What's right RIGHT and what's WRONG with America, all in one post

2007-12-29 14:27:36

#26

jord: Member; +2,382|7113|The North, beyond the wall.

Right.

A will to do good. Western laws and politics.

Wrong.

The over emphasis on patriotism. Seen it all over, it's like it's drilled into you through TV/Magazine/Books. God bless America, once in a while.

Also, obsession with politics. Before I came here I've never seen anything like it, apart from when I went through Northern Ireland. It's like you're being scanned for your political beliefs constantly. Labels for the loss as well.

2007-12-29 14:30:08

#27

David.P: Banned; +649|6709

CameronPoe wrote:
Extremely Right:

Treating those the way they treated us. Without Mercy and cruelty the same way they killed our citizens in their nations.

FIXED.

Last edited by David.P (2007-12-29 14:30:29)

2007-12-29 14:53:46

#28

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6991

David.P wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Extremely Right:

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/08/2 … 1Gitmo.jpg

Treating those the way they treated us. Without Mercy and cruelty the same way they killed our citizens in their nations.
FIXED.

Perhaps this is why some people take a dim view of Americans, which is unfair as most Americans are intelligent progressive people. You do know that you subjected people who actually turned out to be completely innocent to torture and detainment without trial, don't you? Principles first, ALWAYS.

2007-12-29 15:10:05

#29

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|7079

Right

Cars drive on the correct side.

Wrong

Ron Paul supporters

2007-12-29 15:16:32

#30

PZmohax01: Banned; +13|6413|St.Petersburg, Russia

Right: Jazz, Rock-n-roll, Star Wars, many amazing artists and writers, etc.

Wrong: Politics, politics, politics (but assholes are everywhere anyway)

2007-12-29 15:24:08

#31

apollo_fi: The Flying Kalakukko.; +94|6966|The lunar module

deeznutz1245 wrote:
Pizza man earned his money and he deserves to not give it to thugs. If we as a society honestly believe that we have failed criminals then we have failed at society. Criminals do need to be rehabilitated, I will not disagree with that. However, if they get injured or killed in the process of attempting to muscle innocent, law respecting citizens out of their belongings then they get what they deserve. Remember the government is who is fucking us, not the blue collar private citizen. The criminals should resume cheating on their taxes and collecting welfare for a lifetime and leave his fellow man the fuck alone. +1 for anyone who says "No, I dont take from you so you may not take from me". Regardless of your upbringing, as an adult you can use reason. You can determine what is right and what is wrong. Time to bop the social titty out of criminals mouths and let them pay the price for their actions, even if it is the ultimate one.

I... think I agree with deeznutz for the most part. This was a good post.

Some points I disagree with, though (stricken through).

2007-12-29 15:27:40

#32

PZmohax01: Banned; +13|6413|St.Petersburg, Russia

apollo_fi wrote:

Yurii Gagarin on your avatar lol!

2007-12-29 15:30:53

#33

apollo_fi: The Flying Kalakukko.; +94|6966|The lunar module

PZmohax01 wrote:
apollo_fi wrote:
Yurii Gagarin on your avatar lol!

One of mankind's greatest heroes.

2007-12-29 15:47:52

#34

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7087|USA

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
Whole-hardheartedly agree. Hope I didn't post any misunderstanding with the issue.

nope, none at all

2007-12-29 15:49:12

#35

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7056|London, England

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
Right

Cars drive on the correct side.

Wrong

Ron Paul supporters

no ur the guys driving on the rong side

2007-12-29 15:50:16

#36

David.P: Banned; +649|6709

CameronPoe wrote:
David.P wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Extremely Right:

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/08/2 … 1Gitmo.jpg

Treating those the way they treated us. Without Mercy and cruelty the same way they killed our citizens in their nations.
FIXED.
Perhaps this is why some people take a dim view of Americans, which is unfair as most Americans are intelligent progressive people. You do know that you subjected people who actually turned out to be completely innocent to torture and detainment without trial, don't you? Principles first, ALWAYS.

Right tell that to the guys who had their heads cut off. Oh wait you cant cause they're dead!

2007-12-29 15:51:22

#37

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6991

Another -

Good:

https://www.t-c-m-rd.co.uk/cms_misc/images/default/bathuniversity/26359-021.jpg

Research, development and contributions to technological advancement.

Bad:

https://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0702/feature3/images/ft_hdr.3.jpg

Foreign policy dictated sometimes cruelly by natural resources.

2007-12-29 15:53:01

#38

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6991

David.P wrote:
Right tell that to the guys who had their heads cut off. Oh wait you cant cause they're dead!

What has the heads getting cut off bit got to do with the people who were completely innocent? You aren't playing by the 'western civilization' rulebook and you'll obviously draw criticism from all and sundry until you take your standards back out of the gutter.

