BF2S Forums Firefox - What's the big deal?

ThaReaper wrote:

Plus there are so many add-ons. Like adblock and stuff. It detects phishing websites and more.

Take a look at IE7. It has a Phishing filter, too.

Mitch wrote:

Loading times depend on your bandwidth.
you can customize ff to load faster on faster connections.
but overall the biggest thing is its so much safer.
i dont run any protection and i use firefox ONLY, and i dont get viruses.
i once used IE for about 10 minutes and had shit poping up, IE was always running, i would get popups randomly from IE when FF is my default browser, even when i wasnt on the net.
it was aggrivating

Stop going to seedy websites. I use IE7 along with Windows Defender (not that it ever really catches anything, but it's good for real-time protection) and Symantec Anti-Virus (also great for real-time) and I don't get viruses or random pop-ups. Maybe if you kept your Windows OS updated at the same time, you wouldn't get raped by the Internet.

wah1188 wrote:

My internet explorer broke on me, I just used firefox ever since. I just found it hard to switch back to a browser with less functionality.
I can't really explain the whole hype and circle jerk about firefox, my eyes weren't blown away the first time I used it.
There is a lot of cool stuff you can do with it especially the add-ons and various themes.

My advice is just stick with firefox for a few days see if your opinions change. The new internet explorer is pretty good though it now has tab's

The new IE? Dude, IE7 has been out for like two years - before Vista even came out. And how does your browser break? Are you retarded?



I hate Firefox's tabbing. I do open my homepage to get to my email at Gmail or read the newest headlines. OR! TO SEARCH ON GOOGLE! What a thought ... Firefox's entire toolbar takes up too much room on my screen (using a notebook; I miss my PC) compared to IE7. And once again, IE7 looks better with it's tabbing and is much more fluid. My tabs don't open to about:blank, they open to iGoogle.

If the coolest thing about Firefox is that it can change colors, big fucking whoop.

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

If you have the slightest of experience in web development you will know IE as a browser (ie its ability to render pages accurately) is utter shit.

As a web developer I can tell you that over 90% of my users (99% on some apps) are IE users - so I develop with IE and have to tweak to get FF not to, as you say, look 'shit'

Actually since FF2 and IE7 there isn't that much to worry about - develop on either and there are hardly any tweaks to make. So I would say its not the browser but the developer if it looks so 'utter shit' as you say

Peter wrote:

I think your missing that the whole point of firefox being so much better than IE is the fact it is open source. Which means anyone can make addons for it. That means you can customize it to your liking. So if you don't like it, you can make it better.

Being open source isn't what makes it have addons its just a feature....
...and what people always miss is that you can also extend IE with Addons (like I have a developer addon for both)

Peter wrote:

Unlike you I don't like adverts, so I don't see them.

I've always wondered about this one... if it blocks them from even being downloaded to save bandwidth (as it should I hope) then the source webby makes zero money from them.... so in fact its probably all the FF users with adblock that have made chuy add loads more adverts to try to pay for a site.


Basically if you want to: have the addons; change the way it all looks; visit the types of sites with tons of adverts and viruses; visit sites developed more for FF than IE; need a better phishing filter because you cant tell its not really your bank etc???; then FF is the much better choice. If not then FF2 and IE7 are very much a like these days.

FloppY_ wrote:

KylieTastic wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

If you have the slightest of experience in web development you will know IE as a browser (ie its ability to render pages accurately) is utter shit.

As a web developer I can tell you that over 90% of my users (99% on some apps) are IE users - so I develop with IE and have to tweak to get FF not to, as you say, look 'shit'

Actually since FF2 and IE7 there isn't that much to worry about - develop on either and there are hardly any tweaks to make. So I would say its not the browser but the developer if it looks so 'utter shit' as you say

Peter wrote:

I think your missing that the whole point of firefox being so much better than IE is the fact it is open source. Which means anyone can make addons for it. That means you can customize it to your liking. So if you don't like it, you can make it better.

Being open source isn't what makes it have addons its just a feature....
...and what people always miss is that you can also extend IE with Addons (like I have a developer addon for both)

Peter wrote:

Unlike you I don't like adverts, so I don't see them.

I've always wondered about this one... if it blocks them from even being downloaded to save bandwidth (as it should I hope) then the source webby makes zero money from them.... so in fact its probably all the FF users with adblock that have made chuy add loads more adverts to try to pay for a site.


Basically if you want to: have the addons; change the way it all looks; visit the types of sites with tons of adverts and viruses; visit sites developed more for FF than IE; need a better phishing filter because you cant tell its not really your bank etc???; then FF is the much better choice. If not then FF2 and IE7 are very much a like these days.

Firefox = endless possibilities of customization and addons...

IE7 = stock or nothing + RAM-eater

Fixed4u

Canadianloser wrote:

is there a top 10 list or something of the sort for good FF add-ons? I could use some more, it doesn't feel like i'm using FF to its full extent right now

Recommended add-ons

KylieTastic wrote:

visit sites developed more for FF than IE

By visit sites developed for FF....you mean, visit sites developed with 100% correct code? Yeah, thought so.

