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2008-01-04 08:08:16
mikeyc159
Member
+3|6731|Colorado, USA
Looking to build my first computer. Right now i play off an old Dell XPS laptop that barely runs Battlefield 2, let alot 2145. Still learning about computer compnents and what works well together, but this is what i came up with.

Case: Sigma Gaming LaVie Med-Tower Case w/ Window And Leather Trim Front Panel 420 Watts Power Supply with an extra fan and Enermax Eg565p 535 watt power supply upgrade – SLI Ready

CPU: Intel Quad Core Q6600 – Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Cooling fan

Motherboard: Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset

Memory: 2GB Corsair DDR2

Video Card: XFX/NVIDIA 8600GT 512MB x2

Monitor: 20 Widescreen from ViewSonic

Hard Drive: 250GB 7200RPM

Optical Drive: 20x DVD-R/RW DR-R/RW Dual Layer

Sound Card: 3D Wave On-Board 5.1

Speakers: 600 Watt PMPO Subwoofer Stereo Speakers

Network: Killer K1 10/100/1000 Gigabit High Speed PCI Network Card

Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit

All of this comes in at around $1600. If you guys could help me out and let me know if this will runs well or if there are compnents i should change or upgrade, that would be awesome.
2008-01-04 08:12:20
Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6783|Florida
2 8600GTs in SLI is useless. Get one 8800GTS 512MB and your fine. Id suggest a bigger hard drive as well. You probably want 4 GB of ram if youre going to run 64 bit vista and a better motherboard.
2008-01-04 08:14:50
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6892|Finland

OMG change the GFX cards mate. Get a 8800GTS 512MB or HD 3870! And a Corsair HX520 for PSU. And a P35 mobo. SLi is just waste of money in that price range. I would suggest a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R. And 4GB ram for your Vista.
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2008-01-04 08:15:03
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6918|Brisbane, Australia

Ok, couple of things.

1. The video cards - SLi is a waste generally, especially with non top of the range cards. Much better off getting a single card for the same price as the two. Motherboard will also be cheaper then.

2. Where are you getting this from? Newegg is generally the best US shop afaik.

3. Any reasoning behind the 64-bit?

4. Likewise the LAN card - motherboards now have that all built in.

5. You'll need a power supply - the generic case one will not be any good.
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2008-01-04 08:19:29
mikeyc159
Member
+3|6731|Colorado, USA
Like i said i am new to all this. I found a website called cyberpowerpc.com. I will check out newegg.
2008-01-04 08:48:13
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7159|Disaster Free Zone
$1600 budget? I believe you could get a much better set up then that. As some have already said SLi is just not worth it, the performance gains are definitely not worth the money.

Here's my thread about a new gaming computer. But I'll update the parts for what I actually got (am getting soon).

PartItemPrice $AUNotes
CaseANTEC Nine Hundred$159Bought special - $145
CPUIntel Core 2 Quad Q6600$310Bought Special - $275
PSUSilverStone ST75ZF 750w$199
MotherBoardASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP$205
Video CardInno3D 8800GT$336Bought special - $325
RAMDDR2 Ram 4GB Kit (2x 2048MB) PC6400 800MHz GeiL Ultra 5-5-5-15$187
Hard Drive3.5" HDD SATA-300 500GB 32MB Seagate$187 - Times 2 (Raid 1)Bought special - $165
Optical Drives5.25" SATA DVD Buner/Rw SONY AD-7071S/0B OEM Black$39 - Times 2
Monitor22" Samsung 226BW (2ms/3000:1/DVI)$399
Total$2247Bought - $2143


A bit over your budget? Well AU prices are about 20% then the US (exchange rate + freight cost etc), which alone cuts it to ~$1715 (but you'll have to check US prices), then drop the expensive case, second HD and if you don't care about wireless get the standard ASUS P5K-E (or even a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R), maybe get a 8800 GTS instead of the GT and the speakers you want. Hopefully it will be in budget.
2008-01-04 09:05:43
Dragonclaw
Member
+186|6783|Florida

mikeyc159 wrote:

Like i said i am new to all this. I found a website called cyberpowerpc.com. I will check out newegg.
If youre going to buy anything PC related in the US go to newegg. Everywhere else fails.
2008-01-04 09:24:40
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|7056|Columbus, OH
You can probably save some money if you got rid of the Network: Killer K1 10/100/1000 Gigabit High Speed PCI Network Card.

Last edited by loubot (2008-01-04 09:25:19)

2008-01-04 10:40:35
aimless
Member
+166|6603|Texas

loubot wrote:

You can probably save some money if you got rid of the Network: Killer K1 10/100/1000 Gigabit High Speed PCI Network Card.
Yeah, overpriced and not worth it.
2008-01-04 10:46:28
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7195|Riva, MD

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

Ok, couple of things.

