Prime example right here.stef10 wrote:
lol, I laugh at humanity - We are so dumb and arrogant.
Palestinians did so?sergeriver wrote:
Israel must halt all settlement activity and the Palestinians must rein in militants.
I will show you what Pales think about holy places for Christianity...sergeriver wrote:
What about the holy places for Christianity?
Neither side is fulfilling its obligations.Lisik wrote:
Palestinians did so?
Not really, I'm not a Christian so I couldn't give a crap, but you're right, its not a fair fight.So if Israel is laughing on you, Palestinians is simply pissing on you!
Good post. Merry Chirstmas/Happy Hanukkah Lisik.Dilbert_X wrote:
Neither side is fulfilling its obligations.Lisik wrote:
Palestinians did so?
Palestine is a hopeless mess of refugees forced from their rightful place.
Israel claims to be a modern democracy - the world expects better, not a slap in the face and laughter while they are claiming to be negotiating for peace.Not really, I'm not a Christian so I couldn't give a crap, but you're right, its not a fair fight.So if Israel is laughing on you, Palestinians is simply pissing on you!
I vote we give Palestine $6bn in military aid every year and see if they fight cleaner.
It sucks that kids got killed... but wtf were they doing surrounding a car with dead terrorists inside... I wouldn't be anywhere near that area...darenot wrote:
Not sure if that was posted here before. Some insights on whats happening there. Comes in Part 1 to 5. TBH, watching this video made me pissed with how the Israel military are doing.
Which Neither side will do. So why just blame Israel?sergeriver wrote:
According to the plan, Israel must halt all settlement activity and the Palestinians must rein in militants.san4 wrote:
Actually, does anyone know the likely fate of those settlements in a final peace agreement? I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing those settlements are virtually guaranteed to end up part of Israel. I'm also guessing that everyone--including Palestinian negotiators--has always accepted that those particular settlements will ultimately end up part of Israel. If that's the case, building new homes there will not change anything and the controversy is pure PR.
That said, even though it may be meaningless, it's still a dumb provocation.
I thought all the Palestinian militants has stopped for the duration of the talks. I remember laughing at the statement they made, which was something along the lines of "We have stopped all attacks for the duration of the talks. When the talks are over, normal activity can resume." - which doesn't show much faith by them that the talks will work, but suggests they have at least stopped blowing stuff up while peace talks are in progress.CC-Marley wrote:
Which Neither side will do. So why just blame Israel?sergeriver wrote:
According to the plan, Israel must halt all settlement activity and the Palestinians must rein in militants.san4 wrote:
Actually, does anyone know the likely fate of those settlements in a final peace agreement? I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing those settlements are virtually guaranteed to end up part of Israel. I'm also guessing that everyone--including Palestinian negotiators--has always accepted that those particular settlements will ultimately end up part of Israel. If that's the case, building new homes there will not change anything and the controversy is pure PR.
That said, even though it may be meaningless, it's still a dumb provocation.
If some Palestinian extremist nutjob threw a rocket I'd condemn him too.CC-Marley wrote:
Which Neither side will do. So why just blame Israel?sergeriver wrote:
According to the plan, Israel must halt all settlement activity and the Palestinians must rein in militants.san4 wrote:
Actually, does anyone know the likely fate of those settlements in a final peace agreement? I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing those settlements are virtually guaranteed to end up part of Israel. I'm also guessing that everyone--including Palestinian negotiators--has always accepted that those particular settlements will ultimately end up part of Israel. If that's the case, building new homes there will not change anything and the controversy is pure PR.
That said, even though it may be meaningless, it's still a dumb provocation.
Thanks for increasing my hatred for Israel.darenot wrote:
Not sure if that was posted here before. Some insights on whats happening there. Comes in Part 1 to 5. TBH, watching this video made me pissed with how the Israel military are doing.
We already know mr AuschwitzAutralianChainsaw wrote:
Thanks for increasing my hatred for Israel.
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You don't think they'll get away with it?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Im laughing at Israel
Long term, they could be in a whole load of trouble.konfusion wrote:
You don't think they'll get away with it?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Im laughing at Israel
-konfusion
pfft... if anything it is the United States holding them back.Dilbert_X wrote:
Long term, when the US can no longer support and defend them, Israel will cease to exist.
I give them 50 yrs max.
