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Was It the right thing to Do?

Yes64%64% - 86
No35%35% - 48
Total: 134
2007-12-26 23:17:52
T1g3r217
Perpetual
+124|6857|My room

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

T1g3r217 wrote:

Corruption rules the world. The more $$$ you have, the more crap you can get away with.
you must be a preteen, or close to it.
Apparently you haven't been out much. Try visiting the rest of the world. People are so poor that they'll do anything for money. Cops in INdia will let criminals go for the equivalent of 4 USD. Or less. Africans still enlave each other to get by on a daily basis. People missing arms or legs peddle their goods in the street to get by. If any of these people broke the smallest rule, they'd be in debt over their heads, and their troubles would compound.

However, if a celebrity did the same thing, he'd pay the fine and go to "jail." Please, no matter what anybody says, we all know that there's a difference between "rich-people-Martha-Stewart" jail and "I'm-a-Bill-Gates-wannabe" jail.

Why don't you try getting out more instead of just sitting back in your chair and typing out half-baked "insults." Get out and see the rest of the world.

You must be an American. Or close to it.

Last edited by T1g3r217 (2007-12-26 23:18:54)

2007-12-26 23:25:26
golgoj4
Member
+51|7209|North Hollywood
Ok, are you rocket scientists REALLY suggesting that the police should have stood down until they had a tranq gun present? Have any of you read ANY accounts of wtf happened? They had no idea if there was one or multiple animals loose and there was the imminent threat of loss of life. Do you want the cops to wait for a tranq gun the next time they have to take down a dangerous criminal? Seriously, you people need some god damned perspective. Im sure its easy to armchair quarterback it now, but you were not there and didnt have to make the decision to either save the kids life of make PETA punks happy.

/rant

debate zoos all you want. Just leave the fucking cops alone and shove your tranq guns up your arse.  No I dont hate animals, but sggesting that the police stand around and let someone get mauled is about the dumbest thing i've heard here to date.

Seriously, everyone is Rambo here, but god forbid your staring at that kitty face to face.
2007-12-26 23:41:43
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6565|North Tonawanda, NY

T1g3r217 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

T1g3r217 wrote:

Corruption rules the world. The more $$$ you have, the more crap you can get away with.
you must be a preteen, or close to it.
Apparently you haven't been out much. Try visiting the rest of the world. People are so poor that they'll do anything for money. Cops in INdia will let criminals go for the equivalent of 4 USD. Or less. Africans still enlave each other to get by on a daily basis. People missing arms or legs peddle their goods in the street to get by. If any of these people broke the smallest rule, they'd be in debt over their heads, and their troubles would compound.

However, if a celebrity did the same thing, he'd pay the fine and go to "jail." Please, no matter what anybody says, we all know that there's a difference between "rich-people-Martha-Stewart" jail and "I'm-a-Bill-Gates-wannabe" jail.

Why don't you try getting out more instead of just sitting back in your chair and typing out half-baked "insults." Get out and see the rest of the world.

You must be an American. Or close to it.
I thought you had a point until I read the last line of your post.  That was a real nice way to destroy any credibility you had.
2007-12-26 23:42:29
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7265|Denver colorado

T1g3r217 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

T1g3r217 wrote:

Corruption rules the world. The more $$$ you have, the more crap you can get away with.
you must be a preteen, or close to it.
Apparently you haven't been out much. Try visiting the rest of the world. People are so poor that they'll do anything for money. Cops in INdia will let criminals go for the equivalent of 4 USD. Or less. Africans still enlave each other to get by on a daily basis. People missing arms or legs peddle their goods in the street to get by. If any of these people broke the smallest rule, they'd be in debt over their heads, and their troubles would compound.

However, if a celebrity did the same thing, he'd pay the fine and go to "jail." Please, no matter what anybody says, we all know that there's a difference between "rich-people-Martha-Stewart" jail and "I'm-a-Bill-Gates-wannabe" jail.

Why don't you try getting out more instead of just sitting back in your chair and typing out half-baked "insults." Get out and see the rest of the world.

You must be an American. Or close to it.
Heil hitler.
2007-12-27 02:59:50
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7192|Argentina

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

um no recon. fail. not true, and learn to spell plz.
and, um no, for the rest of the idiots. I AM AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN! I WILL NOT LOWER MYSELF. EVER.
edit: and FAIL! for serge yet again, deal with the news in your country, discuss your third world bullshit, before discussing ours, plezkthxbye.
You are not at the top of anything, you are way down.  So, thanks for showing I'm right.  A lot of humas are worthless, like you.  First off, you are a spelling Hitler .  Then, you are a bigot.  This episode isn't a US exclusive news you tool, this could have taken place anywhere.  But if you want we can discuss my third world BS.  Way to discuss in a mature way.  Oh, I almost forget it, I ain't mature either, so go fuck yourself.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-12-27 03:30:23)

2007-12-27 03:05:22
belldawg
Serial Jay-Walker
+52|6419|Perth, indian ocean
Great, another Tiger dead, i honestly think they're gonna be extinct within the next 20 years.
2007-12-27 04:20:20
jord
Member
+2,382|7113|The North, beyond the wall.

belldawg wrote:

Great, another Tiger dead, i honestly think they're gonna be extinct within the next 20 years.
Nah you'll always have a few in the reserves.
2007-12-27 08:40:53
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6977|Texas - Bigger than France
I would have to say it's difficult to argue for an animal's rights when you've taken away the animal's rights by putting it in a zoo.

