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konfusion wrote:

I'd probably deserve a piracy/anti-social tax. I spend most of my time on my computer. However, I guess I'm too much of a puritan to be able to fairly discuss this. I don't believe in use of drugs, junk food, or anything else like that. However, I don't really exercise either, but I make up for it by not eating excessively...
I'd be pissed if there was some random tax imposed on me, but if it's any of those I mentioned, I would understand.

-konfusion

It's easy to support a tax that won't affect you.  That's how these sin taxes get through (well, that and the government knows that people won't stop drinking and smoking, so it's a cash cow).

But these anti-fat threads are usually just someone who doesn't like looking at or interacting with overweight folk trying to justify their irrational opinion.  That kind of shit irritates me.  I don't like ignorant people, but I don't go around proposing a stupid tax.  Because, you know, ignorance is a choice.

Last edited by SenorToenails (2008-02-06 04:59:04)

konfusion wrote:

Ignorance is less of a choice than being fat is. If someone doesn't go to school their whole lives, because they preferred to just hang out with friends, or simply thought they were too cool for it, then I have this tendency not to respect them as much as someone who dedicated his life to his studies.
We don't have a stupid tax. Instead, we make it a legal issue that you go to school. You are obligated to do so. Are you implying, then, that instead of taxes, we should send fat people to nutrition education or fat camp?

-konfusion

Woah there haus.  I like how you took what I said and completely twisted it into something else.

How many people come out of school, even though it is required, woefully ignorant?  I am not proposing a stupid tax.  But having one is just as unreasonable as having a fat tax or whatever.  But I do contend that ignorance is just as voluntary as obesity.  In fact, since kids are forced to go to school, how is it somehow more acceptable for people to be ignorant?

SenorToenails wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Right. Because you're going to be perfectly healthy if you stick with certain foods that adhere to FDA and Health Department standards, even if doctors and nutrition specialists are telling you to stop eating it or you're going to die of a damned heart attack. While I agree that we need less government regulation, obesity does affect us skinny people so long as we're all paying taxes into public health care.

Ok.  I pay taxes too.  Does that give me some god-given right to interfere with any publicly funded program?  No.  Besides, most people pay for their own insurance, so what does it have to do with you?

Who said anything about interfering? Protesting, on the other hand...

fucking let em eat, natural selection will do its part

on the contrary

i just remembered whos going to be paying the med. bills or higher insurance


fuck!

Last edited by Locoloki (2008-02-06 09:04:13)

From the responses, I guess that most people here fall into the "overweight" category anyway.

Fat people damage our economy. Fact. In England we have a free health service that's struggling to survive because people choose to be fat, no there's no bloody gene that makes you fat, here's an analogy: ever see a fat monkey in the wild, even where food is virtually unlimited? Didn't think so.

Fat people directly affect healthcare by overstretching the spending and thus affecting those of us who need it for legitimate reasons, like me with a chronic disease I had a few years ago. If I didn't get the treatment god knows what would have happened. I didn't choose to be ill, but fat people choose to be fat and as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't care if they put a 500% tax on their food and taxed the hell out of them from their income just for being overweight. Maybe then they would learn to not eat so damn much and exercise like a real human being. The money could go to repairing a damaged healthcare system by people who choose to be ill by not using a little simple self control.

rh27 wrote:

From the responses, I guess that most people here fall into the "overweight" category anyway.

Fat people damage our economy. Fact. In England we have a free health service that's struggling to survive because people choose to be fat, no there's no bloody gene that makes you fat, here's an analogy: ever see a fat monkey in the wild, even where food is virtually unlimited? Didn't think so.

Fat people directly affect healthcare by overstretching the spending and thus affecting those of us who need it for legitimate reasons, like me with a chronic disease I had a few years ago. If I didn't get the treatment god knows what would have happened. I didn't choose to be ill, but fat people choose to be fat and as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't care if they put a 500% tax on their food and taxed the hell out of them from their income just for being overweight. Maybe then they would learn to not eat so damn much and exercise like a real human being. The money could go to repairing a damaged healthcare system by people who choose to be ill by not using a little simple self control.

What?  How can you draw any such conclusion?  No one said anything about fat people not choosing to be fat.  The problem is that the tax would be unjust.  Unfair taxes are just that -- unfair.  A fat tax is an unfair tax.  Of course, it's completely acceptable to impose it if you aren't going to pay, right?  Besides, in America, we each pay for our own healthcare.  If you British-folk want to tax fat people--go right ahead.  But I will oppose any such idea here in the States.