Havok
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Apparently, on November 2nd, Benazir Bhutto was on David Frost's show called Frost Around the World that airs on Al-Jazeera and she said this: "...and he also had dealings with Omar Sheikh, the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden..."  Here's a video of her saying it.  Skip to 2:10 if you don't want to watch the whole thing.

Now, if I recall correctly, Musharraf declared a state of emergency on November 3rd and put Bhutto under house arrest... coincidence?  I don't want to start a conspiracy, but I find it odd this was never mentioned on any major news station anywhere in the world.  Not even David Frost picked up on it when he was interviewing Bhutto on his show.  Is this real?  I don't think the video was edited because the words seem to match up to her mouth movements.  I searched for this and found no threads on it, so forgive me if this was posted before.  Opinions?

Last edited by Havok (2007-12-31 20:37:55)

usmarine
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Hmmm... I will have to watch this when I get home.
jsnipy
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lips looks funny when she says it ... i call edit

Last edited by jsnipy (2007-12-31 20:12:09)

BF2Craglyeye
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Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.

Last edited by BF2Craglyeye (2007-12-31 20:23:52)

Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7110|Florida, United States

Argh, I just found out I got beat to post this in the other Benazir Bhutto thread.  Link.  Oh well, I think this deserves its own thread anyway.
usmarine
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BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
You really do not know anything do you?
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6566|North Tonawanda, NY
Wikipedia has a blurb about it:

November 2007
In an interview with political interviewer David Frost, taken on November 2, 2007, the recently assassinated Pakistani politician, and Pakistan People's Party chairwoman, Benazir Bhutto, claimed that bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh. During her answer to a question pertaining to the identities of those who had previously attempted her own assassination, Bhutto named Sheikh as a possible suspect while referring to him as "the man who murdered Osama bin Laden." Despite the weight of such a statement, neither Bhutto nor Frost attempted to clarify it and no other mainstream media appears to have further inquired about it.
Source.

Interesting, but I don't think most people will believe that Osama is dead without a body and some way to ensure that the corpse is actually him.
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7182|The United Center
Weird.

I'm going to leave this open since it's related to the Bhutto assassination.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6566|North Tonawanda, NY

usmarine2005 wrote:

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
You really do not know anything do you?
I don't know about you, but everyday I wake up and do nothing but fear Osama Bin Laden!  (kidding)

Why do people put a terrible agenda on things involving the US government?  Is it trendy?  I don't get it.
usmarine
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Maybe she just got confused?  It happens.  people are human.
Catbox
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I think she mispoke... and meant another guy...  and the US has an agenda... to keep the world safe from these backwards nutty fucks...
Love is the answer
BF2Craglyeye
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
You really do not know anything do you?
Maybe you missed this part of my quote.

*shrugs*  Meh...Who knows.
It means I dont CARE.


But thanks for playing you're always a good stir up



SenorToenails wrote:

I don't know about you, but everyday I wake up and do nothing but fear Osama Bin Laden!  (kidding)
Now this guy knew how to take it.

Last edited by BF2Craglyeye (2007-12-31 21:55:46)

SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7221|Perth, Western Australia

SenorToenails wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
You really do not know anything do you?
I don't know about you, but everyday I wake up and do nothing but fear Osama Bin Laden!  (kidding)

Why do people put a terrible agenda on things involving the US government?  Is it trendy?  I don't get it.
Well it makes more sense than most conspiracy theories. While an increasing majority of the US public are against their government's actions overseas, the goal of capturing Bin Laden remains a key point for them because OBL had launched actual tangible attacks against America on their own soil. Obviously if he were to be out of the picture then it wouldn't be the end of the 'war of against terror', but it would mean that the administration would have to find a new figurehead/target to put a face to the enemy. If they pick some relative un known it might leave the average joe feeling disenfranchised (I mean how many people actually know who Abu Ayyub al-Masri is?).

Point is OBL provides the American government with a tangible target to justify foreign invasion intervention. While it is a bit far fetched admittedly, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd been suppressing his death as a means to keep their foreign operations going smoothly.

disclaimer: I'm not saying that if they are suppressing OBLs death it's because it would mean that they'd have to pull out, because obviously if the goal is to eradicate Al Qaeda then just getting rid of OBL won't cut it. I'm saying they could be using it as a means to keep things running smoothly.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6846|'Murka

Isn't "Omar Sheikh" similar to saying "Mister John"?

"Mr John killed Osama". Well...case closed, I guess.

As for the US needing to have Osama alive to keep the WOT going...the government has said (repeatedly) that the WOT isn't about one person (ie, UBL), or about a single movement (AQ). It's about combating violent Islamic fundamentalism. So the "theory" that the US needs to have UBL stay alive and unfound has no merit, based on it's own statements regarding him.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-01-01 03:54:29)

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henno13
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wait.......
bin ladens dead?
Adams_BJ
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Hmm, I have never heard of this before now, could be a cover up, or maybe it wasn't picked up.
BluRR33
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I've heard that bin laden has been killed many times now but it always shows that he still is alive.. hope they don't lie now

Last edited by BluRR33 (2008-01-01 04:06:36)

GoldBerg.!.
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I knew he was dead, mere fact  US Government stuffed up big time, did not replay new footage, just got over and over and over again.

Shame on You Bush!!!!!!!!!!>

Whoever killed this lady shall pay.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Maybe she just got confused?  It happens.  people are human.
Maybe he's really dead, but I doubt this guy killed him, since he was arrested by Pakistani police on February 12, 2002.  Unless he killed him after 9/11 and that date.

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-01-01 05:10:54)

Turquoise
O Canada
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Here's what I don't get.  If Omar Sheikh murdered Daniel Pearl, why would he also murder Osama?  They sound like they work for the same cause.  Maybe he wanted to take Osama's place?...

Whatever the case, this really does sound like Osama is dead now.  One can only hope, at least....
Raphi
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Weird.
GoldBerg.!.
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BluRR33 wrote:

I've heard that bin laden has been killed many times now but it always shows that he still is alive.. hope they don't lie now
SwordFish, enough said.

The eyes see, the ears hear, anyone will believe anything simple fact is they want to believe.
Shocking
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BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
If they wanted to use fear they´d Say this Omar guy was behind all the stuff, being so powerfull he can even pretty much kill osama sure as hell means he's more fearable than Osama.
inane little opines
chittydog
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+586|7270|Kubra, Damn it!

dayarath wrote:

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

Doesnt look edited.

With Osama alive the US government has considerable control through the use of fear. To push its own agenda.

*shrugs*

Meh...Who knows.
If they wanted to use fear they´d Say this Omar guy was behind all the stuff, being so powerfull he can even pretty much kill osama sure as hell means he's more fearable than Osama.
Nah, you can't switch enemies too often or people get confused. Then again, you can't keep the same ones too long or it looks like we're not making any progress.
CameronPoe
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Edit I reckon. Not in sync.

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