BF2S Forums The time has come to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein

PluggedValve wrote:

san4 wrote:

I thought Edwards openly acknowledged that his support for the war was wrong.

Wikipedia wrote:

Although Edwards initially supported the Iraq War, he later re-evaluated his position and in November 2005 wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post in which he said he regretted voting for the Iraq War Resolution, and discussed three solutions for success in the conflict.

I think you are right.  Hindsight is 20/20 though.  Still better to admit a mistake than to continue the mistake even after it has been exposed.  WMD's much?????

I just dont understand how they believed the "eveidence" (using the term loosely) when it was released. 
Colin Powell/ Rumsfeld  "right here we see a mobile chem lab"
Edwards   " It looks like a truck"
Powell/ Rumsfeld  "that's what the enemy wants you to think"
Edwards  "OK, thats good enough for me.  Someone has to pay for 9/11 right or wrong, Lets go to war"

2 years later
Edwards  "Well it appears i made a mitake about the war in Iraq.  The voters have told me that they will only vote for me if i change my stance.  And the mobile chem lab also turned out to be a truck."

Colin Powell: Terrorists are not greatest threat to nation.

"What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say it's terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves. So what is the great threat we are facing?"

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/20 … ll-te.html

"Former secretary of state Colin L. Powell said yesterday that he decided to publicly oppose the Bush administration's proposed rules for the treatment of terrorism suspects in part because the plan would add to growing doubts about whether the United States adheres to its own moral code."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01414.html

"The former American secretary of state Colin Powell has revealed that he spent 2½ hours vainly trying to persuade President George W Bush not to invade Iraq and believes today’s conflict cannot be resolved by US forces."
Powell tried to talk Bush out of war

If you want to know the truth about Colin Powell I suggest you read this.

Powell was forced into a position he did not want to be in. Educate yourselves.

Dersmikner wrote:

CameronPoe, why do you think the UN still exists? I really have no idea at this point. Most of Europe bitches about it, we hate it, and I don't know who the hell is really for it...

I have no idea. Probably nobody has the balls to say 'Let's call it a day'. Nobody wants to take the blame.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-01-15 12:00:01)

IRONCHEF wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, Edwards has openly and repeatedly admitted being WRONG in his estimate.  that alone makes him 100x more honest, believable, and credible a leader than the current presidential candidates who haven't said that.  Oh wait, they all have except that senile old turd from Arizona who is winning GOP votes.. lol

Winning GOP votes? If you believe the polls you might be suffering from a dose of dementia yourself.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I'm taking it this is the thread where we show how much politicians "flip-flop" (as if it is a bad thing to change your mind about something)?

Mitt Romney -
Pro-choice in 1994, Pro-Life in 2008.  Wait, though, supporting the Death Penalty isn't really pro-life is it?

Fred Thompson -
"Abortion should be legal in all circumstances for the first three months."  Describes himself now as pro-life and says "that was a mistake..."

I can find much more, maybe later I'll add some.

Let me know if you need help. I couldn't  care less about party affiliation. Both sides have been selling out the American people for a very long time now.

Edit: Remember my Dick Cheney thread?

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I originally thought of including Dick Cheney and GWB, but it is just too easy.

I know but I posted a video once before that was just plain creepy. I can't seem to find it.



Found it:

There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion about an issue after the facts. It's just annoying to see that one person is still taking blame for it while others who should be taking blame as well are the ones placing the blame.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

There's nothing wrong with changing your opinion about an issue after the facts. It's just annoying to see that one person is still taking blame for it while others who should be taking blame as well are the ones placing the blame.

because thats the price you pay for tainting your good name.

Im referring to Powell really.

It is true that we better ourselves by always re-evaluating our views. However, voting to send someone into a fight, and then voting to yank the funding they need to survive is tragically disgraceful.

Kmarion wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Im referring to Powell really.

He voiced his opinion prior to the war. But like a true military man he served his country and his President in the end.

Thats the thing.  He has more power than god as a general.  To see him ruin his image for the guy who has got a year left in office was sad and disappointing.

dont get me wrong, I just cant let the blame go for anyone on this.  I know Powell didnt want this.  Thats why he abstained from politics for so long.

as I think about it I know I would have done the same thing if I was in his shoes.  I mean, Im no pacifist or conscientious objector.