Poll

MD-530 vs Mi-28

MD-530 Littlebird30%30% - 23
Mi-28 Havoc69%69% - 52
Total: 75
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6999|Massachusetts.
Both of these choppers absolutely decimate infantry. If you have never played AF, the Littlebird is basically a small, quick, UAV-equipped version of the pre-retard Blackhawk. Everyone is familiar with the Havoc's explosive rounds.

If you were to add both the choppers on Karkand or Mashtuur or Jalalabad, who will fly away with the most kills?
Longbow
Member
+163|6907|Odessa, Ukraine
Mi-28, because I prefer to fly with my mate
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6968|67.222.138.85
Mi-28, easier to get into small alleyways and such. If you put it on more even ground though, soloing each one, Littlebird would probably come out on top.
MysteryJake
Member
+12|6468|California

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Mi-28, easier to get into small alleyways and such. If you put it on more even ground though, soloing each one, Littlebird would probably come out on top.
Solo MG'ing with the havoc can be pretty destructive.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6827|England

Clearly you all have never flown the Littlebird properly...

LB, hands down. More maneauverable so itll die less (harder to hit) and its smaller so it can get into alleyways a LOT easier than the Havok can...

+ 2 engis on the side for roaming repairs who can drop unlimited AT mines if the pilot is support and you have a hardcore infantry rapist and can drop payloads on that camping armour.
Oh, and a UAV to spot all the enemies with....


MD530. Without a doubt.

Last edited by Snake (2008-01-02 14:22:14)

cablecopulate
Member
+449|6999|Massachusetts.
I think I lean towards the Littlebird myself. Infantry won't hit it at all, but the Havoc is a magnet for AT rockets. If the Littlebird gets the drop on the Havoc, it will always in a 1 on 1.

Also, remember the on the Littlebird the pilot is the one shooting, and you can shoot always straight down. It's near impossible to hide if there's a good pilot in that thing. Plus the bullets will penetrate things that they don't on the Havoc.
Perv3rt
Lookin' through your Window
+193|6501|Man Diego

One person per copter, or does the Havoc get a gunner?  Does the other team get the same copter?  I would take the little bird by myself, however I would rather be the gunner in the Havoc.
3lmo
Don't Hassel the Hoff
+345|6564|The | Netherlands

Snake wrote:

Clearly you all have never flown the Littlebird properly...

LB, hands down. More maneauverable so itll die less (harder to hit) and its smaller so it can get into alleyways a LOT easier than the Havok can...

+ 2 engis on the side for roaming repairs who can drop unlimited AT mines if the pilot is support and you have a hardcore infantry rapist and can drop payloads on that camping armour.
Oh, and a UAV to spot all the enemies with....


MD530. Without a doubt.
Can't you make a movie about that, Snake? Everybody is always saying how amazing the Littlebird is but I have barely seen any proof of it. (And no, I can't proof it myself, don't have AF)
MysteryJake
Member
+12|6468|California

Snake wrote:

Clearly you all have never flown the Littlebird properly...

LB, hands down. More maneauverable so itll die less (harder to hit) and its smaller so it can get into alleyways a LOT easier than the Havok can...

+ 2 engis on the side for roaming repairs who can drop unlimited AT mines if the pilot is support and you have a hardcore infantry rapist and can drop payloads on that camping armour.
Oh, and a UAV to spot all the enemies with....


MD530. Without a doubt.
Why would you want to get in an alley way with the havoc? Just circle strafe and blast anything that moves (If FF is off) with the cannon.
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6999|Massachusetts.

Perv3rt wrote:

One person per copter, or does the Havoc get a gunner?  Does the other team get the same copter?  I would take the little bird by myself, however I would rather be the gunner in the Havoc.
Doesn't matter, really. But when I thought up the poll, I figured this would be in a game situation. The Havoc would have two and the Littlebird would have three. The poll also assumes the people in the choppers are top of the food chain when it comes to what they are doing. Not random scrubs in the choppers.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6968|67.222.138.85

MysteryJake wrote:

Snake wrote:

Clearly you all have never flown the Littlebird properly...

LB, hands down. More maneauverable so itll die less (harder to hit) and its smaller so it can get into alleyways a LOT easier than the Havok can...

+ 2 engis on the side for roaming repairs who can drop unlimited AT mines if the pilot is support and you have a hardcore infantry rapist and can drop payloads on that camping armour.
Oh, and a UAV to spot all the enemies with....


MD530. Without a doubt.
Why would you want to get in an alley way with the havoc? Just circle strafe and blast anything that moves (If FF is off) with the cannon.
That's what I meant with the alley thing, the Havoc can easily put five rounds in an alley from almost any direction and completely saturate it, the littlebird has to maneuver either close to ground level or in an almost vertical position.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6827|England

3lmo wrote:

Can't you make a movie about that, Snake? Everybody is always saying how amazing the Littlebird is but I have barely seen any proof of it. (And no, I can't proof it myself, don't have AF)
Either:
1) Download my modded Tampa map and join us for the EU movie shoot on it (features 4 LB's, 4 Cobras, 4 A10's, 4 F15's...you get the point ) (or k3's modded Mashtuur that he made...also for the movie).
2) Watch my AF movie towards the end, all on Midnight Sun and Harvest
3) This that I got the other night: http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/ … 2ae86f.png (Behe/Gary as repair and AT-mine whores).


