_raab
Member
+28|6711|Western Aust.
The South African Rooivalk.
https://www.af.mil.za/fpage_pics/04072006.JPG

The Hind of course.
https://www.isra.org/drawing_a_bead/mi24-hind-helicopter.jpg

Then the MH-53J/Mi-26 halo and the chinook.

Last edited by _raab (2008-02-06 18:36:12)

icecold2510
Member
+31|6771
My favorite helicopter

HurricaИe wrote:

Don't forget the MH-53J Pave Low III
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/MH-53J_Pave_Low_III.jpg/490px-MH-53J_Pave_Low_III.jpg
Blackhawk gets second then the Cobra.

Last edited by icecold2510 (2008-02-06 18:50:49)

nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6801|New Haven, CT
Comanche.
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7073|Michigan, USA
Huey Gunship by far
https://vietnamresearch.com/air/helo/us_helo15.jpg



And if i could find a good picture of the Mi-8 Rape machine, or rather the MI-e with the quad rocketpods I post that ass well.  So many terrible nightmares from Battlefield Vietnam, and to think you babies cry about chopper camping now...
Longbow
Member
+163|7123|Odessa, Ukraine

r2zoo wrote:

And if i could find a good picture of the Mi-8 Rape machine, or rather the MI-e with the quad rocketpods I post that ass well.
Mi-8 can have up to six either C-5 (total of 192 missiles) or C-8 rocket pods (total of 120 missiles)
TSI
Cholera in the time of love
+247|6458|Toronto
Rooivalk
Tiger HAD
Mi-25/35 Hind
Ka-50 Hokum
Sea King (jk )
Comanche
I like pie.
NantanCochise
Member
+55|6455|Portugal/United States
https://i26.tinypic.com/sxhh12.jpg
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7183
XH-17 Sky Crane- It has such a huge bladespan that it takes about 1.5 seconds to make a full revolution.  Watch 2nd half of this video
https://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/helicopters/size/xh17_01.jpg
https://www.aviastar.org/foto/mcdonnel_crane_1.jpg
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/exper … o/93390615
NantanCochise
Member
+55|6455|Portugal/United States
...my top 10 list.

1. AH-64 Apache
2. MH-60 Pave Hawk
3. MD 500
4. UH-1 Huey
5. Bell 207 Jet Ranger
6. EC 155 Dauphin
7. CH-47 Chinook
8. MH-53 Pave Low
9. EH 101
10. Mil Mi 24 Hind

Last edited by NantanCochise (2008-02-06 19:33:44)

Skorpy-chan
Member
+127|6822|Twyford, UK
The ignorance is astounding!

- Bombs on choppers is nothing new, nor is it exclusive to the Hind. It's an old concept, but seldom used because you have to hover over the target. That you're bombing. That's probably shooting back.

- The Ka-52 isn't the new version of the Ka-50. The -52 is simply the two-seat version for export customers unsure about russian automation tech. It's slow and clunky compared to the original.
-- The new version is the Ka-50-2, a joint project between russia (airframes) and israel (avionics, badass 30mm cannon turret) for turkey. The turks rejected it due to anti-soviet and anti-semitic concerns and took the cobra instead, leaving Israel with a bunch of unsold choppers.

- The V-22 isn't a chopper. It's a 'compound aircraft', a term made up by the FAA specially for it. It also falls out the sky if you descend too quickly, as the air stops passing through the rotors. The issue held up the aircraft for years, and was eventually solved by telling pilots not to do it and installing a warning.

- In terms of chopper-vs-chopper combat, the Hind is slightly ahead, but most of the evidence from iran and india and pakistan and iraq seems to be that whoever gets the drop with the TOW missile equivalent wins.


Other amusing notes:
- The ROFLcopter is actually in arizona in that shot of the Hind.
NantanCochise
Member
+55|6455|Portugal/United States

Skorpy-chan wrote:

The ignorance is astounding!

- Bombs on choppers is nothing new, nor is it exclusive to the Hind. It's an old concept, but seldom used because you have to hover over the target. That you're bombing. That's probably shooting back.

- The Ka-52 isn't the new version of the Ka-50. The -52 is simply the two-seat version for export customers unsure about russian automation tech. It's slow and clunky compared to the original.
-- The new version is the Ka-50-2, a joint project between russia (airframes) and israel (avionics, badass 30mm cannon turret) for turkey. The turks rejected it due to anti-soviet and anti-semitic concerns and took the cobra instead, leaving Israel with a bunch of unsold choppers.

- The V-22 isn't a chopper. It's a 'compound aircraft', a term made up by the FAA specially for it. It also falls out the sky if you descend too quickly, as the air stops passing through the rotors. The issue held up the aircraft for years, and was eventually solved by telling pilots not to do it and installing a warning.

- In terms of chopper-vs-chopper combat, the Hind is slightly ahead, but most of the evidence from iran and india and pakistan and iraq seems to be that whoever gets the drop with the TOW missile equivalent wins.