1. The video cards - SLi is a waste generally, especially with non top of the range cards. Much better off getting a single card for the same price as the two. Motherboard will also be cheaper then.

2. Where are you getting this from? Newegg is generally the best US shop afaik.

3. Any reasoning behind the 64-bit?

4. Likewise the LAN card - motherboards now have that all built in.

5. You'll need a power supply - the generic case one will not be any good.
The built-in LAN card is garbage and uses CPU power to do what it does.  I must admit that the Killer NIC is a little overboard though.  Just get a $10 -50 Intel one and that should do way better than your onboard without being problematic and overly expensive.
2008-01-04 10:49:03
theknuck
It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!
+45|7090|balls
$1600 will get you a hella lot more my friend.  since you live in the us, go to newegg.com and make a wishlist or two.  put your items you want in there and compare.  heres an example that i just made.  spend the extra on a 19" widescreen, there cheap nowadays, and then get a cheap operating system.  i'd personally hold off on vista until sp1 as you said you are new to computers and sticking with xp will give you less a headache.  trust me. 


   

   
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: RC-1000-KSN1-GP
Item #: N82E16811119138
$179.99
   

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: 122-CK-NF68-A1
Item #: N82E16813188013
$264.99
   

EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: 512-P3-N841-A3
Item #: N82E16814130312
$359.99
   

Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0106RU
Item #: N82E16817153039
$169.99
   

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80562Q6600
Item #: N82E16819115017
$274.99
   

Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AL804 - Retail
Model #: BL2KIT12864AL804
Item #: N82E16820148076
$74.99
   

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250410AS
Item #: N82E16822148262
$69.99
   

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM
$29.99


Subtotal:     $1,424.92

Last edited by theknuck (2008-01-04 10:51:10)

2008-01-04 11:05:15
']['error
Banned
+630|7122|The Netherlands

theknuck wrote:

$1600 will get you a hella lot more my friend.  since you live in the us, go to newegg.com and make a wishlist or two.  put your items you want in there and compare.  heres an example that i just made.  spend the extra on a 19" widescreen, there cheap nowadays, and then get a cheap operating system.  i'd personally hold off on vista until sp1 as you said you are new to computers and sticking with xp will give you less a headache.  trust me. 


   

   
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: RC-1000-KSN1-GP
Item #: N82E16811119138
$179.99
   

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: 122-CK-NF68-A1
Item #: N82E16813188013
$264.99
   

EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: 512-P3-N841-A3
Item #: N82E16814130312
$359.99
   

Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0106RU
Item #: N82E16817153039
$169.99
   

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80562Q6600
Item #: N82E16819115017
$274.99
   

Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AL804 - Retail
Model #: BL2KIT12864AL804
Item #: N82E16820148076
$74.99
   

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250410AS
Item #: N82E16822148262
$69.99
   

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM
$29.99


Subtotal:     $1,424.92
without monitor that is, it needs to be 1600 incl. monitor!

Go with drunkens configuration, it'll be arround 1700 US dollars, swap the 22" with a 20" monitor if you're really tight on your 1600 dollar budget.
2008-01-04 11:07:43
Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|7025
U forgot Vista  . . .   I think he needs to buy this as well unless it is already in their possession
2008-01-04 11:11:55
']['error
Banned
+630|7122|The Netherlands

']['error wrote:

theknuck wrote:

$1600 will get you a hella lot more my friend.  since you live in the us, go to newegg.com and make a wishlist or two.  put your items you want in there and compare.  heres an example that i just made.  spend the extra on a 19" widescreen, there cheap nowadays, and then get a cheap operating system.  i'd personally hold off on vista until sp1 as you said you are new to computers and sticking with xp will give you less a headache.  trust me. 


   
the nucks pc parts


Subtotal:     $1,424.92
without monitor that is, it needs to be 1600 incl. monitor!

Go with drunkens configuration, it'll be arround 1700 US dollars, swap the 22" with a 20" monitor if you're really tight on your 1600 dollar budget.

DrunkFace wrote:

$1600 budget? I believe you could get a much better set up then that. As some have already said SLi is just not worth it, the performance gains are definitely not worth the money.
Here's my thread about a new gaming computer. But I'll update the parts for what I actually got (am getting soon).

