Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|7000|Singapore
As above, i heard it can shorten the battery life, will it or will it not?
tazz.
oz.
+1,338|6441|Sydney | ♥

ALL bateries have a certain amount of "Charges" this, i believe, ticks over every time the battery is drained under 90% And charged back up over 90%, Normally Batteries have around 5000 Charges, the ipods only had 1000, thus the uproar.....
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|7000|Singapore
hmm, so its still alright to leave my batt inside while i am using?
OmniDeath
~
+726|6910

Yes.
mtamosaitis
Member
+3|6251|Colorado Springs
its never good to leave any battery charging all the time. It does shorten its life. And Yes all rechargable batteries have so manay cycles before they go bad.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6983
Your battery should still last a really long time... I think that most newer laptops even stop charging when they are full...
Love is the answer
mtamosaitis
Member
+3|6251|Colorado Springs
in my experience they dont. And the expected life of a laptop battery is a year to a year and a half
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7096|Denver colorado
when your sitting down in your home next to an outlet take out the battery and use the charger as a power source.

Now if theres a chance you will be moving use the battery.


Just don't over think it. the battery dies even when your not using it.
Lawdy_
ahhhh dangit!
+15|6231|Australia
yeah it is better to leave it in aswell, because we used to take my sisters battery out because it was allways plugged in to the main power supply at the wall, and i though it was in, so i could take it to the lounge room... bad idea, it wasnt in, and i pulled out the power plug and it took a shit and it locked up everything i had to press the reset button somewhere on it, and reload windows and it was so annoying.
it doesnt help when its not your computer, and you have a angry older sister :-/

but yeah keep it in lol
Protecus
Prophet of Certain Certainties
+28|6788
Heres some good info I found when I had the same question

  • When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
  • Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
  • Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate the battery's fuel gauge. This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.


So, basicallly, if you leave your laptop plugged in the wall 90%, pull the battery at 40% and store it in the fridge.

But if you move on occasion, feel free to leave it in, no biggie.
mtamosaitis
Member
+3|6251|Colorado Springs

Protecus wrote:

Here's some good info I found when I had the same question

  • When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
  • Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
  • Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate the battery's fuel gauge. This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.


So, basically, if you leave your laptop plugged in the wall 90%, pull the battery at 40% and store it in the fridge.

But if you move on occasion, feel free to leave it in, no biggie.
Do not put your battery in a frig. Most people don't keep laptops in a place that gets as hot as inside a car. If you do then you just are asking for trouble. Do take it out  when it is not needed. over charging is bad for the battery which is what happens when the battery is fully charged and left plugged into the wall. most laptop manufactures make a tool that can be downloaded to help recalibrate your battery, I know for sure dell does. I have found that the people at your local batteries plus store can tell you on how to care for the different kinds of batteries the RIGHT way. Wikipeda is not always right.

Last edited by mtamosaitis (2008-11-05 15:38:24)

jaymz9350
Member
+54|6844

mtamosaitis wrote:

Protecus wrote:

Here's some good info I found when I had the same question

  • When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
  • Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
  • Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate the battery's fuel gauge. This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.


So, basically, if you leave your laptop plugged in the wall 90%, pull the battery at 40% and store it in the fridge.

But if you move on occasion, feel free to leave it in, no biggie.
Do not put your battery in a frig. Most people don't keep laptops in a place that gets as hot as inside a car. If you do then you just are asking for trouble. Do take it out  when it is not needed. over charging is bad for the battery which is what happens when the battery is fully charged and left plugged into the wall. most laptop manufactures make a tool that can be downloaded to help recalibrate your battery, I know for sure dell does. I have found that the people at your local batteries plus store can tell you on how to care for the different kinds of batteries the RIGHT way. Wikipeda is not always right.
you may not use your laptop in places that get really hot, but remember the laptop itself produces a fair amount of heat during use which will heat up the battery.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6939|Maine
They have onboard computers in the battery cell. When it is fully charged, it stops charging. It can't overcharge. It shouldn't matter much.
mtamosaitis
Member
+3|6251|Colorado Springs

jaymz9350 wrote:

mtamosaitis wrote:

Protecus wrote:

Here's some good info I found when I had the same question

  • When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
  • Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
  • Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%. Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate the battery's fuel gauge. This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.


So, basically, if you leave your laptop plugged in the wall 90%, pull the battery at 40% and store it in the fridge.

But if you move on occasion, feel free to leave it in, no biggie.
Do not put your battery in a frig. Most people don't keep laptops in a place that gets as hot as inside a car. If you do then you just are asking for trouble. Do take it out  when it is not needed. over charging is bad for the battery which is what happens when the battery is fully charged and left plugged into the wall. most laptop manufactures make a tool that can be downloaded to help recalibrate your battery, I know for sure dell does. I have found that the people at your local batteries plus store can tell you on how to care for the different kinds of batteries the RIGHT way. Wikipeda is not always right.
you may not use your laptop in places that get really hot, but remember the laptop itself produces a fair amount of heat during use which will heat up the battery.
thats why u would take it out if plugged in.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6939|Maine

jamiet757 wrote:

Well I will be honest, I only read Taz's post, but he is right. Batteries only have a limited number of charges (not an actual number, but just a rough estimate of how many times it can be charged and discharged until it will no longer hold a decent charge)

HOWEVER, it is healthy for a battery to be completely discharged and recharged every few weeks or so. If it sits around being fully charged all the time and not being discharged, or vice versa if you never charge the battery, it will substantially shorten the lifespan of that battery.

So a good rule is, use it on batteries if you need (that is what laptops were designed for) but try to discharge and recharge the battery completely every few weeks.

A good way to do this is to use your laptop's battery calibration technique, it will discharge the battery and measure and adjust your battery gauge, then you can plug it in and recharge the battery when it is done if it does not do it for you.
If you completely discharge a Li-ion battery it will severely cripple its lifespan.

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