linux

2008-01-15 19:11:39

#1

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

i've been thinking about trying out linux for awhile now, and i think i'm gonna do it.

what i want to know is: what's the best distro for a newbie like me? i was thinking ubuntu would be a good place to start, but i want "real" linux --that is, something thats not too much like windows, but not too far away from it for me to be able to adjust to it easily. i figured if dell is shipping with this distro then it might not be the best one to use, but i as i said i'm new and don't really know what i'm talking about.

i have to go shoot a basketball game for a newspaper, so i'll check this thread in a few hours.

thanks for your input!

2008-01-15 21:26:23

#2

cospengle: Member; +140|6766|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Well since they're free, why not try a few and see which one you like.

If you want to try Linux beforehand you could try Knoppix - it's a distro that you can boot from a CD-ROM, so you wouldn't have to uninstall windows to check it out.

2008-01-15 21:30:12

#3

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

cospengle wrote:
Well since they're free, why not try a few and see which one you like.

If you want to try Linux beforehand you could try Knoppix - it's a distro that you can boot from a CD-ROM, so you wouldn't have to uninstall windows to check it out.

couldn't i just run it as a dual boot or install on my second hard drive?

and thanks for the idea, i'll be sure to check out knoppix.

2008-01-15 21:46:08

#4

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6743|cuntshitlake

Best choice for the first distro is most probably Ubuntu. And it can easily be installed beside windows, as well as booted from cd for tryout. I recommend.

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2008-01-15 22:11:16

#5

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

thanks guys.

2008-01-15 22:47:22

#6

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6279|The Mitten

We've already covered this here: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=85403

EE (hats

2008-01-15 23:11:57

#7

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

Morpheus1229 wrote:
We've already covered this here: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=85403

no, thats a totally different question being asked.

2008-01-15 23:21:56

#8

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6279|The Mitten

Sorry, but I thought there was a question in there that covered what you wanted.

Anyway, Ubuntu is a pretty good place to start.

EE (hats

2008-01-15 23:27:06

#9

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

Morpheus1229 wrote:
Sorry, but I thought there was a question in there that covered what you wanted.

Anyway, Ubuntu is a pretty good place to start.

np. sorry if i came off as harsh or anything in my other post.

i looked around in there and it just looked like a bunch of stuff about what linux was, not really anything about the distros. thanks for the advice though.

ubuntu is 33% DLed, it will be done in 15 minutes. i'll install over the weekend, and go from there.

2008-01-16 07:14:59

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Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

well now that we've decided i'm going to go with ubuntu linux, i have a few other questions.

i'm going to need drivers, and lots of em. is the ubuntu site the best place to look?

i'm reformatting my HDD (because it needs it, badly), and dumping anything i need to keep onto my second 320GB SATA drive. my 160 GB PATA drive i'm going to be dual partitioning--one for ubuntu, and one for windows. how should i split my partitions? half and half? should i just give ubuntu the minimum amount of necessary space?

also, that stuff that i dumped onto my second hard drive, i should be able to read shit off of there (that isn't strictly windows based, of course) right?

last one: does ubuntu have photoshop support or will i still need to do that in windows?

2008-01-16 07:33:59

#11

Gawwad: My way or Haddaway!; +212|6964|Espoo, Finland

Can't you instal some linux versions on a memory stick?
That would be kind of handy.

2008-01-16 07:35:40

#12

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6802|...

Gawwad wrote:
Can't you instal some linux versions on a memory stick?
That would be kind of handy.

knoppix

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2008-01-16 07:37:54

#13

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6929

It's fucking difficult to actually get to work though...

EDIT: Used a different guide than that one, may have to give that a go.

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2008-01-16 07:59:35

#14

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6477|Winland

I suggest installing Ubuntu first, since it's partitioner owns the WIndows one. Hard. Give it about 20-30GB if you're just gonna play around and still want space if you're gonna start "using" it.

Note that the swap partition should be at least 1GB.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-01-16 11:37:42

#15

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6279|The Mitten

Actually, you have to install Windows first, it gets bitch about installing next to other OS's...

And if you get the latest version of Ubuntu (I think it's still 7.10) it will have all the main drivers you need, and it will read pretty much all media (HDD partitions, hot-swaps usb, etc)

EE (hats

2008-01-16 15:07:58

#16

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

Morpheus1229 wrote:
Actually, you have to install Windows first, it gets bitch about installing next to other OS's...