The zoo is at fault:
1) How does a tiger get out?
2) The tiger should have been put down years ago - it had a history.
3) The response time/safety measures required the cops to kill it.  Doesn't matter however, as it should have been killed years ago anyway.

But I'm going to stick with it's hypocritical to argue against shooting a tiger when a zoo is unnatural as it gets.

Zoos are cool though.
2007-12-27 11:53:20
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7079

T1g3r217 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

T1g3r217 wrote:

Corruption rules the world. The more $$$ you have, the more crap you can get away with.
you must be a preteen, or close to it.
Apparently you haven't been out much. Try visiting the rest of the world. People are so poor that they'll do anything for money. Cops in INdia will let criminals go for the equivalent of 4 USD. Or less. Africans still enlave each other to get by on a daily basis. People missing arms or legs peddle their goods in the street to get by. If any of these people broke the smallest rule, they'd be in debt over their heads, and their troubles would compound.

However, if a celebrity did the same thing, he'd pay the fine and go to "jail." Please, no matter what anybody says, we all know that there's a difference between "rich-people-Martha-Stewart" jail and "I'm-a-Bill-Gates-wannabe" jail.

Why don't you try getting out more instead of just sitting back in your chair and typing out half-baked "insults." Get out and see the rest of the world.

You must be an American. Or close to it.
youre right, never left my house in my life.
2007-12-27 12:30:39
Hakei
Banned
+295|6430

Obiwan wrote:

Tetrino wrote:

Haven't they ever heard of tranquiliser dart rifles?
what he said
Right, even if  the police had a tranq gun, do you have any idea about the delayed reaction? It's not like a bullet to the brain, the tiger wouldn't just keel over and go into a nice sleep, it takes (from what I know) a few minutes for it to kick in, and shooting at the animal is only going to make it more annoyed. What would you suggest after they shot it? Quickly find cover? Run around in circles and hope it misses?
2007-12-27 14:53:27
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6926|Northern California
My local paper had this poll: http://forums.contracostatimes.com/n/mb … ubmit=Vote
asking if the zoo should be closed.

I voted yes, but not for that reason in the poll (it was the only yes option).  My vote for yes is for many reasons..chief among them...their obvious gross negligence in securing the animal, not being able to subdue/stop the animal, and to be an example to other zoo incidents that may happen.

Yep, 1 in a million shot at this kind of thing happening.  Nope, there is no "acceptable limit of animal related killings before it should be shut down" option needed.
2007-12-27 15:00:42
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7067|949

IRONCHEF wrote:

My local paper had this poll: http://forums.contracostatimes.com/n/mb … ubmit=Vote
asking if the zoo should be closed.

I voted yes, but not for that reason in the poll (it was the only yes option).  My vote for yes is for many reasons..chief among them...their obvious gross negligence in securing the animal, not being able to subdue/stop the animal, and to be an example to other zoo incidents that may happen.

Yep, 1 in a million shot at this kind of thing happening.  Nope, there is no "acceptable limit of animal related killings before it should be shut down" option needed.
The zoo should (and will) be held accountable for the actions preceding the death of the tiger.  Regulatory agents from all sorts of city, state, and federal agencies will assess the ability of the zoo employees and guidelines to understand if they are properly equipped to deal with this sort of accident.  Obviously there is a gap in procedure and training that hopefully will be addressed.  Unfortunately in society, tragedy often precedes measures to ensure tragedy doesn't happen.

The city of San Fransisco will likely pay a part of the settlement money.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-12-27 15:10:38)

2007-12-27 15:09:46
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6840|North Carolina
Kill or be killed...  that is the law of the regular jungle and often the concrete one as well.
2007-12-27 15:18:28
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6973|Long Island, New York
Cops should carry tranquilizer darts. I'm a huge animal lover and yes this is sad, but they didn't have them and were forced to kill it before it killed them.

If they had them they'd not only work on animals, but humans too!
2007-12-27 15:20:41
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7067|949

Poseidon wrote:

Cops should carry tranquilizer darts. I'm a huge animal lover and yes this is sad, but they didn't have them and were forced to kill it before it killed them.

