BF2S Forums Most anticipated releases of 2008?

Poseidon wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

For me, it's gotta be:GTA IV (360 PS3)

Fixed4u

That + Metal gear

I'm sure it would be better on PS3 considering I've played the past GTA's on the PS2, but Xbox 360 is just too much win and it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays.

Sony fails for not securing it for the PS3 only.

They'd rather pin their hopes to Metal gear: Nobody gives a shit.

And yet another G Turismo.

ELITE-UK wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

jord wrote:

Piss of with your PS3 shit. They're basically the same thing.

360>PS3>PC

DINGLE.

Where's slinga when I need him.

PS3>PC>PS2>PS1>GBA>GBC>GB>.................>AMSTRAD>wankbox>wankbox360

Actually its just....PC because all just suck balls apart from pc ok?

Pc's suck shit.

PC aint best, fucking installing, bugs, compatability

jord wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

PS3>PC>PS2>PS1>GBA>GBC>GB>.................>AMSTRAD>wankbox>wankbox360

Actually its just....PC because all just suck balls apart from pc ok?

Pc's suck shit.

/fail

You just admitted ur poor and incompetent.

Vilham wrote:

jord wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Actually its just....PC because all just suck balls apart from pc ok?

Pc's suck shit.

/fail

You just admitted ur poor and incompetent.

JORD > YOU

SamTheMan:D wrote:

PC aint best, fucking installing, bugs, compatability

I have a spot on machine, rarely any problems with games. So yes YOUR pc aint the best..but as a platform it is ok?

jord wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

PC aint best, fucking installing, bugs, compatability

I have a spot on machine, rarely any problems with games. So yes YOUR pc aint the best..but as a platform it is ok?

Installing still stands. You need to fuck around patching and checking you have drivers and direct x.9 or whatever. Bugs as well, console games are a lot easier to set up and play.

Well, i always keep up to date on the drivers. Xfire downloads the patches for me automatically so all i have to do is install it.

ELITE-UK wrote:

jord wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

I have a spot on machine, rarely any problems with games. So yes YOUR pc aint the best..but as a platform it is ok?

Installing still stands. You need to fuck around patching and checking you have drivers and direct x.9 or whatever. Bugs as well, console games are a lot easier to set up and play.

Well, i always keep up to date on the drivers. Xfire downloads the patches for me automatically so all i have to do is install it.

Yeah you might. It's still an inconvenience to most casual gamers.
When I buy a game I expect to play it within half an hour after getting it home. I also expect that a computer I bought within a year should be able to play it.

Sadly these 2 things that should happen don't.

The_Mac wrote:

I find people who say that to be just plain stupid and hype buyers. The PC has the best graphics, the best gameplay, the best RTSs, FPSs, and RPGs, while the only thing the consoles have are immature fanboys and n00bs, as you just help to reinforce yourself.

So Mass Effect, Legend of Zelda, the Grand Tourismo Series, Metroid Prime, Halo 3, Forza Motorsports... all of those shining beacons of RPG/Racing/FPS games are on the PC then?

Bear in mind that a console game won the Gamespot game of the year.

The_Mac wrote:

Your opinion reeks of retardation and deliberate misinformation. you can piss off, along with your red ring of death and oversimplified console kiddie play.

The beauty of consoles is that you put the disk in and go. None of this whining on forums about how directx has fucked up and crashes the game everytime someone throws a nade, none of this seeking endless fixes and patches for hours at a time.

You just put the disk in and go.

And let me tell you something else. In terms of gameplay innovations, the consoles are where it's at right about now. With the PC the graphics get better every year, the processing becomes more powerful every year. With a console you've got the same hardware for 5 years or so running, so it is the gameplay that changes and innovates.

And don't get me wrong, I love my (aging) computer. I probably game more on the PC than on the Wii that I have. But they both have their place.

GR34 wrote:

GTA IV
Army of 2
Alan Wake
BF band company
^all for 360
FORPCC:
Empire Total war
BF3?
Project reality 0.7

?

SharkyMcshark wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

I find people who say that to be just plain stupid and hype buyers. The PC has the best graphics, the best gameplay, the best RTSs, FPSs, and RPGs, while the only thing the consoles have are immature fanboys and n00bs, as you just help to reinforce yourself.

So Mass Effect, Legend of Zelda, the Grand Tourismo Series, Metroid Prime, Halo 3, Forza Motorsports... all of those shining beacons of RPG/Racing/FPS games are on the PC then?

Bear in mind that a console game won the Gamespot game of the year.

Oh, right, because Gamespot, the company that accepts bribes and fires journalists for rating games too low, is an example of rating at its highest integrity?

All the games you mentioned are dumbed down pieces of rubbish. Halo is just your average piece of shit. Half Life 2 blows the entire Halo shit franchise out of its own arse.