And if you get the latest version of Ubuntu (I think it's still 7.10) it will have all the main drivers you need, and it will read pretty much all media (HDD partitions, hot-swaps usb, etc)

thanks dude. i'll probably be PMing you later if i run into trouble i can't find help for. .

2008-01-16 16:26:10

#17

Defiance: Member; +438|6950

I had no problem installing Ubuntu along with XP in a recent system "cleaning."

When I was installing XP, (I have a 200 GB main drive and 80 GB secondary) I set up a 100GB NTFS partition for Windows. Ran the installer and all that jazz, shut down the computer after XP boots.

Then run the Ubuntu disc. Once the OS boots from the disc, run the installer launcher on the desktop. It's a bit tricky so be glad you can use a browser to look for help if the partitioner gives you trouble. I selected manual and created 3 more partitions. 80 GB (or thereabouts) for Linux OS, 2 GB for swap and whatever was left on my secondary drive as a cross platform drive (Ubuntu 7.10 had no problems reading NTFS) to transfer music and other files.

From there, the Linux installer guides you. I recommend befriending google and searching extensively. Almost any problem you come across setting it up is covered somewhere on the vast internet.

Although, here's the one thing I can say that irritates me to no end using linux. Creative has not released open source data or Linux Drivers for xFi. If you have an xFi, your up shit creek and best enable Mobo sound or another sound card.

2008-01-16 18:24:48

#18

Ender2309: has joined the GOP; +470|6850|USA

Defiance wrote:
I had no problem installing Ubuntu along with XP in a recent system "cleaning."

When I was installing XP, (I have a 200 GB main drive and 80 GB secondary) I set up a 100GB NTFS partition for Windows. Ran the installer and all that jazz, shut down the computer after XP boots.

Then run the Ubuntu disc. Once the OS boots from the disc, run the installer launcher on the desktop. It's a bit tricky so be glad you can use a browser to look for help if the partitioner gives you trouble. I selected manual and created 3 more partitions. 80 GB (or thereabouts) for Linux OS, 2 GB for swap and whatever was left on my secondary drive as a cross platform drive (Ubuntu 7.10 had no problems reading NTFS) to transfer music and other files.

From there, the Linux installer guides you. I recommend befriending google and searching extensively. Almost any problem you come across setting it up is covered somewhere on the vast internet.

Although, here's the one thing I can say that irritates me to no end using linux. Creative has not released open source data or Linux Drivers for xFi. If you have an xFi, your up shit creek and best enable Mobo sound or another sound card.

thanks dude. i just use onboard sound so its good.

2008-01-16 18:43:25

#19

cospengle: Member; +140|6766|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Ender2309 wrote:
cospengle wrote:
Well since they're free, why not try a few and see which one you like.

If you want to try Linux beforehand you could try Knoppix - it's a distro that you can boot from a CD-ROM, so you wouldn't have to uninstall windows to check it out.
couldn't i just run it as a dual boot or install on my second hard drive?

Yeah, of course, but I thought you were looking to change to Linux exclusively. Dual boot is the most convenient way.

2008-01-16 18:56:05

#20

cospengle: Member; +140|6766|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Freezer7Pro wrote:
I suggest installing Ubuntu first, since it's partitioner owns the WIndows one. Hard. Give it about 20-30GB if you're just gonna play around and still want space if you're gonna start "using" it.

Note that the swap partition should be at least 1GB.

Morpheus1229 wrote:
Actually, you have to install Windows first, it gets bitch about installing next to other OS's...

And if you get the latest version of Ubuntu (I think it's still 7.10) it will have all the main drivers you need, and it will read pretty much all media (HDD partitions, hot-swaps usb, etc)

I've heard that windows can be a bit picky. I installed Knoppix then Windows on the same laptop and had no problems, but I didn't use it very much so I probably wouldn't have run into too much trouble. Of course the recovery CD that came with the laptop (XP) thought it had landed on Mars when I went to reformat.

It's a bit bewildering coming from a windows background to figure out what distro is best. There's so much lingo that you haven't had to worry about with Windows and even on the Linux forums there's so many differing opinion (many of which seem to be based on geeky fanboyness rather than facts).

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