Or...wait until I do make one, I dont play with fraps on much anymore as it doesnt let xfire work at the same time

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

That's what I meant with the alley thing, the Havoc can easily put five rounds in an alley from almost any direction and completely saturate it, the littlebird has to maneuver either close to ground level or in an almost vertical position.
True...but then the LB doesnt have to have line of sight to fire around a corner...

Last edited by Snake (2008-01-02 14:35:34)

Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6729
Scout Helis shit all over you. In a 1 on 1 the Scout heli will also beat the attach heli, even if the AH has a gunner.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6968|67.222.138.85

Snake wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

That's what I meant with the alley thing, the Havoc can easily put five rounds in an alley from almost any direction and completely saturate it, the littlebird has to maneuver either close to ground level or in an almost vertical position.
True...but then the LB doesnt have to have line of sight to fire around a corner...
1) Pilot missiles behave the same way when circling, this is usually how I steal kills from my gunner
2) You don't have to shoot around a corner with the chain gun, it has an AOE of something like 5m

Oh, as for the LB beating an attack heli in a 1v1, these are top players in both vehicles. TV shot wouldn't miss.
MysteryJake
Member
+12|6468|California

cablecopulate wrote:

Perv3rt wrote:

One person per copter, or does the Havoc get a gunner?  Does the other team get the same copter?  I would take the little bird by myself, however I would rather be the gunner in the Havoc.
Doesn't matter, really. But when I thought up the poll, I figured this would be in a game situation. The Havoc would have two and the Littlebird would have three. The poll also assumes the people in the choppers are top of the food chain when it comes to what they are doing. Not random scrubs in the choppers.
With that reasoning I think the Havoc will come out on top 100% of the time.

Edit: changed thought mid sentence.

Last edited by MysteryJake (2008-01-02 14:48:00)

PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6452|Roma

Snake wrote:

Oh, and a UAV to spot all the enemies with....
Woah, UAV specifically in the killing area, ALL the time?  Seems a little shitty for anyone with out armour.
Surprised it didn't get nerfed, but then AF was at the end, in the throes of BF2...
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']['error
Banned
+630|6905|The Netherlands

Snake wrote:

3lmo wrote:

Can't you make a movie about that, Snake? Everybody is always saying how amazing the Littlebird is but I have barely seen any proof of it. (And no, I can't proof it myself, don't have AF)
Either:
1) Download my modded Tampa map and join us for the EU movie shoot on it (features 4 LB's, 4 Cobras, 4 A10's, 4 F15's...you get the point ) (or k3's modded Mashtuur that he made...also for the movie).
2) Watch my AF movie towards the end, all on Midnight Sun and Harvest
3) This that I got the other night: http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/ … 2ae86f.png (Behe/Gary as repair and AT-mine whores).


Or...wait until I do make one, I dont play with fraps on much anymore as it doesnt let xfire work at the same time

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

That's what I meant with the alley thing, the Havoc can easily put five rounds in an alley from almost any direction and completely saturate it, the littlebird has to maneuver either close to ground level or in an almost vertical position.
True...but then the LB doesnt have to have line of sight to fire around a corner...
Link to the tampa? and maybe the mashtuur one too? I would love to rape some infantery & tanks
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6999|Massachusetts.

PrivateVendetta wrote:

Woah, UAV specifically in the killing area, ALL the time?  Seems a little shitty for anyone with out armour.
Surprised it didn't get nerfed, but then AF was at the end, in the throes of BF2...
Yep. Not as big as the commander's UAV, though.
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6642|the land of bourbon
LB by far.  since most of the retard gunners out there can't hit infantry with there 2 fps and 60% view distance, the bird takes care of all your infy killing needs.  it's excellent at dodging the tv missle, and makes short work of all the other attack helis.  the only weakness is the fact it cannot stand up to armor.
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Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6260|Vortex Ring State
Mi-28. Has splash damage.
avman633
Member
+116|6625

fermatx wrote:

Mi-28. Has splash damage.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6936|Florida, United States

Me.
Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6589

fermatx wrote:

Mi-28. Has splash damage.
And the little bird doesn't? Because it does. And its good. I gotta get on some AF servers i'd like to practice more with the little choppers
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Cyrax-Sektor
Official Battlefield fanboy
+240|6409|San Antonio, Texas

Im_Dooomed wrote:

fermatx wrote:

Mi-28. Has splash damage.
And the little bird doesn't? Because it does. And its good. I gotta get on some AF servers i'd like to practice more with the little choppers
Go LegionAtWar or =SF= when they're back.
Toilet Sex
one love, one pig
+1,775|6833

Depends on the pilots in my opinion. I've raped the Littlebird with the Havok before but if a Littlebird pilot knows what he's doing, they're hard to hit. The Havok is like a flying hippo so even with a decent pilot the LB will take it down 9 times out of 10.

I'd vote for the Littlebird.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Oh, as for the LB beating an attack heli in a 1v1, these are top players in both vehicles. TV shot wouldn't miss.
They wouldn't miss, no, but it'd go through until you find the LB's hitbox on the other side of the map.

Last edited by Toilet Sex (2008-01-02 15:42:15)

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