Phrozenbot
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It has been known that gold has been manipulated, as investigated by GATA (Gold Anti-Trust Action committee), but as to why has been debated. But now it is clearly evident central banks have formed a gold cartel, and are flooding the market with gold.

The simple concept is that if you increase supply, you lower cost as you meet demand or surpass it. Now why would they flood the market with gold? Gold and fiat currencies are competitive because they are assets people usually invest it. If the dollar increases in value, gold will decrease in value, and visa versa. So if fiat currencies look strong like the US dollar (namely the dollar because it is the world's reserve currency), or the euro, the pound, the franc etc., they become more attractive for investors to invest in rather than gold.

Because of this, gold has been a barometer for inflation. If gold continues to become more expensive in said currency, it is a good indicator of the level inflation. However, by suppressing the gold price, gold becomes undervalued and the dollar becomes overvalued because people are investing in the dollar rather than gold, and since gold looks so weak the dollar looks strong.

Is this sinister or an act of necessity? Fiat currencies continue to depreciate, so it is a necessity to "keep the system going." The system is to have confidence in the international reserve currency; the dollar. All fiat currencies are based on confidence.

GATA, with many highly respected people on the committee and consultants such as Reg Howe, Frank Veneroso, James Turk, and John Embry, they provide a compelling case for their argument.


Trailer to Gold Rush 21.


Summery video from Gold Rush 21 - Part 1.


Summery video from Gold Rush 21 - Part 2.


Summery video from Gold Rush 21 - Part 3

The DVD was made back in 2005, but so far they have been right.
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If we measure an ounce of gold back in the 1980, which would have been $850, from the CPI back when Jimmy Carter was president, gold's real price would be at $6,255 an ounce today. And if we measure by the CPI today, gold should be at $2,310 an ounce. What this shows is that gold is very much undervalued, and severely if we go by the CPI during Carter's administration (sourced from shadowstats.com).

Your income is supposed to adjust to inflation with the current fiat system, but I believe inflation is higher than being reported and therefore is not adjusting, but that is a different story. However, because currencies are depreciating, gold is becoming more and more attractive with investors. Many people in India and China invest in gold because they do not trust their government. In fact a lot of gold is not accounted for in China.

This certainly isn't good for the dollar when right now it is dependent on foreign investors. You can't defeat the market. They tried with the London gold pool, they tried distorting 10,000 tons out of Fort Knox under Nixon and Johnson, and they are doing it now more than ever. Central banks can't continue to do this forever. Central banks only have half the gold they say they have, and they probably won't get any of it back.

Yet they continue to deny this. GATA is facing many powerful people such as the US Gov and their big advertisers like Goldman Sachs, and JP Morgen. They payed the Wall Street Journal $264,426.2 to put in an ad, but not surprisingly the Wall Street Journal did not write an article about GATA.. But now they are taking their case to Washington, DC on April 17th using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

https://www.gata.org/files/GATA-AD-01-29-2008_lrg.jpg
This is their ad that was not published by the Wall Street Journal.

Gold is eventually going to explode in the future. It is a strong asset to invest in. If you would like to profit, I suggest getting your hands on physical gold. You can contact a local coin dealer, or can't find one or don't trust one, you can buy digital gold where a company stores the gold for you such as www.goldmoney.com and www.kitco.com.

At the time this DVD was made, gold was around $450 an ounce and is now currently $907. Gold is still cheap. However, if you are to invest, I would also invest in silver. Silver is called the poor man's gold, but it is sometimes called the smart man's gold. Silver has more industrial use than gold, and some say is has more potential than gold.

However, I'm not your financial adviser. If you have one you should contact one.
ATG
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One of my dreams is to lease a claim and mine it.

I've looked into it extensively. I believe that with the market being what it is the time is coming for a resurgence in mining.

The fact is, there is more gold in the ground than was ever recovered. Gold has already been devalued once, to the point that it just didn't pay to mine it, and for a while you couldn't even legally own it. Many abandoned claims in the deserts and mountains of California should be explored again.