PartItemPrice $AUNotes
CaseANTEC Nine Hundred$159Bought special - $145
CPUIntel Core 2 Quad Q6600$310Bought Special - $275
PSUSilverStone ST75ZF 750w$199
MotherBoardASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP$205
Video CardInno3D 8800GT$336Bought special - $325
RAMDDR2 Ram 4GB Kit (2x 2048MB) PC6400 800MHz GeiL Ultra 5-5-5-15$187
Hard Drive3.5" HDD SATA-300 500GB 32MB Seagate$187 - Times 2 (Raid 1)Bought special - $165
Optical Drives5.25" SATA DVD Buner/Rw SONY AD-7071S/0B OEM Black$39 - Times 2
Monitor22" Samsung 226BW (2ms/3000:1/DVI)$399
Total$2247Bought - $2143
$2143 AUD --> 1711,00 US dollar
2008-01-04 11:15:53
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|7016|Long Island, New York
Drop the NIC card, it's not worth it. Instead get an G92 8800 GTS 512 MB.  Think about getting a 74 gig raptor for your OS and priority games. Up the PSU too. 700 watts at the minimum.

What ']['error listed is perfect. That's an awesome gaming rig and if you decide to go with a G92 GTS, you'll be able to run Crysis (zomg) on very high (DX10) settings. That monitor's pure sex btw. I have it and love it.
2008-01-04 11:18:46
Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|7025
I think newegg is a little cheaper as well.
2008-01-04 11:22:44
Volatile
Member
+252|7182|Sextupling in Empire

I had a bad experience with the p5n-e board(2 of them actually), as I couldn't get it stable. I think there were some other members(Jsnipy) that had problems as well. I would suggest trying another board.
2008-01-04 11:33:00
Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|7025
I have a p5n-e board and it took some work to get it running good.  If you want to learn about motherboards/bios go with this board.

My advice go with a P35 and stay away from SLi
2008-01-04 12:25:28
mikeyc159
Member
+3|6731|Colorado, USA
OK, thanks for all your help guys, you have been awesome. I went through drunkens list on newegg but couldn't find all the same parts but this is what i came up with with a price tag of $1588 without and operating system, becasue i am not sure what to get i want Vista but i don't want to have to deal with any problems as someone said.

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: Nine Hundred

ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5K-E/WIFI-AP

XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: PVT88PYDF4

SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V 750W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: SST-ST75ZF

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80562Q6600

CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3500320AS

SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: 226BW

SONY 18X DVD±R DVD Burner Black ATAPI/EIDE Model DRU180A - Retail
Model #: DRU180A

Some of the compnenets are a diferent brand like the video card, i couldn't find an Inno 3d.
2008-01-04 12:27:33
mikeyc159
Member
+3|6731|Colorado, USA

Volatile wrote:

I had a bad experience with the p5n-e board(2 of them actually), as I couldn't get it stable. I think there were some other members(Jsnipy) that had problems as well. I would suggest trying another board.
What do you mean you had problems getting it running?
2008-01-04 12:29:13
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7234|Scotland

Are you in a rush to get this? Wait till start of february to get the new Quad Cores. Cheaper and much better. No point in throwing out cash for the Q6600.
2008-01-04 12:35:38
Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|7025
good point zimmer.
2008-01-04 12:45:02
mikeyc159
Member
+3|6731|Colorado, USA

Zimmer wrote:

Are you in a rush to get this? Wait till start of february to get the new Quad Cores. Cheaper and much better. No point in throwing out cash for the Q6600.
How much better are they going to be? I am not really in a rush just looking to buy very soon.
2008-01-04 12:56:22
HITNRUNXX
Member
+220|7188|Oklahoma City
Not a lot different than what other people are saying but:

1) Lose the Killer NIC.
2) Get a single 8800GTS (Or hell, they are on sale around here for $100, SLI these instead, if you have to SLI something)
3) I personally would go with an EVGA 680i board (Best board I have ever used) or maybe the new EVGA 780i board if money isn't an issue.
4) I personally wouldn't be put off of Vista, though I would not use the 64-bit version. Stick with the 32 bit.
2008-01-04 12:58:22
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7234|Scotland

mikeyc159 wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Are you in a rush to get this? Wait till start of february to get the new Quad Cores. Cheaper and much better. No point in throwing out cash for the Q6600.
How much better are they going to be? I am not really in a rush just looking to buy very soon.
As in like 2x better.

The new one
Core 2 Quad Q9450        2667 MHz    2 × 6144 KiB    1333 MT/s    8x

The old one
Core 2 Quad Q6600                   2400MHz       2x4096KiB            1066MT/s        9x

Basically : Total annihilation.


@HITNRUN

I disagree, if anything 64-bit is the way to go.
64bit = 4GB + of RAM. Much safer bet. Plus, nearly all the niggles are ironed out now and the SP1 is coming out soon enough ( Feb )

 

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