Is Human Life More Valuable than Animal Life?

2007-12-26 14:29:16

#1

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

I know this will start a "are you out of your mind asshole?" chain reaction. But the thing is after reading what you guys thought about the tiger that was shot dead at SF, I noticed that most of you think that human life is more valuable than animal life. And I don't share. I consider mankind to be the most disgusting species on Earth. We've almost destroyed our planet, most ecosystems are screwed, and because of that most animals are endangered or facing extinction within the next century.

Why is it that you consider a human life more valuable than a tiger's life. How many humans are in the World? 6,5 billion. How many tigers? A few thousand. How many whales? A few thousand. How many elephants? A few thousand. How many orangutans? A few thousand. How do you measure the value of a life? Just because we can talk and travel to the space, it doesn't mean we are superior. In fact, we did more bad than good to our planet and to the other life forms we share it with. So what God put us in this imaginary pedestal? Are we that worthy? I don't think so.

2007-12-26 14:31:32

#2

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6958|...

Humans are animals. Are wolfs more valuable than foxes?

2007-12-26 14:31:57

#3

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7017|SE London

Yes, absolutely, 100%.

Sentience is the big issue here and animals are not sentient.

2007-12-26 14:32:39

#4

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

jsnipy wrote:
Humans are animals. Are wolfs more valuable than foxes?

Don't tell me, tell that to the people arguing that humans are more valuable.

2007-12-26 14:33:13

#5

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6929|N. Ireland

We're the dominant species. It really doesn't matter who is right or who is not, we have evolved (through force, yes) and have taken over the world. Are we worthy? Maybe not. Are we dominant? Yes.

2007-12-26 14:34:30

#6

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

Bertster7 wrote:
Yes, absolutely, 100%.

Sentience is the big issue here and animals are not sentient.

A dolphin isn't sentient? A whale? An orangutan? A gorilla? I think you don't know much about animals.

2007-12-26 14:36:00

#7

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|7007|USA

it depends on what you mean. seeing as this is bf2s and you are serge, i assume you mean idealogically. a person, because it is intelligent, is worth more than a tiger which thinks only eat drink sleep stay alive reproduce don't die.

however, if you mean ecologically, they are equal in value, discounting the shit today's man is spewing into the world. both occupy a needed niche and the world would collapse ecologically (in theory; in actuality either the single ecosystem would collapse or some other creature would rush to fill its place) if it were to disappear.

but concerning the sf tiger, they had no choice. they didnt kill it for attacking the men it attacked, the police killed it because it was rounding on them. had the tiger been subdueable in all likelihood it would have been put down, but they should have taken it to a preserve or something.

2007-12-26 14:42:21

#8

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

people first, what kind of ass backward species would we be if we put others before our own?

2007-12-26 14:42:55

#9

Master*: Banned; +416|6930|United States

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people first, what kind of ass backward species would we be if we put others before our own?

Ever hear of PETA?

2007-12-26 14:44:06

#10

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people first, what kind of ass backward species would we be if we put others before our own?

A decent one?

2007-12-26 14:44:07

#11

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

as I finish my cheeseburger. yes.

2007-12-26 14:44:34

#12

TSI: Cholera in the time of love; +247|6416|Toronto

we have bf2+bf2s. other species don't.
/thread.

I like pie.

2007-12-26 14:45:13

#13

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people first, what kind of ass backward species would we be if we put others before our own?
A decent one?

more like one that wouldnt have survived evolution

2007-12-26 14:47:47

#14

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people first, what kind of ass backward species would we be if we put others before our own?
A decent one?
more like one that wouldnt have survived evolution

We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.

