Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya
well as u all know it was just christmas... so i have a fair bit of money to burn... just wondering is there anything i should upgrade>???


https://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z43/howdoulikemen0w/Specs-1.jpg


i only have a 512mb 8600GT but dont even bother saying get a 8800 cuz it wont fit in my computer and im not gonna do a complete rebuild.
Lawdy_
ahhhh dangit!
+15|6442|Australia
you could buy me a new 680i motherboard, cuz i just did that whole list for you O.O

haha jk:)
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

Lawdy_ wrote:

you could buy me a new 680i motherboard, cuz i just did that whole list for you O.O

haha jk:)
lol u wish mark
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7015|Long Island, New York
Anything you should upgrade?

Yep.

Everything.

A 6150 is like...what, 4 years old now? A 5200+ isn't bad but it's not good compared to C2D's. And is that 4 gigs of 400MHz RAM? Blech.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

Poseidon wrote:

Anything you should upgrade?

Yep.

Everything.

A 6150 is like...what, 4 years old now? A 5200+ isn't bad but it's not good compared to C2D's. And is that 4 gigs of 400MHz RAM? Blech.
4 gigs of 533Mhz but yer i know its slow....
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7098|Mhz

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Anything you should upgrade?

Yep.

Everything.

A 6150 is like...what, 4 years old now? A 5200+ isn't bad but it's not good compared to C2D's. And is that 4 gigs of 400MHz RAM? Blech.
4 gigs of 533Mhz but yer i know its slow....
Well it's not running at 533 that's for sure, I'd say a full system rebuild is in order.
Lawdy_
ahhhh dangit!
+15|6442|Australia

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Lawdy_ wrote:

you could buy me a new 680i motherboard, cuz i just did that whole list for you O.O

haha jk:)
lol u wish mark
i feel special, because,.... my msn window is open on that screen shot! win

Maybe you could upgrade to vista, or a new chipset for your CPU that might work
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6617|New Jersey
You should overclock your processor a bit so your RAM runs at the right speed.  I have the same CPU and that's what I did.  It's because the 5200+ has an odd multiplier of x13, so it underclocks RAM
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Anything you should upgrade?

Yep.

Everything.

A 6150 is like...what, 4 years old now? A 5200+ isn't bad but it's not good compared to C2D's. And is that 4 gigs of 400MHz RAM? Blech.
4 gigs of 533Mhz but yer i know its slow....
Well it's not running at 533 that's for sure, I'd say a full system rebuild is in order.
as i said im not going to do a complete rebuild... until the Nvidia 9 series comes out
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

SpIk3y wrote:

You should overclock your processor a bit so your RAM runs at the right speed.  I have the same CPU and that's what I did.  It's because the 5200+ has an odd multiplier of x13, so it underclocks RAM
interesting... i was told on this forum that i shouldnt bother over clocking... but hmmm
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7015|Long Island, New York

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:


4 gigs of 533Mhz but yer i know its slow....
Well it's not running at 533 that's for sure, I'd say a full system rebuild is in order.
as i said im not going to do a complete rebuild... until the Nvidia 9 series comes out
Well then that's what you need to do. There's really not many options you can upgrade now.

When the 9 series comes out, there'll be bundles of new stuff. New 45nm quad cores, cheaper and more efficient RAM, better mobos, etc. Waiting for the 9 series is actually a very wise choice. Good thinking.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

Poseidon wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:


Well it's not running at 533 that's for sure, I'd say a full system rebuild is in order.
as i said im not going to do a complete rebuild... until the Nvidia 9 series comes out
Well then that's what you need to do. There's really not many options you can upgrade now.

When the 9 series comes out, there'll be bundles of new stuff. New 45nm quad cores, cheaper and more efficient RAM, better mobos, etc. Waiting for the 9 series is actually a very wise choice. Good thinking.
lol thx... yer when the 9 series comes along im going for best of everything... no holding back lol
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7015|Long Island, New York

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:


as i said im not going to do a complete rebuild... until the Nvidia 9 series comes out
Well then that's what you need to do. There's really not many options you can upgrade now.

When the 9 series comes out, there'll be bundles of new stuff. New 45nm quad cores, cheaper and more efficient RAM, better mobos, etc. Waiting for the 9 series is actually a very wise choice. Good thinking.
lol thx... yer when the 9 series comes along im going for best of everything... no holding back lol
And that's the absolute best option you can go for!
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6627|'straya

Poseidon wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Well then that's what you need to do. There's really not many options you can upgrade now.

When the 9 series comes out, there'll be bundles of new stuff. New 45nm quad cores, cheaper and more efficient RAM, better mobos, etc. Waiting for the 9 series is actually a very wise choice. Good thinking.
lol thx... yer when the 9 series comes along im going for best of everything... no holding back lol
And that's the absolute best option you can go for!
karmaz to u
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

SpIk3y wrote:

You should overclock your processor a bit so your RAM runs at the right speed.  I have the same CPU and that's what I did.  It's because the 5200+ has an odd multiplier of x13, so it underclocks RAM
The multiplier has no impact whatsoever on RAM speed.

I don't know where you got that idea from.
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6617|New Jersey
if you are using a am2 cpu that uses an odd muliplier then yes it will underclock it. my x2 6000 used a multi of (200x15=3ghz) and it clocks the ram at 375 at stock speeds.
to get the ram to run at 400 I have to oc a little (215x15). the even multi's don't have this issue.
This was posted by a tech-wiz on the AMD forums when I asked why my RAM was not running at the proper speed.

AMD's have an integrated memory controller on the die, so the multiplier does affect the RAM speed.  So when you increase the CPU frequency, the RAM speed goes up.  This is why the OP should just overclock a little bit to boost the RAM to the right frequency.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7059|SE London

SpIk3y wrote:

if you are using a am2 cpu that uses an odd muliplier then yes it will underclock it. my x2 6000 used a multi of (200x15=3ghz) and it clocks the ram at 375 at stock speeds.
to get the ram to run at 400 I have to oc a little (215x15). the even multi's don't have this issue.
This was posted by a tech-wiz on the AMD forums when I asked why my RAM was not running at the proper speed.

AMD's have an integrated memory controller on the die, so the multiplier does affect the RAM speed.  So when you increase the CPU frequency, the RAM speed goes up.  This is why the OP should just overclock a little bit to boost the RAM to the right frequency.
Well I suppose since it's derived from the overall CPU frequency rather than the bus rate, you could have an issue. But surely it balances out ok, doesn't it? If not that's really crap design. It certainly doesn't impact the 939 or 754 CPUs which also have the memory controller on die - but that could be down to the lower 200MHz clock rate which would be easier to get accurate dividers for - lets have a look:

3GHz = 3000, using an integer divider we are limited to 7 or 8, which works out as either; 3000/7=428 or 3000/8=375, neither of these is what we want.

Whereas for DDR boards: 3000/15=200 - works perfectly.

I realised the AM2 design was a bit shoddy - I didn't realise they'd just shifted over their existing technology without modding it to fit the new memory requirements properly, that's shocking.
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6617|New Jersey
I don't know all that much about it, but yes it is kinda crappy.  My PC6400 RAM was running at 370MHZ instead of 400 for almost a year before I figured it out too.  This is why I'm saving up for an Intel in January

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