BF2S Forums Cost Saving .vs. Cry Babies

Last edited by Spark (2008-02-09 23:27:20)

Spark wrote:

How could you 'save costs' by eliminating that?

Last edited by usmarine (2008-02-09 23:35:29)

Spark wrote:

Ah, now I get it.

Why the fuck don't they just grow up and bring their own water...

Spark wrote:

Where are you in the industry btw? Groundstaff, maintenance, or in-the-air?

Last edited by usmarine (2008-02-09 23:50:31)

mikkel wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Spark wrote:

How could you 'save costs' by eliminating that?

Assume 40 cents per bottle.  Now factor 4 bottles per flight.  Factor that by 50 flights per day.  Then multiply that by 365 days.

Are we talking a shitload of money in the millions?  No.  But savings is what matters.

40 cents per bottle is way overestimated when these are bought in massive bulk. Bottled water probably has the highest mark-up of anything sold in a convenience store. I'd sooner estimate 4 cents per bottle.

To be honest, while I realise that the pilots earn more than enough to buy their own water, I also see why they'd complain about having to work in an environment where they sit for potentially many, many hours straight with no access to any water other than what they bring themselves. If I had to fly an aircraft and be in charge of the safety of hundreds of lives for many hours, I'd find it somewhat petty if the airline couldn't even afford me access to something as basic as a bottle of water.

mikkel wrote:

40 cents per bottle is way overestimated when these are bought in massive bulk. Bottled water probably has the highest mark-up of anything sold in a convenience store. I'd sooner estimate 4 cents per bottle.

Last edited by usmarine (2008-02-10 11:33:36)

usmarine wrote:

I know most of you are not in the aviation industry.  But for years and years pilots grabbed whatever they wanted out of the galley and stuck it up against the left or right rear flight deck window.   It is an amazing natural refrigerator.  One airline for the sake of cost saving decided to put an end to that practice.

Essentially, if you want bottled water, buy and bring your own.  Simple concept for most of us of course.   But, apparently all the old airline pilots have a problem with this.  They start bitching about dehydration.  The that some are fighting for free water is disturbing.

So I have to ask:

Am I the only one who thinks that "Bring your own fucking water" is too much to ask?

sergeriver wrote:

You forget that pilots are very underpaid people /sarcasm.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-02-11 10:43:32)

usmarine wrote:

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

An employer has the obligation to provide in some way for a worker's basic needs.  Access to water and restroom facilities being one of them.  If the airline wants, they can issue canteens or little cooler jugs to the pilots and require them to fill up before boarding each flight, just add an item to the pre-flight checklist ("Pilot canteen coolers are topped off with water").  Its not a black and white solution (bottled water or no water), both sides can give a little.

We did that.  We gave them nice little water bottles.  Now they are bitching about bacteria in the water bottles.....with no proof of course.  They apparently do not like that solution.  So, we provided them with the option.

Dauntless wrote:

I don't think it's that big of a deal one way or the other.

The pilots have put a lot of their own money and time into the airline, a bottle of water per flight doesn't seem much to ask. I know they have a salary, but why argue over something like this? let them have it.