In a case like this, correlation != causation. It goes for both sides of that argument. Who cares if 99.9% of heroin addicts started on mother's milk. That correlation says nothing about causation. What does it matter that whatever percentage of people who do harder drugs started with marijuana. That doesn't mean that marijuana was the cause of doing harder drugs.ig wrote:
konfusion wrote:
oh, and yeah, weed is a huge step-in drug. It's not like most people who do weed will go on and do other drugs, but most people who do other drugs did weed before that.
-konfusioni could also blame cigarettes. i'm sure more than 75% of people who have smoked weed smoked a cigarette before they ever smoked weed.Marinejuana wrote:
ya and 99.9 percent of heroin addicts start out on their mothers milk.
You're passing judgement on it, but you don't even know what the drug dealers are CAUSING over here. I have lost two bikes in the last three years to asshole drug addicts stealing them to pawn for drug money.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
Sorry, but how can you know that "drug addicts" stole your bike?Skorpy-chan wrote:
You're passing judgement on it, but you don't even know what the drug dealers are CAUSING over here. I have lost two bikes in the last three years to asshole drug addicts stealing them to pawn for drug money.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
And no, I doubt "underground" marijuana dealing would be made legal. Sale would be an above-board industry, sellers would need a license to sell just as with alcohol and of course there would be sale restrictions concerning age.
Yeah, legalising it is a much better way to stop the dodgy dealers and drug lords and the crimes associated with them, imo.
Plus, you'd be able to tax it.
Plus, you could grow it nicely in huge places in the UK. And not buy it off Terry Taliban from Afghanistan, so you're not funding terrorism either!
Plus, you'd be able to tax it.
Plus, you could grow it nicely in huge places in the UK. And not buy it off Terry Taliban from Afghanistan, so you're not funding terrorism either!
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You know why weed is a "step on drug"? Because it's the fucking safest one to try if you're curious. If you go on to Coke or Heroin you probably would of if Weed didn't exist.
It's like saying.- Oh I tried alcohol and like it, then I tried Weed, then I tried Shrooms, Then pills, then crack. I blame alcohol, make it illegal.-
Bullshit excuse, if weed wasn't so expensive I'd still do it. And I'm a sensible Sam.
It's like saying.- Oh I tried alcohol and like it, then I tried Weed, then I tried Shrooms, Then pills, then crack. I blame alcohol, make it illegal.-
Bullshit excuse, if weed wasn't so expensive I'd still do it. And I'm a sensible Sam.
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
watMagpie wrote:
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
EDIT: Oh, right I understand you now. It's not as dangerous as the government and media make out. Check the link I posted earlier.
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You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...Magpie wrote:
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...Magpie wrote:
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Please, don't make these wild comparisons. Get the facts before you form your opinions dude.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...Magpie wrote:
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
£300 isn't expensive for a bikeSkorpy-chan wrote:
You're passing judgement on it, but you don't even know what the drug dealers are CAUSING over here. I have lost two bikes in the last three years to asshole drug addicts stealing them to pawn for drug money.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
I spent £1400 on my old downhill bike!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
what facts was it that i got wrong?Ollie wrote:
Please, don't make these wild comparisons. Get the facts before you form your opinions dude.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Pah, that's peanuts, I've spent over 2.5k on mine. Fucking money pits, I'll take a decent drug habit over my hobbies any day.FatherTed wrote:
£300 isn't expensive for a bikeSkorpy-chan wrote:
You're passing judgement on it, but you don't even know what the drug dealers are CAUSING over here. I have lost two bikes in the last three years to asshole drug addicts stealing them to pawn for drug money.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
I spent £1400 on my old downhill bike!
Well, you seem to think marijuana is as dangerous as crack cocaine.Magpie wrote:
what facts was it that i got wrong?Ollie wrote:
Please, don't make these wild comparisons. Get the facts before you form your opinions dude.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
You want marijuana legalised for medicinal purposes, which seems to imply that you think its benefits outweigh its detrimental effects.
I just see a blatant contradiction in your argument.
Yah, i found i had so much more money when i got bored of downhilling!ghettoperson wrote:
Pah, that's peanuts, I've spent over 2.5k on mine. Fucking money pits, I'll take a decent drug habit over my hobbies any day.FatherTed wrote:
£300 isn't expensive for a bikeSkorpy-chan wrote:
You're passing judgement on it, but you don't even know what the drug dealers are CAUSING over here. I have lost two bikes in the last three years to asshole drug addicts stealing them to pawn for drug money.
Expensive, £300-odd bikes. Crime goes up if you legalise drug dealing.
I spent £1400 on my old downhill bike!
It was like every other week something would break, and it's always expensive to replace
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...Magpie wrote:
I dont want to work with anyone that does pot to dangerous and i do like being alive
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Guts, lolmaroffle.