The only thing remarkable about Halo, really, is how far its fans' heads are stuck up their asses, and how the game really is just a load of Microsoft Hype.

The beauty of consoles is that you put the disk in and go. None of this whining on forums about how directx has fucked up and crashes the game everytime someone throws a nade, none of this seeking endless fixes and patches for hours at a time.

You just put the disk in and go.

Yeah, you just proved yourself that the xbox 360 caters to the lazies and the simple minded--yes, problems occur with PCs, but you'll find plenty of whining about how the Red Ring of Death just fuxxored someone over, and they're whining more, because they can't fix their xbox, whereas an experience PC Gamer will be able to locate the problem, and get a new computer component to whatever it is experienced the meltdown--speaking of problems, the problems a PC Gamer encounters can easily be remedied, whereas the problems an xbox encounters prove fatal to the machine as a whole--not to mention that PCs have better cooling so that events like a Red Ring of Death are rarities, unless the user over clocked, in which case, unless he's a complete moron, he'd be able to amend the situation, without having to cry home to Microsoft Support.

As for installation processes, if you have even a 250GB HDD for $70 (Seagate from Newegg--they're running at 7200.10 RPM) you can get a fast installation, as well as being able to do word processing (hardly relevant in gaming, but I have yet to see anyone doing word processing on their PS3).

And let me tell you something else. In terms of gameplay innovations, the consoles are where it's at right about now. With the PC the graphics get better every year, the processing becomes more powerful every year. With a console you've got the same hardware for 5 years or so running, so it is the gameplay that changes and innovates.

You're right about the PC getting more powerful each year, and the flexibility that PC Gamers have with their rigs. I built a rig thats still holding up a year and a half ago, and I run CoD4 on max, no problem.

Tell me how that works, because every single Halo game, the best selling in the xbox's gaming historyfor example, is merely a graphical improvement over the previous, with a few weapons thrown in? Is that gameplay innovation?

Well, it just goes to show how the xbox fans are absolute arrogant, ignorant tools.

Meanwhile, the Orange Box, which did come out for the xbox 360, but targeted PC players, features Portal, TF2, and HL2Ep2, some of the more innovative and fun games of the year. Not to mention that Valve is first and foremost, a PC developer.

The Analog controller also makes developers have to dumb down the game for an audience fiddling around with sticks on a pad, as well as, in the consoles' case, making the text for RPGs be twice as big because of the small resolutions--HD is 1080p which is around 1920x1080 is easily beaten by a 24" LCD at a resolution of 1920x1200.

The Witcher: a shining example of RPGs--I don't see it on the xbox 360--Dungeon Siege (1&2) Examples of flawed, but fun RPGs that both surfaced for only the PC. Meanwhile, Oblivion was hampered by the Core technology of the Xbox, and the AI had to be dumbed down for the machine.

And don't get me wrong, I love my (aging) computer. I probably game more on the PC than on the Wii that I have. But they both have their place.

After just saying that PCs suck shit, and then saying that you have an aging computer, I'm not surprised you don't like PCs, because yours is probably utter rubbish, and you don't know a thing about it.

Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising

The_Mac wrote:

All the games you mentioned are dumbed down pieces of rubbish. Halo is just your average piece of shit. Half Life 2 blows the entire Halo shit franchise out of its own arse.

You seem to have this fixation with Halo being shit. Which seems odd, because most of the media, and a majority of gamers don't agree with you. I'd like to know exactly how Gran Tourismo and Forza, which are two of the best racing simulators available, are dumbed down. Could you explain how innovative games like Mario Galaxy (which is up there with Portal in terms of its physics mind blowery), Metroid Prime, and Mass Effect are watered down to cater to the masses?

Just because you use a gamepad to control them it doesn't mean they've been kiddifed you know.

There will always be the consoles vs Computer debate, and while it doesn't just boil down the gameplay v graphics, that is a large part of it. Obviously there are computer games that have exceptional innovatire/original gameplay (Portal springs to mind instantly, also World In Conflict), and console games that have exceptional graphics (not a contemporary title, but F Zero GX circa 2003, Halo 3 on a HD television looks rather nice).

One of the shining advantages of consoles is their multiplayer. And obviously PC Internet play > Console internet play, but imo theres no better feeling multiplayer wise that 4 mates all infront of the same big TV engaged in a 4 way Smash Bros Melee fight/Wii Tennis match/Halo 3 Deathmatch/Burnout 3 Tournament.