If they had them they'd not only work on animals, but humans too!
The cops couldn't use a "one size fits all" dart, so it would mean carrying multiple sizes and perhaps multiple guns.  I think that is just not plausible.
2007-12-27 15:53:15
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7192|Argentina

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Cops should carry tranquilizer darts. I'm a huge animal lover and yes this is sad, but they didn't have them and were forced to kill it before it killed them.

If they had them they'd not only work on animals, but humans too!
The cops couldn't use a "one size fits all" dart, so it would mean carrying multiple sizes and perhaps multiple guns.  I think that is just not plausible.
That's why the zoo is at fault here.  They should have provided the darts, if their vets were busy doing something else.  They will pay a big price for this for sure.  Sadly, a man and a tiger had to die like you said, to take measures.  But this happens all around the world, humans need tragedies to learn.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-12-27 15:53:50)

2007-12-28 01:55:28
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6846|'Murka

The zoo is certainly at fault, but not because they didn't have tranq darts ready to go. It looks like the tiger escaped its compound. If that is the case, you can't expect them to have had a tranq rifle ready to go...there was no reason to. They don't just walk around the zoo with a tranq rifle ready to go for every animal there. The tiger escaping its compound is obviously an unexpected event, hence, they wouldn't have had any reason to have tranqs ready to go. Totally different than if they had been working on its compound...I believe it's SOP to have tranqs ready to go whenever they are dealing with dangerous animals in their compounds.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2007-12-28 02:28:31
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7082
I still don't get how you can feel sorry for the tiger. If all life is precious, including animals(non-human) then why do you feel sorry for tigers, who get their food from killing other animals?
2007-12-28 02:31:36
BlackKoala
Member
+215|6760
BRB let me go to the closet while a tiger is mauling people, I need to go get my darts since a tiger is more important than human lives!!!111oneone!!!111eleven!11
2007-12-28 02:51:24
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6584|'straya
i agree that the zoo screwed up... but once that had happened there was no option but to shoot it really... in a perfect worl the tiger wouldnt have escaped and there would have been zoo keepers with darts on the scene...

but u if u were the cops im sure u would shoot it as well...
2007-12-28 02:54:50
Heavy_Guns_91
I hand out purple hearts like candy
+72|6838|Alberta, Canada

sergeriver wrote:

I know it's sad that a person was killed.  But it's not the tiger's fault, it's a wild animal.  I say fuck you SF zoo.
That's pretty much what I'd have to say about it.
2007-12-28 03:15:14
jord
Member
+2,382|7113|The North, beyond the wall.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Cops should carry tranquilizer darts. I'm a huge animal lover and yes this is sad, but they didn't have them and were forced to kill it before it killed them.

If they had them they'd not only work on animals, but humans too!
The cops couldn't use a "one size fits all" dart, so it would mean carrying multiple sizes and perhaps multiple guns.  I think that is just not plausible.
They don't need to. The Zoo has a responsibility to have a dart for every dangerous animal.
2007-12-28 03:28:50
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6926|Menlo Park, CA
This has been all over the local news as I live in the Bay Area. . .

Summary: The kids fucked with the tiger, the tiger got pissed, somehow the tiger got out and mauled their ass.  In my opinion you fuck with the tiger, you deserve to get the claws!!!!  The cops were stuck between a "rock and a hard place", and did the only thing they could given public safety in mind.   

I feel aweful that another tiger is dead, but again its human stupidity that caused a beautiful animal to meet its death.  Fuck those three shitheads!! If you are too stupid to fuck with a 300 lb tiger, then you deserve the consequences!!

btw that zoo is an absolute toilet (trust me I have been their a dozen plus times).  I personally think they should close the joint and relocate the animals to San Diego or somewhere else where they have more room to run around.

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-12-28 03:31:11)

2007-12-28 03:34:41
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7110|Canberra, AUS

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

um no recon. fail. not true, and learn to spell plz.
and, um no, for the rest of the idiots. I AM AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN! I WILL NOT LOWER MYSELF. EVER.
edit: and FAIL! for serge yet again, deal with the news in your country, discuss your third world bullshit, before discussing ours, plezkthxbye.
Lolwtf?

Probably the stupidest post I've seen here for a long, long time.

And one of the most offensive (well, attempted, anyway. But I think the impact got wayyy lost).
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2007-12-28 03:40:36
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7192|Argentina

FEOS wrote:

The zoo is certainly at fault, but not because they didn't have tranq darts ready to go. It looks like the tiger escaped its compound. If that is the case, you can't expect them to have had a tranq rifle ready to go...there was no reason to. They don't just walk around the zoo with a tranq rifle ready to go for every animal there. The tiger escaping its compound is obviously an unexpected event, hence, they wouldn't have had any reason to have tranqs ready to go. Totally different than if they had been working on its compound...I believe it's SOP to have tranqs ready to go whenever they are dealing with dangerous animals in their compounds.
A fire is an unexpected event, but you know that firemen will show up if one starts.  The tiger scaping its compund was unexpected, but the zoo should have considered this could happen.

 

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