My initial thoughts but I didn't want to be quite so blunt. Kudos anyway.jord wrote:
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Guts, lolmaroffle.
medicinal purposes yes, If it can help Cancer, aids MS patiens when other "modern" medication fails then why not. If nothing else helps then yes, BUT not as a drug for every idiot and his dog to use..Ollie wrote:
Well, you seem to think marijuana is as dangerous as crack cocaine.Magpie wrote:
what facts was it that i got wrong?Ollie wrote:
Please, don't make these wild comparisons. Get the facts before you form your opinions dude.
You want marijuana legalised for medicinal purposes, which seems to imply that you think its benefits outweigh its detrimental effects.
I just see a blatant contradiction in your argument.
and my crack comment was sarcastic....
Why not?Magpie wrote:
BUT not as a drug for every idiot and his dog to use..
I have been offered a shitload of times and everytime i have always declined. Me saying no to drugs is mostly due to when i was growing up the area was infested with drunks thiefs and druggies. And seeing shit like that all the time does make one think... This is my opinion about weed so dont go and get all upset nowjord wrote:
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?jord wrote:
You'd enjoy life a whole lot more if you had some pot...
Go on, get some. Go for it.
What you still doing here? Go get some.
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Guts, lolmaroffle.
not me fine sirig wrote:
konfusion wrote:
oh, and yeah, weed is a huge step-in drug. It's not like most people who do weed will go on and do other drugs, but most people who do other drugs did weed before that.
-konfusioni could also blame cigarettes. i'm sure more than 75% of people who have smoked weed smoked a cigarette before they ever smoked weed.Marinejuana wrote:
ya and 99.9 percent of heroin addicts start out on their mothers milk.
Marihuana and heroin are both drugs. Milk is not. If anyone is failing at logic, surely it's you, in trying to downplay the significance of the effect that the use of one drug has on the use of another drug by referring to a common denominator that is completely irrelevant to substance abuse.Marinejuana wrote:
ya and 99.9 percent of heroin addicts start out on their mothers milk. way to fail at logic, i thought 'gateway drug' theory died in the 80s.Varegg wrote:
Weed is often the first step to other drugs later on ...
It takes a special kind of ignorance to believe that desensitisation towards substance abuse doesn't bring about a significant potential to delve deeper into its facets. Many of us have seen it first hand. Most people here are up for sane discussions, but not if you stick your fingers in your ears and ignore what has been proven time and time again.
A slight hint of aggression in my tone doesn't mean I'm upset. Though your extremely biased option is pretty poor, I smoked it and my financial situation or attitude didn't change. I turned down normal smokes when I was younger because I didn't want to do it, I wanted to try weed.Magpie wrote:
I have been offered a shitload of times and everytime i have always declined. Me saying no to drugs is mostly due to when i was growing up the area was infested with drunks thiefs and druggies. And seeing shit like that all the time does make one think... This is my opinion about weed so dont go and get all upset nowjord wrote:
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Guts, lolmaroffle.
Can you answer my question as to why everyone shouldn't be allowed to smoke marijuana?Magpie wrote:
I have been offered a shitload of times and everytime i have always declined. Me saying no to drugs is mostly due to when i was growing up the area was infested with drunks thiefs and druggies. And seeing shit like that all the time does make one think... This is my opinion about weed so dont go and get all upset nowjord wrote:
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.Magpie wrote:
No...I have had the gutts to say no to drugs, what will be next legalize crack?
Sure weed should be legal for medical purposes but thats about it...
Guts, lolmaroffle.
I think what Marinejuana was doing was employing a bit of hyperbole. He was trying to prove a point.mikkel wrote:
Marihuana and heroin are both drugs. Milk is not. If anyone is failing at logic, surely it's you, in trying to downplay the significance of the effect that the use of one drug has on the use of another drug by referring to a common denominator that is completely irrelevant to substance abuse.Marinejuana wrote:
ya and 99.9 percent of heroin addicts start out on their mothers milk. way to fail at logic, i thought 'gateway drug' theory died in the 80s.Varegg wrote:
Weed is often the first step to other drugs later on ...
It takes a special kind of ignorance to believe that desensitisation towards substance abuse doesn't bring about a significant potential to delve deeper into its facets. Many of us have seen it first hand. Most people here are up for sane discussions, but not if you stick your fingers in your ears and ignore what has been proven time and time again.
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Its my opinion you dont need to like itjord wrote:
A slight hint of aggression in my tone doesn't mean I'm upset. Though your extremely biased option is pretty poor, I smoked it and my financial situation or attitude didn't change. I turned down normal smokes when I was younger because I didn't want to do it, I wanted to try weed.Magpie wrote:
I have been offered a shitload of times and everytime i have always declined. Me saying no to drugs is mostly due to when i was growing up the area was infested with drunks thiefs and druggies. And seeing shit like that all the time does make one think... This is my opinion about weed so dont go and get all upset nowjord wrote:
What the hell does that make me, a Pussy? Don't talk shit mate, you don't have guts to say no to it. The opportunity just hasn't risen for you yet. I wanted to try it out for myself and I did, I wasn't forced into it.
Guts, lolmaroffle.