When you have to specifically include different CSS or use hacks to make stuff work for IE, that's when you know it sucks.


But yeah, Firefox is old. The best browser is Microsoft Firefox, IMO.

http://www.msfirefox.com/


EDIT:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

Are you kidding me? RAM hog? My FF uses almost 8 times more memory then IE6.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2024/lolsp4.png

Sux2bu, my Firefox uses less than 100k with 10 tabs open.

Besides, what does it matter, I have 2GB of RAM just sitting there ...

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-02-04 15:15:25)

nukchebi0 wrote:

The fact that both pictures are using Internet Explorer may be contributing the lack of differentiation you perceive.

I actually lol'd really loudly!

Firefox > All browsers because of its customization. You can get any extensions and any themes you want to do millions of things. Thats why it beats all other browsers.

i thought about trying ff, but, now i think ill stick to IE

Peter wrote:

max wrote:

Skorpy-chan wrote:

That's about it, however. IE was designed by people who knew how to design an interface, and can save tabs when closed. Firefox can't.

Session saver or just use the beta

Tools -> Options -> main -> when firefox starts: Open my windows and tabs from last time?

Version 2.0.0.11

Thanks! I shall use that when bored and engaging in mass wikisurfing.
Maybe I can get more points in BF2 now, as I can get into it without clearing 20-odd tabs...

+1 for being helpful.

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

What's funny is that people keep bringing this up. I renamed the firefox window and set FF to an IE6 theme and arranged icons, just to further prove that people couldn't really tell the difference between FF and IE.

So am i understanding you correctly here, you made you firefox look like your IE to see if people could tell the difference, well firefox passed the test then, because it looks the same as the dull, ugly IE that you use, well done.

Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

KylieTastic wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

If you have the slightest of experience in web development you will know IE as a browser (ie its ability to render pages accurately) is utter shit.

As a web developer I can tell you that over 90% of my users (99% on some apps) are IE users - so I develop with IE and have to tweak to get FF not to, as you say, look 'shit'

Actually since FF2 and IE7 there isn't that much to worry about - develop on either and there are hardly any tweaks to make. So I would say its not the browser but the developer if it looks so 'utter shit' as you say

Peter wrote:

I think your missing that the whole point of firefox being so much better than IE is the fact it is open source. Which means anyone can make addons for it. That means you can customize it to your liking. So if you don't like it, you can make it better.

Being open source isn't what makes it have addons its just a feature....
...and what people always miss is that you can also extend IE with Addons (like I have a developer addon for both)


I've always wondered about this one... if it blocks them from even being downloaded to save bandwidth (as it should I hope) then the source webby makes zero money from them.... so in fact its probably all the FF users with adblock that have made chuy add loads more adverts to try to pay for a site.


Basically if you want to: have the addons; change the way it all looks; visit the types of sites with tons of adverts and viruses; visit sites developed more for FF than IE; need a better phishing filter because you cant tell its not really your bank etc???; then FF is the much better choice. If not then FF2 and IE7 are very much a like these days.

Firefox = endless possibilities of customization and addons...

IE7 = stock or nothing + RAM-eater

Fixed4u

My firefox uses around 80mb of RAM idling with two tabs open. IE with the same options only uses 17...

Firefox eats more ram :\

If IE is your main browser I suggest you pull your ethernet out, and cancel your internet.

Skorpy-chan wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Firefox = endless possibilities of customization and addons...

IE7 = stock or nothing

That's just not true.  I use IE7, and I have an adblocker, an FF-like download manager, spell checker, mouse gestures, etc...  There are also userscripts that can be implemented (greasemonkey-esque) and loads of other features.

And to whoever said that FF doesn't use a lot of RAM, what was that about all the memory leaks in FF2?

You don't get memory leaks if you don't paste crap to it. And without all the addons and bloat, you use less memory than IE.

Also, it's less happy to dump my login cookies at a moment's notice. You can clear the history with only a few clicks, as opposed to going through the options menu of IE. It lacks some of the features of IE, like the remindy thing for multiple tabs, new tabs opening to google, and my handy-dandy toolbar of googleness, but it doesen't break after a certain amount of use.

You can get google toolbar for FF,

You can decide what page you want a new tab to be,

remindy thing for multible tabs? (Tab memory between sessions?) gee, you know what, FF got that too...'

Sgt.Gene wrote:

If IE is your main browser I suggest you pull your ethernet out, and cancel your internet.

QFMFT

gene_pool wrote:

Firefox eats more ram :\

Sounds like there is something wrong with your PC or your firefox install,,,


For the record, my firefox uses 58 mb ram with two tabs and I have TONS of addons, some of which, are ram hoggers....
IE7 uses 50 mb ram also with two tabs, and don't compare Firefox to IE6, because I'd bet that I could find a browser for windows 3.1 that uses less ram than IE, don't compare with old software plx...

Last edited by FloppY_ (2008-02-04 23:14:24)