The_Mac wrote:

Yeah, you just proved yourself that the xbox 360 caters to the lazies and the simple minded--yes, problems occur with PCs, but you'll find plenty of whining about how the Red Ring of Death just fuxxored someone over, and they're whining more, because they can't fix their xbox, whereas an experience PC Gamer will be able to locate the problem, and get a new computer component to whatever it is experienced the meltdown--speaking of problems, the problems a PC Gamer encounters can easily be remedied, whereas the problems an xbox encounters prove fatal to the machine as a whole--not to mention that PCs have better cooling so that events like a Red Ring of Death are rarities, unless the user over clocked, in which case, unless he's a complete moron, he'd be able to amend the situation, without having to cry home to Microsoft Support.

You understand that a majority of gamers are classed as 'casual' gamers. Obviously someone with a technical knowledge is going to be able to better diagnose and fix a problem, but on the whole there are not only a larger variety of problem you can run into on the PC, but generally they occur more frequently too.

I do note that you seem to have a particular vendetta against the xbox though. Hope that works out well for you.

The_Mac wrote:

As for installation processes, if you have even a 250GB HDD for $70 (Seagate from Newegg--they're running at 7200.10 RPM) you can get a fast installation, as well as being able to do word processing (hardly relevant in gaming, but I have yet to see anyone doing word processing on their PS3).

Yeah but therein is the beauty of consoles. You buy it, and five years later they're releasing game that YOU CAN STILL PLAY WITHOUT UPGRADING. Because honestly, for the same money you spend on a console you can't buy a computer that would play games released in two years let alone 5.

The_Mac wrote:

You're right about the PC getting more powerful each year, and the flexibility that PC Gamers have with their rigs. I built a rig thats still holding up a year and a half ago, and I run CoD4 on max, no problem.

Tell me how that works, because every single Halo game, the best selling in the xbox's gaming historyfor example, is merely a graphical improvement over the previous, with a few weapons thrown in? Is that gameplay innovation?

Well, it just goes to show how the xbox fans are absolute arrogant, ignorant tools.

Meanwhile, the Orange Box, which did come out for the xbox 360, but targeted PC players, features Portal, TF2, and HL2Ep2, some of the more innovative and fun games of the year. Not to mention that Valve is first and foremost, a PC developer.

The Analog controller also makes developers have to dumb down the game for an audience fiddling around with sticks on a pad, as well as, in the consoles' case, making the text for RPGs be twice as big because of the small resolutions--HD is 1080p which is around 1920x1080 is easily beaten by a 24" LCD at a resolution of 1920x1200.

The Witcher: a shining example of RPGs--I don't see it on the xbox 360--Dungeon Siege (1&2) Examples of flawed, but fun RPGs that both surfaced for only the PC. Meanwhile, Oblivion was hampered by the Core technology of the Xbox, and the AI had to be dumbed down for the machine.

Games you can control with motion. Games you can control with voice. Games you can control with touch. All innovations brought to the masses by consoles (the Wii obviously and to a lesser extent the PS3). I can see that you're obsessed with display resolutions, and being able to 'run CoD4 on max'. I hate to break it to you, and I would have thought that you'd have heard it by now, BUT "Gameply > Graphics", "Gameplay is more important than graphics", "Substance over style".

And don't get me wrong, graphics have their place too. The PC market pushes graphics to the extreme. You will always find the most advanced, bleeding edge graphics on PCs due to their ever evolving nature. But the consoles generally find new, innovative ways to play games. Granted Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2 is the same as Halo but with shinier guns, but what was the last computer game that was BOTH good and had 4 player story co op (serious sam 2 doesn't count lol)? I don't suppose you can play a tennis game on the computer where you actually swing the raquet, or a golf game where you actually swing the club? An example of an interesting and new concept spawned from consoles is the Wii game that's a simulator for directing orchestras. Admittedly not a concept for everyone, at least it's something new and not just shooting Normal Mapped North Korean's on a Normal Mapped island.

And again let me say I don't see the need to pick one or the other. I love both my computer and the various consoles I have. The whole point is you can't write off the contributions and advances that console games make.

The_Mac wrote:

After just saying that PCs suck shit, and then saying that you have an aging computer, I'm not surprised you don't like PCs, because yours is probably utter rubbish, and you don't know a thing about it.

So could you do me a favour toolbag? Point out exactly where I said that PC's are shit? Maybe you're genuinely too retarded to noticed that you quoted me saying that I loved my computer and then said that I hated computers.

By the way

AMD Athlon 3800 + Single Core
ATI Sapphire X800GT
2 Gb Hyundai Ram
Asus A8N Mobo
120 GB WD Hard Drive.

A computer built on a shoestring budget in 2005. Aging but not over the hill just yet.


The whole point is this. PCs are where the technology advancements take place a majority of the time. But consoles produce a majority of new gameplay advancements.

I mean honestly, apart from Portal (which kicks ASS), name 4 other games that in the last two years have changed the way we play games.

Last edited by SharkyMcshark (2007-12-31 22:21:33)