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A blank BD cost as much as one with a movie on it..lol. It's more economical to give your money to the studios.

Do you guys remember this?

Put Universal on the uh-oh list. At least for right now.
Today: Universal HD DVD exclusivity contract has expired, sits non-renewed

Varegg wrote:

Partially agree with Topal and Zimmer since there certainly is no question about the heightened experience from watching lets say Lord of the Rings on Blu-Ray with DTS-HD and a True-HD 50" Pioneer plasma.

High tech movies made with the newest tech in mind is not just a good story anymore but an thrilling experience, but that is all about the type of movie you choose - Bruce allmighty and those kinda movies the experience is close to the same on DVD and Blu-Ray/HDDVD.

And of course it has everything to do with interest

That is a matter of taste. My favorite two in my Blu-ray collection are Training Day and The Departed. I have movies with better special effects. But despite the home theater setup I reach for them more when I am looking for enjoyment... not just eye and ear candy.

Jenspm wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Partially agree with Topal and Zimmer since there certainly is no question about the heightened experience from watching lets say Lord of the Rings on Blu-Ray with DTS-HD and a True-HD 50" Pioneer plasma.

High tech movies made with the newest tech in mind is not just a good story anymore but an thrilling experience, but that is all about the type of movie you choose - Bruce allmighty and those kinda movies the experience is close to the same on DVD and Blu-Ray/HDDVD.

And of course it has everything to do with interest

That is a matter of taste. My favorite two in my Blu-ray collection are Training Day and The Departed. I have movies with better special effects, but despite the home theater setup I will reach for them more when I am looking for enjoyment... not just eye and ear candy.

I bet Master and Commander is epic on your system.

If you haven't tried it, you should, it's the #1 surround sound tester

I think you told me about that once.. I keep forgetting to try it. My Favs for sound are Pearl harbor and The Patriot. The scene from Troy when Achilles is storming the beach is killer also.

There is a scene in I am Legend where a lion attacks a gazelle. It jumps out of nowhere and the roar comes behind you, with tremendous Bass. I told my friends that they would jump, and it didn't matter if I warned them. I made them put their drinks down...lol

topal63 wrote:

"I am legend" is already out on blu-ray or dvd?

No - probably the trailer.

Kmarion wrote:

topal63 wrote:

"I am legend" is already out on blu-ray or dvd?

My neighbor reviews for a local paper. She gets screeners.

Cool deal.

Ooh, by the way does your Sony XBR4 do movies at the 24fps native movie frame rate?

Last edited by topal63 (2008-01-10 12:33:26)

HD DVD is dead. Paramount and Universal are its only supporters, and they'd be better off in the Blu-ray camp with, you know, everyone else. If they jump ship, HD DVD will be in the "Losers" section of the Technology Museum.

edit: I don't think a player has to support 1080p24 for it to work. It might be a Profile 1.1 feature, not sure, but it just depends on the film in question and the TV.

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-01-10 12:36:52)

HurricaИe wrote:

HD DVD is dead. Paramount and Universal are its only supporters, and they'd be better off in the Blu-ray camp with, you know, everyone else. If they jump ship, HD DVD will be in the "Losers" section of the Technology Museum.

edit: I don't think a player has to support 1080p24 for it to work. It might be a Profile 1.1 feature, not sure, but it just depends on the film in question and the TV.

Your right.  I just don't think HD-DVD is that bad though.  It has 10GB less storage then blue-ray and at least can be used as a storage medium other than a way to watch movies.

Then again both could get crushed by digital downloads.   Xbox 360 offers a lot of HD(720P right now) for rental for $4 or so.

Kmarion wrote:

If the player doesn't support it how can it be done natively .

Eh? If the disc holds the video encoded in 1080p24, all the player has to do is output that signal to the TV which supports 1080p24.

And yeah Brizzer, HD DVD didn't seem bad or anything... but since not all the companies took the "make for both platforms" approach, I'm glad one of them died. And the fact that I own a BRD player but not an HD DVD player makes me even more glad that HD DVD is pretty much done.

As for digital downloads, until the US has internet that doesn't suck you won't get much HD digital distribution. The internet services in the US, for the most part, simply couldn't send uncompressed 1080p24 video with DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD audio in a fast fashion. Those Swedes and South Koreans though...

Jenspm wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If the player doesn't support it how can it be done natively .

Eh? If the disc holds the video encoded in 1080p24, all the player has to do is output that signal to the TV which supports 1080p24.

But if the player doesn't support it, it cannot send that signal.

It's like asking a cell phone with-out bluetooth to send bluetooth signals to a PC.

Well I'm 99.9% positive all Profile 1.1 players support it.

HurricaИe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If the player doesn't support it how can it be done natively .

Eh? If the disc holds the video encoded in 1080p24, all the player has to do is output that signal to the TV which supports 1080p24.

Like I said the player needs to be 24 fps compatible. Tv's and some receivers can compensate the frame rate, but then it is not considered native (Exactly how the director shot it). I think almost all players are 24p compatible now. The older ones needed a firmware update to allow the frame rate though.

That reminds me of another thing. If you guys have these players make sure you check regularly for updates. My player ran slow when it would boot or eject disc. I did a firmware update last week and the difference is huge.

Varegg wrote:

The opening fight scene from Gladiator is also a killer with a high def sound and picture, on a lesser system the rambling of the horses throught the forrest is horrible and the picture just a blur .... on a high def system the sound is crystal and makes you shiver and the pictures makes you afraid of horses for a couple of days

That is because there is audio loss on standard Dvds. On the bigger BD and HD-DVD disc they can put uncompressed audio. I first noticed the difference in Pirates of the Carribean. Just the little things like hearing Jack's earings smack together when he turned his head.

Kmarion wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If the player doesn't support it how can it be done natively .

Eh? If the disc holds the video encoded in 1080p24, all the player has to do is output that signal to the TV which supports 1080p24.

Like I said the player needs to be 24 fps compatible. Tv's and some receivers can compensate the frame rate, but then it is not considered native (Exactly how the director shot it). I think almost all players are 24p compatible now. The older ones needed a firmware update to allow the frame rate though.

That reminds me of another thing. If you guys have these players make sure you check regularly for updates. My player ran slow when it would boot or eject disc. I did a firmware update last week and the difference is huge.

My PS3 always nags when there's a new update for it One firmware update included profile 1.1

Jenspm wrote:

I have one of the the previous generations of the Pioneer Plasma. It's not 1080p Full HD, but "HD-Ready" (1080i?). Will I notice the difference between normal DVD and Blu-Ray?

Yes, it is the same difference between Standard def and most HD broadcast.