2007-12-26 14:48:50

#15

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

hmmmm

ill let someone else handle that one

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2007-12-26 14:55:35

#16

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|7006|Portland, OR, USA

I struggled with this question for a while, and ultimately, after having pets and watching them develop their own unique personalities I think that while many animals don't have the intellectual capabilities that we do, they sure has hell have feelings enough to be treated decently. I don't think that cows, chickens or pigs should be horded into confined areas for their relatively short life and then slaughtered so that I can eat them (I would only agree with eating meat if I raised, killed and cooked the animal, I think that industrialized slaughter is disgusting). I also don't think it's right to have animals in small cages on display at zoos, or monkeys stuck in tiny cages being tested on in research hospitals... but I don't have any control over those things so there's really nothing I can do (except not eat meat...) In the end, vegetarianism ftw...

In my book, a life's a life whether it's a salamander, ape or human.

sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
sergeriver wrote:

A decent one?
more like one that wouldnt have survived evolution
We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.

Opposable thumbs

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2007-12-26 14:57:16

#17

deeznutz1245: Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.; +483|6928|Connecticut

yes

Malloy must go

2007-12-26 14:59:21

#18

deeznutz1245: Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.; +483|6928|Connecticut

sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
sergeriver wrote:

A decent one?
more like one that wouldnt have survived evolution
We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.

Right. It hand nothing to do with our intellect or ability to process and comprehend better than any other living species. We emerged at the top of the food chain because we jammed our thumbs in our prey's butt.

Malloy must go

2007-12-26 15:01:37

#19

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

CommieChipmunk wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.
Opposable thumbs

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Since we used "pulgares opuestos" in Spanish, I thought it was opposite thumbs in English, my bad.

2007-12-26 15:02:55

#20

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

deeznutz1245 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
more like one that wouldnt have survived evolution
We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.
Right. It hand nothing to do with our intellect or ability to process and comprehend better than any other living species. We emerged at the top of the food chain because we jammed our thumbs in our prey's butt.

In fact we could develope our intellect because of our opposable or opposite or whatever it's spelt thumbs.

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2007-12-26 15:05:26

#21

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|7145|England. Stoke

So if you were confronted with a situation where you had to chose whether to save a small child or a tiger cub, which would you choose?

2007-12-26 15:06:42

#22

(T)eflon(S)hadow: R.I.P. Neda; +456|7265|Grapevine, TX

Yup. It is.

sarge I do appreciate your threads.... Just wondering if you will ever make a thread with out a post-thread?

2007-12-26 15:08:29

#23

CommieChipmunk: Member; +488|7006|Portland, OR, USA

sergeriver wrote:
deeznutz1245 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:

We survived evolution because we developed opposite thumbs. Big deal.
Right. It hand nothing to do with our intellect or ability to process and comprehend better than any other living species. We emerged at the top of the food chain because we jammed our thumbs in our prey's butt.
In fact we could develope our intellect because of our opposable or opposite or whatever it's said thumbs.

I don't think that intellectual abilities spawned out of the fact that we can bend our thumbs--monkeys can bend their thumbs too. Many people think that we evolved from monkeys, but that's not really correct. We share a similar ancestor with monkeys but the evolutionary path hit a Y and we each went our separate ways. Something made us superior to them (intellectually) and I don't think it was the thumb.

But just because we are "smarter" than primates doesn't mean that we should treat them like dirt.

2007-12-26 15:17:25

#24

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|7120|United States of America

Bertster7 wrote:
Yes, absolutely, 100%.

Sentience is the big issue here and animals are not sentient.

Winnrar up thar.

jsnipy wrote:
Humans are animals. Are wolfs more valuable than foxes?

No, not by a long shot. Foxes are far, far better than wolves. You know why? The "x" makes it sounds cool.

2007-12-26 15:22:27

#25

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

DesertFox- wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Yes, absolutely, 100%.

Sentience is the big issue here and animals are not sentient.
Winnrar up thar.

jsnipy wrote:
Humans are animals. Are wolfs more valuable than foxes?
No, not by a long shot. Foxes are far, far better than wolves. You know why? The "x" makes it sounds cool.

That's why you call a hot girl a fox.

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No, all creatures are valuable	24%	24% - 41
No, endangered species are more valuable	4%	4% - 7
No, animal life is more valuable	7%	7% - 12
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