Many mines that were abandoned yielded 1/4 ounce per ton of rock ( which is about a wheel barrel full ) at the time they were abandoned .

Working one of those claims right now, if you knew what you were doing could yield $800.00 per four wheel barrels full of rock. I can fill a wheel barrel pretty fast and many of the crushers and shaker tables are almost automated.


Go ahead. Laugh.
Phrozenbot
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Definitely. But now gold mining companies can't even keep up with the demand. I think it stays up on the ground for a few days and then its gone and shipped.

Mining in areas where gold has known to be previously found is the way to go.
Marinejuana
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good thread. at a moment like this any hard assets are good, like owning arable land, housing, energy, useful raw materials or mines, etc. investing in precious metals isnt such a bad idea. although the international banks do own the majority of the worlds gold so they have a massive capacity to manipulate and devalue it. if they want a depression and all their glorious repossessions, a run on gold as the dollar goes down isnt going to save us. they could choose to sell the gold as fast as we'll buy it and by the time the run is finished the gold price will be deflated and the same alliances of banks and corporations will sell us our necessities for living for as much gold as they want. real power and therefore money is in infrastructure, and the avg american or european owns none of it.

wouldnt it be nice to invest in some lenses and solar panels that generate enough $ in energy that you didn't even need to work a job??? go ahead. laugh.
Phrozenbot
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MJ, if fiat currencies happen to become worthless, gold and silver will sky rocket.
Kmar
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Sweet, .. Maybe I'll be able to put my daughter through school after all.

My homeowners insurance makes me document all of my assets, including jewelry..
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If a Hurricane rolled up in here I doubt they would give me $2,310 an ounce. .
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KuSTaV
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I sure as hell wouldn't mind a bar of gold

Seriously, gold is probably undervalued due to the fact that it is only used for jewelry, which isn't really a necessity in life.
However I do think that it is pretty rare, and that the mines should be re-opened.
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tthf
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ATG wrote:

One of my dreams is to lease a claim and mine it.

I've looked into it extensively. I believe that with the market being what it is the time is coming for a resurgence in mining.

The fact is, there is more gold in the ground than was ever recovered. Gold has already been devalued once, to the point that it just didn't pay to mine it, and for a while you couldn't even legally own it. Many abandoned claims in the deserts and mountains of California should be explored again.

Many mines that were abandoned yielded 1/4 ounce per ton of rock ( which is about a wheel barrel full ) at the time they were abandoned .

Working one of those claims right now, if you knew what you were doing could yield $800.00 per four wheel barrels full of rock. I can fill a wheel barrel pretty fast and many of the crushers and shaker tables are almost automated.


Go ahead. Laugh.
i'd come work for ya....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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KuSTaV wrote:

I sure as hell wouldn't mind a bar of gold

Seriously, gold is probably undervalued due to the fact that it is only used for jewelry, which isn't really a necessity in life.
However I do think that it is pretty rare, and that the mines should be re-opened.
I hear Flava Flav is the new Bill gates.

For every action force there is an equal, but opposite, reaction force.
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Phrozenbot
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Hmm, that is odd, considering how well gold did during that little panic a while back. It only fell 50 dollars an ounce, about 4% and has since gone up. His loss I guess.
ghettoperson
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Kmarion wrote:

Sweet, .. Maybe I'll be able to put my daughter through school after all.

My homeowners insurance makes me document all of my assets, including jewelry..
http://i30.tinypic.com/dw6kac.jpg
If a Hurricane rolled up in here I doubt they would give me $2,310 an ounce. .
Is that considered enough proof for insurance purposes?!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7030|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Sweet, .. Maybe I'll be able to put my daughter through school after all.

My homeowners insurance makes me document all of my assets, including jewelry..
http://i30.tinypic.com/dw6kac.jpg
If a Hurricane rolled up in here I doubt they would give me $2,310 an ounce. .
Is that considered enough proof for insurance purposes?!
I have to keep digital receipts and photographs for the coverage I have. If I flood paper evidence could be destroyed.
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