Do people have the right to fully judge a soldier who has been in combat, when they themselves have never experienced fighting on the same scale. Such as actions that may have been taken by the soldier in order to preserve his own life, the life of his friends or the fate of a mission? Is it right that they judge the mindset or feelings that a soldier may have after he has been in combat?
Well if you're talking about people going crazy and shooting all the civilians in the area. Then yes.
Because, if the majority of soldiers can do it without resorting to massacring the local population. What's wrong with that guy to go and do it.
Because, if the majority of soldiers can do it without resorting to massacring the local population. What's wrong with that guy to go and do it.
Nah, not the ones who do that, I mean is it right for someone to judge a soldier who may have a hatred for the enemy he was fighting, if they have little or no understanding of the circumstances?Mek-Izzle wrote:
Well if you're talking about people going crazy and shooting all the civilians in the area. Then yes.
Because, if the majority of soldiers can do it without resorting to massacring the local population. What's wrong with that guy to go and do it.
When you've been in combat scenario's you as a soldier have an attitude of 'I don't give a fuck, I'm staying alive' and you will protect your ass, and your mates. Fuck what the pacifists think. I have a family and I am staying alive for them was my attitude.
If they've never experienced it under fire, they shouldn't spout off what they don't understand. When rounds are coming in its very fucking hard to take in all the information of battle orders being screamed at you, spotting the enemy, trying to preserve civilian life, firing your weapon effectively, then you have possible stoppages (weapon jam). You are literally probably under contact for minutes but it seems like a lifetime. And its fucking scary.
If they've never experienced it under fire, they shouldn't spout off what they don't understand. When rounds are coming in its very fucking hard to take in all the information of battle orders being screamed at you, spotting the enemy, trying to preserve civilian life, firing your weapon effectively, then you have possible stoppages (weapon jam). You are literally probably under contact for minutes but it seems like a lifetime. And its fucking scary.
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The simple answer would be, no. (See daddyofdeath's post)
If I was in his situation or any other soldier's situation I would have the exact same mindset as that and I call anyone a liar who said that they didn't.
If I was in his situation or any other soldier's situation I would have the exact same mindset as that and I call anyone a liar who said that they didn't.
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Seeing as in the same way that everyone else judges everyone else without knowing what they've been through I go for yes.
If the feelings or mindset of a returned soldier adversely affects other people (like in an "I'm pissed off and am going to smother my kids" or an "I'm having a flashback and am going to kill everything I see" way), then Hell yes, just like anybody else.M.O.A.B wrote:
Do people have the right to fully judge a soldier who has been in combat, when they themselves have never experienced fighting on the same scale. Such as actions that may have been taken by the soldier in order to preserve his own life, the life of his friends or the fate of a mission? Is it right that they judge the mindset or feelings that a soldier may have after he has been in combat?
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I'd probably agree with this, of course, I will never attempt to out-knowledge a soldier on the situation fo a warzone they have been in. Prime examples include some of the stories I've heard on here, which paint far different pictures to those presented on the news.KILLSWITCH wrote:
The simple answer would be, no. (See daddyofdeath's post)
If I was in his situation or any other soldier's situation I would have the exact same mindset as that and I call anyone a liar who said that they didn't.
Who judges those actions? As far as I understand the criticism soldiers receive upon their return from duty has to do with their decision to join, not what follows.M.O.A.B wrote:
Do people have the right to fully judge a soldier who has been in combat, when they themselves have never experienced fighting on the same scale. Such as actions that may have been taken by the soldier in order to preserve his own life, the life of his friends or the fate of a mission? Is it right that they judge the mindset or feelings that a soldier may have after he has been in combat?
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No amount of boot camp trains someone for the horrors of war.
Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Hell No
Long Answer: Hell No
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Sure as hell can we judge but we can´t fully understand that´s a major difference if we were´nt allowed to even judge lol you could´nt judge anything unless you been there done that yourself. Islam and muslims came to my mind hmm allot of judging there without experience.
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You have every right to say what you want. Then its your obligation to deal with the reprocussions.M.O.A.B wrote:
Do people have the right to fully judge a soldier who has been in combat, when they themselves have never experienced fighting on the same scale. Such as actions that may have been taken by the soldier in order to preserve his own life, the life of his friends or the fate of a mission? Is it right that they judge the mindset or feelings that a soldier may have after he has been in combat?
If a soldier kills 1-2 civillians in the heat of battle, he should not be or discharged or face prison time. Other than that, it is not wrong to hate your enemy if they truly merit it. If you are talking an entire culture, then no it is not ok.