he had nothing to back them up. He would condemn anyone who played or listened to upbeat music.
Funny when you consider the stuff he listened to and thought was fine would have been upbeat 100 years ago... And was probably condemned by someone back then...
Wasnt saying it was a conspiracy. No one believes the shit they say on infomercials, does that make it a conspiracy? Hell no.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
Uhhh, Christian Rock is not a conspiracy. It is just a place for crappy bands to get an audience.Spearhead wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, the whole Christian rock thing is just another ploy by the right wing evangelicals in this country to make themselves appear more mainstream then they really are. They know people think their nutjobs, so they try to make themselves appear like everyone else. Truth is, now they're even weirder imo.
Im not going to bash on peoples music choices. Those are unique to the person IMO. But I was dragged to a Petra concert once...and it solidified my hate of the church and Christian rock in one fell swoop. But thats my opinion. Should they release a Christian Rock version? Sure, why not. I don't think they shouldn't just because its religious. Its more a matter of their bottom line I think. And it seems like there is money to be made on something like that. I guess what im saying is who cares if they release a Christian version? it would be like an add on or a mod. I dunno but this all seems a bit silly.
I think it would help them sale-wise.
Most Cristian families probably dont like the whole "OMG DEVIL/SATIN SHIT" that the game throws at you.
Most Cristian families probably dont like the whole "OMG DEVIL/SATIN SHIT" that the game throws at you.
By the way, I agree with you here. Sad but probably true, things are bubbling towards a huge conflict. It can be hard to decide the line between standing up for your rights, and "turn the other cheek." And it seems most Christians go to one extreme or the other. Civil War II is the subject of a completely different subject though.Spearhead wrote:
The Christian right vs. Everyone else is going to be the next big conflict in the USA in the next few decades. Thats why we need more than two parties... there are plenty of conservatives who just shouldn't be in the same group as far right christians.
Who cares? From what I have read, the creators/developers are planning on enabling whole cd's worth of content to be accessible and downloaded for play periodically. If they want to make a "Christian" CD available, fine. To me it's no different than them releasing an '80s CD or some other genre. In fact, if they wanted to create a video game entirely composed of Christian songs, who cares? It's not like you are forced to buy it. The economy is open for all factions to exploit; it's not just one politically correct economy over all.
Thank you. That was the general answer I would expect from most people. That was also the sole reason it aggravated me so much that people were so cruel to the guy on the other forum.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Who cares? From what I have read, the creators/developers are planning on enabling whole cd's worth of content to be accessible and downloaded for play periodically. If they want to make a "Christian" CD available, fine. To me it's no different than them releasing an '80s CD or some other genre. In fact, if they wanted to create a video game entirely composed of Christian songs, who cares? It's not like you are forced to buy it. The economy is open for all factions to exploit; it's not just one politically correct economy over all.
Two words:
Guitar Queer-o.
Guitar Queer-o.
Congratulations, you have reached a million points. You are.....A FAG!unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Two words:
Guitar Queer-o.
Video crowd hates you.
Anyhow, you can just make your own using whatever you want via StepMania, if that's your thing.
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Does the nature of the OP and the following posts even remotely something focussed around a serious, intellectual topic?
More than the coherence of your post.The_Mac wrote:
Does the nature of the OP and the following posts even remotely something focussed around a serious, intellectual topic?
I have heard Christian rock before. I have heard lots of it. I have even been forced to sing it.HITNRUNXX wrote:
As far as the "All Christian Music is Crap" statements, I obviously don't agree. I don't think anyone else has to like it. I do, however, think people should try listening to some of it before they labeled it all as "crap."
It sucks.
Hard.
Again, the other forum I say a statement on caused a lot of stir... Sorry, with the server down for so long, I forgot how open minded and laid back BF2s forum members are... lolThe_Mac wrote:
Does the nature of the OP and the following posts even remotely something focussed around a serious, intellectual topic?
If all songs that were in the "Cristian genera" sounded like this I'd be a hardcore fan. But sadly, because they dont, Im just a plain ol' junglist.
Small selection of Christian bands:
Red
Skillet
more Skillet
Seventh Day Slumber
Day of Fire
Switchfoot
Blindside
Red
Skillet
more Skillet
Seventh Day Slumber
Day of Fire
Switchfoot
Blindside
I wouldn't care, I just wouldn't play it.
Not that I'm trying to single out this in particular - I don't enjoy musical games at all.
Not that I'm trying to single out this in particular - I don't enjoy musical games at all.
