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New York Times wrote:

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — After the United States has spent more than $5 billion in a largely failed effort to bolster the Pakistani military effort against Al Qaeda and the Taliban, some American officials now acknowledge that there were too few controls over the money. The strategy to improve the Pakistani military, they said, needs to be completely revamped.
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In interviews in Islamabad and Washington, Bush administration and military officials said they believed that much of the American money was not making its way to frontline Pakistani units. Money has been diverted to help finance weapons systems designed to counter India, not Al Qaeda or the Taliban, the officials said, adding that the United States has paid tens of millions of dollars in inflated Pakistani reimbursement claims for fuel, ammunition and other costs.

“I personally believe there is exaggeration and inflation,” said a senior American military official who has reviewed the program, referring to Pakistani requests for reimbursement. “Then, I point back to the United States and say we didn’t have to give them money this way.”

Pakistani officials say they are incensed at what they see as American ingratitude for Pakistani counterterrorism efforts that have left about 1,000 Pakistani soldiers and police officers dead. They deny that any overcharging has occurred.

The $5 billion was provided through a program known as Coalition Support Funds, which reimburses Pakistan for conducting military operations to fight terrorism. Under a separate program, Pakistan receives $300 million per year in traditional American military financing that pays for equipment and training.

Civilian opponents of President Pervez Musharraf say he used the reimbursements to prop up his government. One European diplomat in Islamabad said the United States should have been more cautious with its aid.

“I wonder if the Americans have not been taken for a ride,” said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Lawmakers in Washington voted Thursday to put restrictions on the $300 million in military financing, and withheld $50 million of that money until Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice certifies that Islamabad has been restoring democratic rights since Mr. Musharraf lifted a state of emergency on Dec. 16. The measure had little effect on the far larger Coalition Support Funds reimbursements.

While it was a modest first step, any new conditions in aid could have a major effect on relations between the United States and Pakistan. Pakistan’s military relies on Washington for roughly a quarter of its entire $4 billion budget.

In interviews, American and Pakistani officials acknowledged that they had never agreed on the strategic goals that should drive how the money was spent, or how the Pakistanis would prove that they were performing up to American expectations.

After Six Years, a Plan

Early last week, six years after President Bush first began pouring billions of dollars into Pakistan’s military after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Pentagon completed a review that produced a classified plan to help the Pakistani military build an effective counterinsurgency force.

The plan, which now goes to the United States Embassy in Islamabad to carry out, seeks to focus American military aid toward specific equipment and training for Pakistani forces operating in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas where Qaeda leaders and local militants hold sway.

For their part, Pakistani officials angrily accused the United States of refusing to sell Pakistan the advanced helicopters, reconnaissance aircraft, radios and night-vision equipment it needs.

“There have been many aspects of equipment that we’ve been keen on getting,” said Maj. Gen. Waheed Arshad, the Pakistani military’s chief spokesman. “There have been many delays which have hampered this war against extremists.”

United States military officials said the American military was so overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan that it had no advanced helicopters to give to Pakistan. American law also restricts the export of sophisticated drones, night-vision goggles and other equipment for security reasons.

There is at least one area of agreement. Both sides say the reimbursements have failed substantially to increase the ability of Pakistani forces to mount comprehensive counterinsurgency operations.
What kind of crap is this? They milk our money on the side thinking they can get away with this? Why fund these people? They failed to get Osama when he was in Tora Bora, when we should have sent in our 10th mountain division of course. So much for helping in the war on terror Pakistan, when you're using our money for your cause against India.

Thoughts? Link.

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usmarine
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About time we sent in our own troops.  Good to see the spec forces have been sent in.
M.O.A.B
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Pull all our boys out, then carpet bomb the entire mountain range that the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan lies upon. The hit it with some FAB's, then some napalm or something, in conclusion, waste the place.
Dilbert_X
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They failed to get Osama when he was in Tora Bora, when we should have sent in our 10th mountain division of course.
Yeah funny that. The US govt doesn't want Bin Laden captured.

Pull all our boys out, then carpet bomb the entire mountain range that the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan lies upon. The hit it with some FAB's, then some napalm or something, in conclusion, waste the place.
The US does not have enough bombs or aircraft, plus you need to get the actual people - who are mobile.
Bombing mountains doesn't achieve a whole lot.
Fuck Israel
PZmohax01
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Let them dig their shit themselves? I guess there are some things that this money could be spent on in your own country..
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PZmohax01 wrote:

Let them dig their shit themselves? I guess there are some things that this money could be spent on in your own country..
I'd rather the gov save that money.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

They failed to get Osama when he was in Tora Bora, when we should have sent in our 10th mountain division of course.
Yeah funny that. The US govt doesn't want Bin Laden captured.

Pull all our boys out, then carpet bomb the entire mountain range that the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan lies upon. The hit it with some FAB's, then some napalm or something, in conclusion, waste the place.
The US does not have enough bombs or aircraft, plus you need to get the actual people - who are mobile.
Bombing mountains doesn't achieve a whole lot.
Perhaps, but man it'll look cool its Christmas
Turquoise
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Yeah...  we should keep an eye on Pakistan, but funding them is a mistake.

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