All out nuclear war between Israel and Iran: a doomsday scenario that we all fear deeply. A new study compiled by the US Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), headed by former Pentagon analyst Anthony H. Cordesman, explored just such a nightmare scenario, noting that it could lead to the death of between 16- 28 million Iranian civilians, and 200-800 thousand Israelis…
Given certain conditions, Israel could potentially survive such a nuclear scenario, the study found. Iran, on the other hand, would be completely and utterly obliterated. “Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of term, though Israeli recovery is theoretically possible in population and economic terms,” wrote Cordesman, who compiled this study entitled “Iran, Israel, and Nuclear War”…
The bottom line, according to this study, is that Israel quite simply has more potent and effective bombs. Israel currently has a 1megaton (mt) nuclear bomb, whereas Iran does not yet have the ability to develop a bomb with more than 100 kilotons of power. What this means, in essence, is that the Israeli bomb can lead to three times as many casualties as its Iranian counterpart (chiefly due to third-degree burns), and has an “area of extreme lethality” (the range within which a nuclear bomb is fatal) ten-times as great…
Cordseman also noted that Iran would have lower fission yields, and less accurate force into cluster targeting on Israel’s two largest urban complexes, and that the Iranian side would also most likely be thwarted by Israel’s missile defense systems. Notable among these is the “Arrow 2” anti-ballistic missile which could most potentially shoot down most nuclear missiles launched by Iran.
The World is scared of Iran having nukes, and then this study says that Israel could kill 20 million Iranians with their nukes. This study was made either to scare Iran or to open the World eyes about the risks of Israel having nukes.Kmarion wrote:
pfft... if anything it is the United States holding them back.Dilbert_X wrote:
Long term, when the US can no longer support and defend them, Israel will cease to exist.
I give them 50 yrs max.
As far as the future. Hunker down if you are in the ME.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 … 11,00.htmlAll out nuclear war between Israel and Iran: a doomsday scenario that we all fear deeply. A new study compiled by the US Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), headed by former Pentagon analyst Anthony H. Cordesman, explored just such a nightmare scenario, noting that it could lead to the death of between 16- 28 million Iranian civilians, and 200-800 thousand Israelis…
Given certain conditions, Israel could potentially survive such a nuclear scenario, the study found. Iran, on the other hand, would be completely and utterly obliterated. “Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of term, though Israeli recovery is theoretically possible in population and economic terms,” wrote Cordesman, who compiled this study entitled “Iran, Israel, and Nuclear War”…
The bottom line, according to this study, is that Israel quite simply has more potent and effective bombs. Israel currently has a 1megaton (mt) nuclear bomb, whereas Iran does not yet have the ability to develop a bomb with more than 100 kilotons of power. What this means, in essence, is that the Israeli bomb can lead to three times as many casualties as its Iranian counterpart (chiefly due to third-degree burns), and has an “area of extreme lethality” (the range within which a nuclear bomb is fatal) ten-times as great…
Cordseman also noted that Iran would have lower fission yields, and less accurate force into cluster targeting on Israel’s two largest urban complexes, and that the Iranian side would also most likely be thwarted by Israel’s missile defense systems. Notable among these is the “Arrow 2” anti-ballistic missile which could most potentially shoot down most nuclear missiles launched by Iran.
Exactly, Iran would be turned into a glass crater. Iran would be committing suicide if they ever nuked Israeli.Kmarion wrote:
pfft... if anything it is the United States holding them back.Dilbert_X wrote:
Long term, when the US can no longer support and defend them, Israel will cease to exist.
I give them 50 yrs max.
As far as the future. Hunker down if you are in the ME.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 … 11,00.htmlAll out nuclear war between Israel and Iran: a doomsday scenario that we all fear deeply. A new study compiled by the US Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), headed by former Pentagon analyst Anthony H. Cordesman, explored just such a nightmare scenario, noting that it could lead to the death of between 16- 28 million Iranian civilians, and 200-800 thousand Israelis…
Given certain conditions, Israel could potentially survive such a nuclear scenario, the study found. Iran, on the other hand, would be completely and utterly obliterated. “Iranian recovery is not possible in the normal sense of term, though Israeli recovery is theoretically possible in population and economic terms,” wrote Cordesman, who compiled this study entitled “Iran, Israel, and Nuclear War”…
The bottom line, according to this study, is that Israel quite simply has more potent and effective bombs. Israel currently has a 1megaton (mt) nuclear bomb, whereas Iran does not yet have the ability to develop a bomb with more than 100 kilotons of power. What this means, in essence, is that the Israeli bomb can lead to three times as many casualties as its Iranian counterpart (chiefly due to third-degree burns), and has an “area of extreme lethality” (the range within which a nuclear bomb is fatal) ten-times as great…
Cordseman also noted that Iran would have lower fission yields, and less accurate force into cluster targeting on Israel’s two largest urban complexes, and that the Iranian side would also most likely be thwarted by Israel’s missile defense systems. Notable among these is the “Arrow 2” anti-ballistic missile which could most potentially shoot down most nuclear missiles launched by Iran.
Kinda like the Soviet Union and US have ceased to exist because of Mutually Assured Destruction.Dilbert_X wrote:
They'll both be wiped out through MAD.
Anyway, this thread was about Israel taking a dump on the peace process.
Given the above posts it would be worthwhile for them to start to take it seriously.
Exactly, its unlikely to happen - so they might as well get on and try to live in peace, rather than stealing yet more bits of Palestine while paying lip service to the 'peace process'.Kinda like the Soviet Union and US have ceased to exist because of Mutually Assured Destruction.
