GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

Ok. This is the problem:

Some idiot keeps flaming me that you can't compare single, dual and quad core CPUs and the new GFX cards with multiple cores to single core GPUs because it is "unfair"....

he fails to even read my posts properly....
and his posts are just so ridiculous...

This is one of his post....

"Riiiiiiight.
I see how it is now.
I mean after all, it is fair to compare the performance of a single core cpu to that of a dual core.
I guess it's also fair to compare a PC with 1 dimm of 4 megs of ram to a PC with 1 dimm of 4 gigs of ram. Or hard drives of a similar ridiculously unbalanced sort. Throw everything out! It's all fair game!!!

...I fail to see the logic behind this.

You compare a single die gpu to a single die gpu. Not a single to a dual or a quad, octo or whatever comes next. Don't be ridiculous.
Is this what AMD and ATi have resorted to? "Well we can't beat them FAIRLY (ie core vs core), so we'll throw the rule book out and beat them on ANOTHER level." "

Fking fanbois...
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nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6603|New Haven, CT
You win at price performance, not how that is achieved (unless looking at power/cooling). If AMD managed to get a dual-GPU solution for the same price as a single one of Intel, their core architecture may be weaker, the cards they are presenting is not.
Defiance
Member
+438|6950

This is more about forum conduct then tech, no? Don't talk to him/her if they're such a tool.

Let me rephrase that, you're right any hardware can be compared to another piece of the same type of component. However, they just want verification, however little, of their opinion.

Last edited by Defiance (2008-01-30 22:50:11)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6876|Seattle

Tell him apples are cars that drive real fast, but not on THESE roads!   OOOHhhh! dis!   


wait... whu?


I got nuthin'. 
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

my gawd he is an idiot...

see this post... lulz....
http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showpos … stcount=88

stupid nvidia fanboi flaming me even tho I have nv card... ......

EDIT: He is saying that comparing the HD 3870 X2 to any nv card is like comparing  "4 megs of ram vs 1 stick with 4 gigs of ram".....

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-01-31 00:25:01)

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xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6650|Netherlands tbh
Just ignore him to be honest, seems like a kid without tech knowledge anyway.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

xGj wrote:

Just ignore him to be honest, seems like a kid without tech knowledge anyway.
that is kinda hard since he is following me to every thread...
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6732|The Twilight Zone
And the thread title is "The crown is passed to AMD!" Lulz Bunch of jokers.
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6964|Espoo, Finland
Bad case of trying to save face there...
He knows he's wrong and so does everyone else, but he's convinced that it's best to keep on arguing.

He's going to say "that's not my point, my point was" each time you disprove him.
Have fun, haha.

You could of course link him here.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6476|Winland

What an idiot.

Could you post this on my behalf? Can't find the registration link...

Well, comparing 4MB of RAM vs 4GB of RAM is a very fair benchmark indeed, as long as they're based on the same architecture/made for the same purpose. Of course the 4MB will be signifigantly slower than the 4GB on memory-demanding applications, but it's still comparable to the 4GB. So, with that, you're actually proving yourself wrong.

Imagine that scenario, and a program that requires 3MB of RAM. That would give the 4GB absolutely no advantage, if they're at the same speed.

With these graphics cards, it's the exact same issue. They display graphics on a monitor. They just do it at different speeds. They're very comparable indeed, and saying that they're not, is just idiotic.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6565|eng
Rape him and kill his family. That'll learn him.
#rekt
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6828|UK

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

my gawd he is an idiot...

see this post... lulz....
http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showpos … stcount=88

stupid nvidia fanboi flaming me even tho I have nv card... ......

EDIT: He is saying that comparing the HD 3870 X2 to any nv card is like comparing  "4 megs of ram vs 1 stick with 4 gigs of ram".....
Awsome, tell him Rodney Renalds is on his way to do some KICK ASS ownage /win

Martyn
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

wtf is wrong with him...... he is still comparing a ram stick to multi core CPUs because the ram stics have many chips.....
and my gawd he is a hardcore nvidia fanboy... he has to flame ATi products in every post and he erased the time ATi pwnt nv (9700pro-X800XT timeline) from the history.... and still ignores the fact that ATi has the fastest card atm... not his nvidia...
http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showpos … tcount=104
his posts are like this: "Wait until the GX2s come out and dominate ATi (again) like a rented mule (again)."
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xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6650|Netherlands tbh
Complete. Retard.
Diss him hard. Now
l41e
Member
+677|6927

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

wtf is wrong with him...... he is still comparing a ram stick to multi core CPUs because the ram stics have many chips.....
http://www.cvcoffee.com/prod_images_blo … Chips1.jpg

Show him that picture. Right before you demolish every "point" he's made in that thread, and the five below it.
Magpie
international welder....Douchebag Dude, <3 ur mom
+257|6805|Milkystania, yurop
Haev sexitime?

-Jabba
djphetal
Go Ducks.
+346|6615|Oregon
wow... that guy doesn't get it, does he?
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

djphetal wrote:

wow... that guy doesn't get it, does he?
no he doesn't... he is trying to ruin otherwise good tech forums...
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

the guy tried to save his face by starting to tell completely differenct stuff after just flaiming me two posts before.... and got aboard the failboat...
http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthr … amp;page=5
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Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6985

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Ok. This is the problem:

Some idiot keeps flaming me that you can't compare single, dual and quad core CPUs and the new GFX cards with multiple cores to single core GPUs because it is "unfair"....
What kind of supergeek flames people over hardware arguements?
avman633
Member
+116|6643
This isn't very tech related but I don't know what to say. I would ignore him or report him if he keeps acting like a fuck
$h0ck3r
"There is a problem with your connection"
+23|7120
LMAO
I'm not a die hard fan of either in fact I've said many many times I want ATi to do something good (long term) so nVidia has competition. I've owned PCs and Macs for over 20 years of varying brands; I have no loyalty to any of these companies.
ask him how he has owned PC's and macs for over 20 years, when he sounds like he is a 14-15 year old who bought his first gfx card and now he must praise their every move
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6748

WTF?

Tell him that life isn't fair and also that business isn't fair. Producing hardware isn't a game.

Freaking tool...
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
xRBLx
I've got lovely bunch of coconuts!!
+27|6634|England - Kent
So he is moaning that its unfair to compare a single CPU to a dual/quad CPU cos its more powerful?
You sir are a fool..
Yet look at his spec!
E2180 @ 3.2ghz...... 4GB RAM....... fighting his own logic.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

$h0ck3r wrote:

LMAO
I'm not a die hard fan of either in fact I've said many many times I want ATi to do something good (long term) so nVidia has competition. I've owned PCs and Macs for over 20 years of varying brands; I have no loyalty to any of these companies.
ask him how he has owned PC's and macs for over 20 years, when he sounds like he is a 14-15 year old who bought his first gfx card and now he must praise their every move
for some reason I can't believe him either since he said completely different in few posts later/before.
What is not right in the following...

I have ATi HD 3870 -> these nv fanbois flame me
I have nVidia 8800GTX -> these nv fanbois flame me



PS. this isn't his first time when he starts acting like a kid. He did the same on one CPU thread too in which he though his leet E2180 uses same core as my E6750...
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