What strikes me as weird is why "Christian Rock" groups feel the need to differentiate themselves so much from regular rock. Yes, you're singing about God, we get it. Have you tried something else? What other group of artists out there restrict themselves so much in terms of the themes that they're willing to explore? There are a few, the balladeers and boybands of the world also churn out the same repetitive themes over and over, for example.
I can understand wanting to express your faith through song, but is there any real need to self-segregate and do it exclusively? Surely it'd be better to not make such a big deal out of what you're doing and simply do it. Let people listen to the lyrics and figure it out for themselves. If your music is good, then people will listen and the message will get through. I'm bad with lyrics, it usually takes me a long time and many hearings of a song before I can really start to examine exactly what's being said, but if a song has good music and is well sung, I'll give it that time. Evenescances' "Tourniquet" was one I listened to over and over and then suddenly realised "Hey, this is all Christian-like", which is pretty fucking obvious if you think about it. But because I liked the song, I kept listening until I got it.
Personal preference, I think that musicians with an agenda should stop talking about their agenda and play some decent music. That doesn't just apply to Christian Rock, I think it'd be great for Bono to shut the hell up and release a decent record for a change too.
Having strayed vastly from the original topic, I'll throw my two cents into that too: For someone to say "I'd like a Guitar Hero disk with my favourite songs on it" and to get abuse for it is a joke, it doesn't matter what they wanted to listen to. Christian Rock is still at least quite like regular rock, musically if not lyrically, so it works in the guitar playing format of the game. So does Country, though, lots of guitar in there too. Would someone have gotten the same response if they'd asked for a Guitar Hero version of Garth Brooks' Greatest Hits? What about a mariachi Guitar Hero?
Obviously the sticking point for the people who got pissed off was the religion aspect, but as people have already pointed out, all the guy was looking for was a disk for himself, with music he liked. There was no attempt to force religion on anyone, unless he also threated to come around their house and force them to play at gun-point. In any case, maybe the music he was after would make for a decent challenge in the game? Just because you may not be a fan of the tune doesn't mean it wouldn't be a tough, enjoyable challenge to play out on the games controller. For example, you could be crazy and not like this, but wouldn't it be cool if you were a fan of the game and could still do this?
I probably wouldn't buy a Christian Rock Guitar Hero, no, but if they released one I wouldn't see any reason to be annoyed, unless they'd ignored other musical genres that could be more worthy of attention first.
I can understand wanting to express your faith through song, but is there any real need to self-segregate and do it exclusively? Surely it'd be better to not make such a big deal out of what you're doing and simply do it. Let people listen to the lyrics and figure it out for themselves. If your music is good, then people will listen and the message will get through. I'm bad with lyrics, it usually takes me a long time and many hearings of a song before I can really start to examine exactly what's being said, but if a song has good music and is well sung, I'll give it that time. Evenescances' "Tourniquet" was one I listened to over and over and then suddenly realised "Hey, this is all Christian-like", which is pretty fucking obvious if you think about it. But because I liked the song, I kept listening until I got it.
Personal preference, I think that musicians with an agenda should stop talking about their agenda and play some decent music. That doesn't just apply to Christian Rock, I think it'd be great for Bono to shut the hell up and release a decent record for a change too.
Having strayed vastly from the original topic, I'll throw my two cents into that too: For someone to say "I'd like a Guitar Hero disk with my favourite songs on it" and to get abuse for it is a joke, it doesn't matter what they wanted to listen to. Christian Rock is still at least quite like regular rock, musically if not lyrically, so it works in the guitar playing format of the game. So does Country, though, lots of guitar in there too. Would someone have gotten the same response if they'd asked for a Guitar Hero version of Garth Brooks' Greatest Hits? What about a mariachi Guitar Hero?
Obviously the sticking point for the people who got pissed off was the religion aspect, but as people have already pointed out, all the guy was looking for was a disk for himself, with music he liked. There was no attempt to force religion on anyone, unless he also threated to come around their house and force them to play at gun-point. In any case, maybe the music he was after would make for a decent challenge in the game? Just because you may not be a fan of the tune doesn't mean it wouldn't be a tough, enjoyable challenge to play out on the games controller. For example, you could be crazy and not like this, but wouldn't it be cool if you were a fan of the game and could still do this?
I probably wouldn't buy a Christian Rock Guitar Hero, no, but if they released one I wouldn't see any reason to be annoyed, unless they'd ignored other musical genres that could be more worthy of attention first.