Recently in Rhode Island politicians voted to move the 6th graders down to elementary school to save money. I'm moving up to 9th grade next year so it wont effect me. Alot of teachers at my school are losing their jobs. Some really great teachers who realllly need the money. The best part is that they have no plan on how to bus around all the states 6th graders. At the elementary school i used to go to there is no room at all in the school. They said that they would put giant trailers around the school and on the playground. That meens no recess. It also meens that tehy will lose there forgein language classes, tech edd classes, cooking classes and probably art and they wont be able to walk around between classes. i feel bad for them. people should be more concerned about there education than money
Yeah, public education is screwed up in America. Our governments' solutions are to either "do more with less" (i.e. spending and employee cuts) or throw money at the problem (usually in an alternating pattern)...neither works very well!
here's a novel idea........
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
And when has that ever worked?G3|Genius wrote:
here's a novel idea........
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I'd be curious to know if your states governor and other various elected officials draw close to 100% of their salaries on their pensions like it is here in kalifornia.MAGUIRE93 wrote:
Recently in Rhode Island politicians voted to move the 6th graders down to elementary school to save money. I'm moving up to 9th grade next year so it wont effect me. Alot of teachers at my school are losing their jobs. Some really great teachers who realllly need the money. The best part is that they have no plan on how to bus around all the states 6th graders. At the elementary school i used to go to there is no room at all in the school. They said that they would put giant trailers around the school and on the playground. That meens no recess. It also meens that tehy will lose there forgein language classes, tech edd classes, cooking classes and probably art and they wont be able to walk around between classes. i feel bad for them. people should be more concerned about there education than money
Department of Education.Spark wrote:
And when has that ever worked?G3|Genius wrote:
here's a novel idea........
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
Created 1979.
thats how it is here in cali. it works fine, its just a little different. hell, my high school has the damned portables, and they're the best classrooms on campus. they have the most room, the best lighting, they have independent air conditioning while the rest of the school has it done via the DISTRICT central office, they have the biggest white boards, and the best windows for day dreaming.
you're making a big deal of nothing, IMO. those teachers won't lose jobs, they're just going to be shifted to different schools. same amount of students=same amount of teachers.
you're making a big deal of nothing, IMO. those teachers won't lose jobs, they're just going to be shifted to different schools. same amount of students=same amount of teachers.
nope the principal and other teahcers said some people will be losseing jobEnder2309 wrote:
thats how it is here in cali. it works fine, its just a little different. hell, my high school has the damned portables, and they're the best classrooms on campus. they have the most room, the best lighting, they have independent air conditioning while the rest of the school has it done via the DISTRICT central office, they have the biggest white boards, and the best windows for day dreaming.
you're making a big deal of nothing, IMO. those teachers won't lose jobs, they're just going to be shifted to different schools. same amount of students=same amount of teachers.
6th grade was elementary school for me.
For once, we agree.G3|Genius wrote:
here's a novel idea........
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
how would you go about that?Turquoise wrote:
For once, we agree.G3|Genius wrote:
here's a novel idea........
PRIVATIZE EDUCATION!!
Also, from what i understand, vouchers just dont fucking work. I may be wrong though.
Vouchers are only a temporary solution and should only be used as a transition period toward privatizing education completely. The problem right now is that public education has been around so long that not much of a private market has been allowed to develop for education.
Vouchers should be used to slowly shift money toward a private education market. If given enough time, a suitable private market for education could develop to accomodate all levels of income.
Vouchers should be used to slowly shift money toward a private education market. If given enough time, a suitable private market for education could develop to accomodate all levels of income.
9 or 10 years ago we just moved 6th graders from Elementary School to Middle(Junior High)School.
so what about people who still cant afford it? the poorest children dont goto school?Turquoise wrote:
Vouchers are only a temporary solution and should only be used as a transition period toward privatizing education completely. The problem right now is that public education has been around so long that not much of a private market has been allowed to develop for education.
Vouchers should be used to slowly shift money toward a private education market. If given enough time, a suitable private market for education could develop to accomodate all levels of income.
Pretty much, ya.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
so what about people who still cant afford it? the poorest children dont goto school?Turquoise wrote:
Vouchers are only a temporary solution and should only be used as a transition period toward privatizing education completely. The problem right now is that public education has been around so long that not much of a private market has been allowed to develop for education.
Vouchers should be used to slowly shift money toward a private education market. If given enough time, a suitable private market for education could develop to accomodate all levels of income.
To be honest privatizing education wouldn't accomplish much. Rich kids who can afford private schools go there anyway.
its not like the option for private school isnt there right now for everyone. why make it the standard and make life harder for those that could benefit the most from an education.
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ExactlyGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its not like the option for private school isnt there right now for everyone. why make it the standard and make life harder for those that could benefit the most from an education.
why not drop senior year and move junior year to graduation?
i didnt learn anything senior year that i didnt already know
i didnt learn anything senior year that i didnt already know
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You learned how to wait an extra year to graduate.Locoloki wrote:
why not drop senior year and move junior year to graduation?
i didnt learn anything senior year that i didnt already know
if you think about it, it is feasible though, we can also skip a grade by not teaching kids how to write cursive, cause that is the biggest waste of bullshit i ever had to learnGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
You learned how to wait an extra year to graduate.Locoloki wrote:
why not drop senior year and move junior year to graduation?
i didnt learn anything senior year that i didnt already know
*do they still teach cursive?
Last edited by Locoloki (2008-02-01 20:36:57)
YesLocoloki wrote:
if you think about it, it is feasible though, we can also skip a grade by not teaching kids how to write cursive, cause that is the biggest waste of bullshit i ever had to learnGunSlinger OIF II wrote:
You learned how to wait an extra year to graduate.Locoloki wrote:
why not drop senior year and move junior year to graduation?
i didnt learn anything senior year that i didnt already know
*do they still teach cursive?
they ought to just give little kids a stencil of a keyboard face, and make em trace all the letters over repeatedly
Well, like I said, the transition from public to private education wouldn't be overnight. It would have to be a gradual process, beginning with school vouchers.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its not like the option for private school isnt there right now for everyone. why make it the standard and make life harder for those that could benefit the most from an education.
Markets take time to develop -- especially ones for lower incomes.
youre still going to have people not able to afford it. no matter how well the transition is.Turquoise wrote:
Well, like I said, the transition from public to private education wouldn't be overnight. It would have to be a gradual process, beginning with school vouchers.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its not like the option for private school isnt there right now for everyone. why make it the standard and make life harder for those that could benefit the most from an education.
Markets take time to develop -- especially ones for lower incomes.
Nah, keep education public. Tell the teachers at what level the kids need to be at by the end of the year and let them go nuts. Let the good teachers surface and the good students surface. This no-child left behind farce is ruining education.
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That's what welfare is for. If you're too poor to afford any school whatsoever, then the government ought to help out some.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
youre still going to have people not able to afford it. no matter how well the transition is.Turquoise wrote:
Well, like I said, the transition from public to private education wouldn't be overnight. It would have to be a gradual process, beginning with school vouchers.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its not like the option for private school isnt there right now for everyone. why make it the standard and make life harder for those that could benefit the most from an education.
Markets take time to develop -- especially ones for lower incomes.