Other amusing notes:
- The ROFLcopter is actually in arizona in that shot of the Hind.
Actually the Turks are now cancelling future cobra orders due to growing anti-american sentiment, they are moving towards the August Mangusta.
You are right about the V-22 but it still is a rotorcraft aircraft, a group which helicopters fall under.
...and as for chopper vs chopper combat do you mean air to air combat. For that id probably go for an Apache armed with stingers.
_NL_Lt.EngineerFox
Big Mouth Prick
+219|7007|Golf 1.8 GTI Wolfsburg Edition
UH1D from the 101
https://i28.tinypic.com/oa502g.jpg
https://i31.tinypic.com/295xu75.jpg
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|7073|Michigan, USA

Longbow wrote:

r2zoo wrote:

And if i could find a good picture of the Mi-8 Rape machine, or rather the MI-e with the quad rocketpods I post that ass well.
Mi-8 can have up to six either C-5 (total of 192 missiles) or C-8 rocket pods (total of 120 missiles)
Could have looked it up in my big ole book of military aircraft, but meh.  I was just goingof the configuration from Battlefield Vietnam.  As much as I hated it, I respected it, hellstorm of missles is produced was crazy.  Looking at its variations, it was one of the best multirole helicopters of its time.
theit57
I am THE Frodo Baggins.
+124|6876|6 feet under
https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/sh-3h-dvic322.jpg
geNius
..!.,
+144|6919|SoCal
https://srejects.com/genius/srejects.png
Hakei
Banned
+295|6472
https://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/images/z8a_02large.jpg

Bumblebee imho.
venom6
Since day One.
+247|7035|Hungary
Just something related to this.

Oscar Asbóth - (1881 - 1960)
Engineer: Student of Theodore Kármán and Helicopter Pioneer. 

In the first decades of modern aviation history, airplane designers seeking for new flying techniques probed many different solutions; along with the rigid-wing "dra-gon" or the orni-thopter, they also experimented with propellers rotating around a vertical shaft. During World War I, Lieutenant-colonel István Petróczy, professor Tódor Kármán and Vilmos Zurovetz jointly made hovering experiments with a windmill plane. At some of these Oszkár Asbóth then only 27 years old, also participated.

He finished his studies at Arad, Transylvania (today Oradea in Romania) and became a member of a motor sport club as a teenager. He was only 18 when he built his first glider pulled up into the air by a motorcycle. Soon he designed an engine-driven plane and a stabilizer which was among the prize-winners at a competition organized by the Austro-Hungarian Defense Ministry.  After the outbreak of World War I, he did military service at an aircraft factory near Vienna where he was in charge of propeller manufacturing. Asbóth constructed and tested some 1500 propellers in the wind channel of the factory.  Ten years later Asbóth built his first helicopter. Powered by a 120 HP nine-cylinder engine and propelled by two wooden propellers, each 4.35 meter in diameter, placed parallel above each other and rotating in opposite direction, the model "AH 1" took off vertically on September 9, 1928. Tires were replaced by four footballs to provide sufficient flexibility for landing. For its maiden flight, after 1100 rotations the plane swiftly took off, at ten meters stopped, hovered for some ten minutes, than smoothly descended. 

A director of the research department of the British Air Ministry R. N. Liptrot, who also traveled on the helicopter, wrote in the British Journal of the Aeronautical Society in 1931:

                "the Asboth-helicopter ascends vertically with a remarkable speed...to any height where it can hover stationary for some time. It can be perfectly navigated. But the most remarkable is that, unlike other tested helicopters, this one remains absolutely stable around all axes..." 

Asbóth's merits were much more recognized in foreign countries than in his homeland. In 1954, on the 25th anniversary of the maiden flight of his first helicopter, the Fédération Aeronautique Internationale (Paris) awarded Oszkár Asbóth with the Paul Tissandier diploma for his lifetime achievements in aeronautics.
Longbow
Member
+163|7123|Odessa, Ukraine
Igor Sikorsky was first.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6700|Escea

Don't forget the MH-53 turns into one of these

https://static.jonathanchong.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/blackout.png

Apache is win tbh though, I also like Blackhawks and Little Birds.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7032
https://timstvshowcase.com/airwolf0.jpg
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6763|eng
https://www.enemyforces.com/helicopters/mi28_2.jpg

How have none of you said the Mi-28 Havoc? How?
#rekt
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|6408|Somewhere out in Space

mint-sauce-41 wrote:

http://www.enemyforces.com/helicopters/mi28_2.jpg

How have none of you said the Mi-28 Havoc? How?
I can raep TV stations IRL too?
Longbow
Member
+163|7123|Odessa, Ukraine

mint-sauce-41 wrote:

How have none of you said the Mi-28 Havoc? How?
I don't like 28's visual appearance
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6763|eng

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

mint-sauce-41 wrote:

http://www.enemyforces.com/helicopters/mi28_2.jpg

How have none of you said the Mi-28 Havoc? How?
I can raep TV stations IRL too?
Get fucked.
#rekt
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7168|Devon, England

Longbow wrote:

mint-sauce-41 wrote:

How have none of you said the Mi-28 Havoc? How?
I don't like 28's visual appearance
It looks fucking bad-ass.

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