2007-12-29 15:53:40

#39

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

David.P wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
David.P wrote:

FIXED.
Perhaps this is why some people take a dim view of Americans, which is unfair as most Americans are intelligent progressive people. You do know that you subjected people who actually turned out to be completely innocent to torture and detainment without trial, don't you? Principles first, ALWAYS.
Right tell that to the guys who had their heads cut off. Oh wait you cant cause they're dead!

So, since a guy got his head cut off you take the first Muslim you find and he pays for something he didn't do. That seems a bit unfair. Maybe some of those guys were guilty, but a lot were not, how do you pay them for the amusement they had at Gitmo? Do you give Disney Hopper passes to them?

2007-12-29 15:54:22

#40

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

Hey Cam, did you protest the IRA?

2007-12-29 15:55:25

#41

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6991

usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey Cam, did you protest the IRA?

You seriously think I wanted a bullet in both kneecaps? The answer is no (as opposed to 'no u').

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2007-12-29 15:56:18

#42

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey Cam, did you protest the IRA?

The thread is what's right and wrong with America, maybe you missed that.

2007-12-29 15:57:02

#43

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey Cam, did you protest the IRA?
The thread is what's right and wrong with America, maybe you missed that.

Maybe you missed who I was talking to.

2007-12-29 15:58:44

#44

mikkel: Member; +383|7036

David.P wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
David.P wrote:

FIXED.
Perhaps this is why some people take a dim view of Americans, which is unfair as most Americans are intelligent progressive people. You do know that you subjected people who actually turned out to be completely innocent to torture and detainment without trial, don't you? Principles first, ALWAYS.
Right tell that to the guys who had their heads cut off. Oh wait you cant cause they're dead!

What, you want to tell the people who are dead that their government decided to torture innocent people? How is that going to do anything but provoke some sort of misguided sense of justification in people who don't necessarily need any reason to make judgements as long as they have something that sounds emotionally charged in whatever unrelated way to base their decisions on?

2007-12-29 15:59:52

#45

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey Cam, did you protest the IRA?
The thread is what's right and wrong with America, maybe you missed that.
Maybe you missed who I was talking to.

And you never get into other people's argument, please.

2007-12-29 16:03:44

#46

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7087|USA

twiistaaa wrote:
lowing wrote:
THE RIGHT

This pizza delivery guy dispatched 2 would be robbers, one on foot, the other to hell. He had a permit to conceal carry, in another state however. No matter, chalk one up for the good guys, because there is at least one piece of shit that the taxpayers will not have to support and another that will probably never try to rob anyone else.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/200 … urder.kmov
umm.. yeah that isn't really right.

firstly.

were the robbers murderers? no.
did one deserve to die for robbing? no.

secondly.

maybe the fact that there was something in America that led these 2 men to be robbers might be 'a WRONG' in the first place. killing one of them didn't actually fix that particular problem did it?

what if one of them was your son? what if he was a victim of circumstance? do you really feel all that good about killing someone who doesn't really deserve to be killed?

If you threaten bodily harm on a person, and you get bodily harmed first, I promise you, you will get no sympathy from me nor a second thought.

Yes there is circumstances that led to these robbers doing wrong, it is called a lack of personal responsibility. In America, you are FREE to choose to exercise it or not. There are rewards and consequences established for your decisions.

I am not worried about my sons choices, at 10 and 11 I will match my sons morality, personal responsibility and decisions against most adults I know.

No I do not condone killing anyone that does not deserve it, however, anyone that plays dangerous games sometimes will pay for it. Anyone who threatens to harm or kill another in the commitment of a crime I hope gets killed first, because they deserve it. Period

2007-12-29 16:06:31

#47

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7197

sergeriver wrote:
And you never get into other people's argument, please.

Well what's the point? All this thread and others turn into is.... David says something, and 5 or 6 people respond to the same damn thing.

2007-12-29 16:10:38

#48

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
And you never get into other people's argument, please.
Well what's the point? All this thread and others turn into is.... David says something, and 5 or 6 people respond to the same damn thing.

Maybe you heard of freedom of speech. If you address someone else with respect I don't see the problem.

2007-12-29 16:10:47

#49

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7087|USA

I think most on here will post AGAINST David P, even if they think he is right., simply becasue they refuse to give him a point For one, I am a David P. fan.

2007-12-29 16:11:38

#50

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7193|Argentina

lowing wrote:
I think most on here will post AGAINST David P, even if they think he is right., simply becasue they refuse to give him a point For one, I am a David P. fan.

I still love you buddy.

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David.P wrote:

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deeznutz1245 wrote:

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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

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