Jesus! he's right! God must exist!!1!!!11!Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
From a Darwinian viewpoint wouldn`t homosexuality be a dead end ...and how does evolution account for it?
/converts to Christianity
Poll
What is Homosexuality?
| A genetic condition | 28% | 28% - 82 | ||||
| A personal choice | 36% | 36% - 104 | ||||
| A mental disorder | 26% | 26% - 75 | ||||
| Other | 9% | 9% - 27 | ||||
| Total: 288 | ||||||
/converts to Christianity
Who taught you the concept of evolution? Jerry Falwell?Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
From a Darwinian viewpoint wouldn`t homosexuality be a dead end ...and how does evolution account for it?
Evolution doesn't prevent all anomalies from occurring. It just means that certain things get weeded out through time.
Homosexuality doesn't really apply here because it can result from environmental factors. If it was purely genetic 100% of the time, then you'd have a valid point.
really he is just arguing that it cant be genetic which is a fair assesment as you cant exactly pass it on.Turquoise wrote:
Who taught you the concept of evolution? Jerry Falwell?Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
From a Darwinian viewpoint wouldn`t homosexuality be a dead end ...and how does evolution account for it?
Evolution doesn't prevent all anomalies from occurring. It just means that certain things get weeded out through time.
Homosexuality doesn't really apply here because it can result from environmental factors. If it was purely genetic 100% of the time, then you'd have a valid point.
I read a report on the hunt for the "gay gene" concluding that homosexuality is not a genetic "disorder" or mutation but is due to environmental factors around the age of 4.
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If there was a 'gay gene' (and I don't believe there is) why would it have survived in western cultures? Religion. By repressing homosexuals and therefore making them stick to heterosexual coupling it would allow the 'gay gene' to happily continue. Most likely it's an environmental thing that develops as you do in your early years.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
really he is just arguing that it cant be genetic which is a fair assesment as you cant exactly pass it on.Turquoise wrote:
Who taught you the concept of evolution? Jerry Falwell?Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
From a Darwinian viewpoint wouldn`t homosexuality be a dead end ...and how does evolution account for it?
Evolution doesn't prevent all anomalies from occurring. It just means that certain things get weeded out through time.
Homosexuality doesn't really apply here because it can result from environmental factors. If it was purely genetic 100% of the time, then you'd have a valid point.
I read a report on the hunt for the "gay gene" concluding that homosexuality is not a genetic "disorder" or mutation but is due to environmental factors around the age of 4.
Halle Berry: Hi, do you wanna fuck me?
Personal Choice Gay: Geez, if you would have asked that yesterday I would've accepted, but today I choose to suck a dick.
Personal Choice Gay: Geez, if you would have asked that yesterday I would've accepted, but today I choose to suck a dick.
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The "gay gene" could be a combination of common genes in coincidence. The conventional thinking that there is a gene for every trait is wrong, genes serve different purposes when in the presence of different genes. They work as one compact system.PureFodder wrote:
If there was a 'gay gene' (and I don't believe there is) why would it have survived in western cultures? Religion. By repressing homosexuals and therefore making them stick to heterosexual coupling it would allow the 'gay gene' to happily continue. Most likely it's an environmental thing that develops as you do in your early years.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
really he is just arguing that it cant be genetic which is a fair assesment as you cant exactly pass it on.Turquoise wrote:
Who taught you the concept of evolution? Jerry Falwell?
Evolution doesn't prevent all anomalies from occurring. It just means that certain things get weeded out through time.
Homosexuality doesn't really apply here because it can result from environmental factors. If it was purely genetic 100% of the time, then you'd have a valid point.
I read a report on the hunt for the "gay gene" concluding that homosexuality is not a genetic "disorder" or mutation but is due to environmental factors around the age of 4.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/busin … AQePHh87HQ
I think we're all born with varying degrees of the natural instinct that attracts us to different things. So in that sense, the LGBT lobby's "belief" (not science) that you can be "born" gay has some validity. But i also believe that your lifetime leading up to your first sexual attraction behaviors are shaped by what you've learned (seeing mommy and daddy being affectionate in front of you, learning from them where "it" goes and why, and from (hopefully) the majority of how people talk about heterosexuality being the way to go, etc....those things are just as much of an influence to chose between the correct hole. Personally, I don't think it takes any more than mere influence to chose between sexual orientation..but that's just me, I've got it easy being heavily attracted to my wife....not to mention the mountain of other influence and natural tendancy to go with it. But to humor the homos...I believe that you do have a choice, 100%.
So, you think that a kid raised by a couple of gays has more chances of being gay than a kid raised by mom and dad. Is this correct?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think we're all born with varying degrees of the natural instinct that attracts us to different things. So in that sense, the LGBT lobby's "belief" (not science) that you can be "born" gay has some validity. But i also believe that your lifetime leading up to your first sexual attraction behaviors are shaped by what you've learned (seeing mommy and daddy being affectionate in front of you, learning from them where "it" goes and why, and from (hopefully) the majority of how people talk about heterosexuality being the way to go, etc....those things are just as much of an influence to chose between the correct hole. Personally, I don't think it takes any more than mere influence to chose between sexual orientation..but that's just me, I've got it easy being heavily attracted to my wife....not to mention the mountain of other influence and natural tendancy to go with it. But to humor the homos...I believe that you do have a choice, 100%.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1365388sergeriver wrote:
So, you think that a kid raised by a couple of gays has more chances of being gay than a kid raised by mom and dad. Is this correct?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think we're all born with varying degrees of the natural instinct that attracts us to different things. So in that sense, the LGBT lobby's "belief" (not science) that you can be "born" gay has some validity. But i also believe that your lifetime leading up to your first sexual attraction behaviors are shaped by what you've learned (seeing mommy and daddy being affectionate in front of you, learning from them where "it" goes and why, and from (hopefully) the majority of how people talk about heterosexuality being the way to go, etc....those things are just as much of an influence to chose between the correct hole. Personally, I don't think it takes any more than mere influence to chose between sexual orientation..but that's just me, I've got it easy being heavily attracted to my wife....not to mention the mountain of other influence and natural tendancy to go with it. But to humor the homos...I believe that you do have a choice, 100%.
American Psychological Association wrote:
Sexual Orientation. A number of investigators have also studied a third component of sexual identity, sexual orientation (Bailey, Bobrow, Wolfe, & Mickach, 1995; Bozett, 1980, 1987, 1989; Gottman, 1990; Golombok & Tasker, 1996; Green, 1978; Huggins, 1989; Miller, 1979; Paul, 1986; Rees, 1979; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). In all studies, the great majority of offspring of both lesbian mothers and gay fathers described themselves as heterosexual. Taken together, the data do not suggest elevated rates of homosexuality among the offspring of lesbian or gay parents.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications … ldren.html
There was an article in the news earlier talking about how it might be genetic. But I don't believe that.
Let me try - humans are one species that can have sex for purposes other than procreation.CommieChipmunk wrote:
Jesus! he's right! God must exist!!1!!!11!Comrade Ogilvy wrote:
From a Darwinian viewpoint wouldn`t homosexuality be a dead end ...and how does evolution account for it?
/converts to Christianity
And to prove that I know a lot of unnecessary trivia, a few species that have gay sex:
-Most notably Geese
-Certain fish
-Dolphins
-Frogs
-Snakes
-Wolves
-and My neighbor's 15 year old poodle regularly rapes my much larger basset hound. Yes, my dog is gay but the therapy is working.
Actually, i was saying, in reference to "influence" that a child watching their mother and father show affection towards each other was indeed "influence" that would indicate heterosexuality as being preferred. A child has to learn what their "normal" is. If they see heterosexual behavior more than homosexual behavior, the influence of the one more seen will become their normal. Doesn't mean they'll stay with what they perceive as normal, just means the influence is there.sergeriver wrote:
So, you think that a kid raised by a couple of gays has more chances of being gay than a kid raised by mom and dad. Is this correct?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think we're all born with varying degrees of the natural instinct that attracts us to different things. So in that sense, the LGBT lobby's "belief" (not science) that you can be "born" gay has some validity. But i also believe that your lifetime leading up to your first sexual attraction behaviors are shaped by what you've learned (seeing mommy and daddy being affectionate in front of you, learning from them where "it" goes and why, and from (hopefully) the majority of how people talk about heterosexuality being the way to go, etc....those things are just as much of an influence to chose between the correct hole. Personally, I don't think it takes any more than mere influence to chose between sexual orientation..but that's just me, I've got it easy being heavily attracted to my wife....not to mention the mountain of other influence and natural tendancy to go with it. But to humor the homos...I believe that you do have a choice, 100%.
The poodle is probably doing it to assert dominance.Pug wrote:
My neighbor's 15 year old poodle regularly rapes my much larger basset hound. Yes, my dog is gay but the therapy is working.
I still don´t get why 78 members voted a personal choice?
37% of the votes!!!
Who are you people? I´d like to know!
Do you really and I mean really think that you choose who to fall in love with????
I´m stunned!!!!
37% of the votes!!!
Who are you people? I´d like to know!
Do you really and I mean really think that you choose who to fall in love with????
I´m stunned!!!!
nuff said.david363 wrote:
its fucking sick thats what it is
If you don't choose who you fall in love with, who does? Also, love and sex are two very different things.tjocka_vita_kisset wrote:
I still don´t get why 78 members voted a personal choice?
37% of the votes!!!
Who are you people? I´d like to know!
Do you really and I mean really think that you choose who to fall in love with????
I´m stunned!!!!
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You don't choose who you fall in love with, you just fall in love. I didn't choose to fall in love with my wife.Stingray24 wrote:
If you don't choose who you fall in love with, who does? Also, love and sex are two very different things.tjocka_vita_kisset wrote:
I still don´t get why 78 members voted a personal choice?
37% of the votes!!!
Who are you people? I´d like to know!
Do you really and I mean really think that you choose who to fall in love with????
I´m stunned!!!!
i dont care if somebody gay or not but stay away my back door xD lol
Keep it closed and you'll do fine.k.one wrote:
i dont care if somebody gay or not but stay away my back door xD lol
Woah - where did this thread come from. Seems like Cubefreak666 did a search for the word 'homosexuality'... hmmmm.
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Sgt.River decided to resurrect this gay topic (literally)CameronPoe wrote:
Woah - where did this thread come from.
Gay people spoiled Christina Aguilera's "beautiful" music video. I can't stand to see it now.
Other than that I'm fine. I tend to think of it as breast feeding. Just not in public please.
Other than that I'm fine. I tend to think of it as breast feeding. Just not in public please.
I didn't bring it back.Mek-Izzle wrote:
Sgt.River decided to resurrect this gay topic (literally)CameronPoe wrote:
Woah - where did this thread come from.
See, I don't get that logic. What makes you think you can decide what is OK and not OK in public? I don't care if people breastfeed, kiss, or whatever in public, and why should you? You don't have to watch.jord wrote:
Other than that I'm fine. I tend to think of it as breast feeding. Just not in public please.
Various reasons. The only one I need to list is that I don't want to see it. That's why you can't have sex in public. Or run around naked.SenorToenails wrote:
See, I don't get that logic. What makes you think you can decide what is OK and not OK in public? I don't care if people breastfeed, kiss, or whatever in public, and why should you? You don't have to watch.jord wrote:
Other than that I'm fine. I tend to think of it as breast feeding. Just not in public please.