Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7124|Tampa Bay Florida
In regards to the new AA updated in the patch,

Why were so many infantry players complaining about being jet-whored?  Why for the love of god did they go into a Wake Island server looking for infantry combat?  Why?  When I'm in the mood for infantry I usually go to Sharqi/Mashtuur/Karkand servers, you know, the city maps.

I know it wasn't fair to troops on the ground who WERE getting jet-whored, but why make the AA so freakin good?  It's a video game, you shouldn't have to be THE BEST OF THE BEST of pilots if you have fun flying an F-36b. 

Just wondering why EA ruined BF2.  Look, if you want infantry go play Call Of Duty 2 or Counter Strike (duh)

I think the reason why BF2 is so cool is because it COMBINES Air power and infantry.  By limiting the game, you limit the fun.  That is why CoD2 (IMO) is boring.  ALL it is is infantry.  Balance, people

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-02-15 15:13:01)

Tearsofromance
Member
+0|7121|Canada
Go cry
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7124|Tampa Bay Florida
You've never played Call of Duty or Counter Strike have you?  you would know what I am talking about.  Either that or you have no taste
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7181|The United Center

Tearsofromance wrote:

Go cry
ironic that someone with the word 'tears' in his name tells someone to go cry, dont you think?  go cut yourself, emo boy.

i agree.  if you go into a map with jets, you should expect to be bombed.  jets are supposed to be superior to ground forces and helicopters.  granted, the AA before the patch was absolutely horrendous, but now, from what ive heard, its almost impossible to shake an AA missile once its locked onto you.  the AA definitely needed to be improved, but it seems as though its 100% accurate now.

it seems as though the balance is now infantry>jets>choppers>armor>infantry

Last edited by ThomasMorgan (2006-02-15 15:18:41)

n00b.Worx
Member
+44|7160|West Berlin!

Spearhead wrote:

In regards to the new AA updated in the patch,

Why were so many infantry players complaining about being jet-whored?  Why for the love of god did they go into a Wake Island server looking for infantry combat?  Why?  When I'm in the mood for infantry I usually go to Sharqi/Mashtuur/Karkand servers, you know, the city maps.

I know it wasn't fair to troops on the ground who WERE getting jet-whored, but why make the AA so freakin good?  It's a video game, you shouldn't have to be THE BEST OF THE BEST of pilots if you have fun flying an F-36b. 

Just wondering why EA ruined BF2.  Look, if you want infantry go play Call Of Duty 2 or Counter Strike (duh)

I think the reason why BF2 is so cool is because it COMBINES Air power and infantry.  By limiting the game, you limit the fun.  That is why CoD2 (IMO) is boring.  ALL it is is infantry.  Balance, people
Amen right here!"
Lestat<CoN>
Didnt Do it
+9|7138
All it means is you jet pilots will have to learn new tricks thats all its still very possible to kill a AA emplacement b4 it kills you but you just need skill (i should know i died in one just as much as always last night)
Mike_J
Member
+68|7103
I agree to some extent.  I wouldn't mind the new aa as much if the flares would actually work.  I've somewhat figured out how to dodge aa sometimes with a combination of sharp turns and flares.  Flares alone don't cut it though anymore.  The point of a jets and helos is to have an advantage over an infantry grunt.  Sure now pilots are going to have to learn to fly cautuiously and memorize aa points on maps but I think they went too far with aa effectiveness and how jets/helos work (especially helos).  Well, I'm not exactly sure actually.  I love it and I hate it.  lol gues it just depends on if I'm at the receiving end of an IGLA or not.
terrafirma
Press 1 to Kill
+81|7088|Westminster, Colorado
I realized when I started playing that I was destined to be a ground pounder.  Realizing this I play mostly infantry maps.  That is why I love SF so much because it is mostly about infantry.  I had no problems with the superior pilots.
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|7131|Germany

Spearhead wrote:

In regards to the new AA updated in the patch,

Why were so many infantry players complaining about being jet-whored?  Why for the love of god did they go into a Wake Island server looking for infantry combat?  Why?  When I'm in the mood for infantry I usually go to Sharqi/Mashtuur/Karkand servers, you know, the city maps.

I know it wasn't fair to troops on the ground who WERE getting jet-whored, but why make the AA so freakin good?  It's a video game, you shouldn't have to be THE BEST OF THE BEST of pilots if you have fun flying an F-36b. 

Just wondering why EA ruined BF2.  Look, if you want infantry go play Call Of Duty 2 or Counter Strike (duh)

I think the reason why BF2 is so cool is because it COMBINES Air power and infantry.  By limiting the game, you limit the fun.  That is why CoD2 (IMO) is boring.  ALL it is is infantry.  Balance, people
Cry-baby,just shut up!

I got my Aerial Service Ribbon today on Clean Sweep,I'm not a jetwhore(only about 7 hours in a jet with 300+ hours down) although I used to fly a lot in BF1942.Since the new AA people love to shoot down jets so every IGLA on this map was manned and yet it was no problem to get some decent kills.

The AA is absolutely manageable,if you get shot down all the time from AA you just plain suck and have no idea about the right approaches for bombing runs.
And dogfighting is now how it should have been right from the start,if somebody gets to your six you're done.

Adapt or die!Or go back to CS!

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-02-15 16:23:57)

Stags
Member
+26|7090
AA isn't impossibe to dodge, granted it's a lot harder now.  I've seen way too many pilots just turn, that won't work.  Look the AA uses ram steering (sp) in other words once it turns one way going the other way with the jet it usually won't get you... although I haven't tested this much it should work.  Also I was in the helo and found it was easy enough just to blow up the AA and I wasn't bothered because they guy went on to some other things.

Don't cry just learn new tactics, when I'm an infantry man and i get blown up, meh.  When the plane is flying straight and level and the SAMs miss I'm like BS!!!! now if you fly straight and level well Darwin wins.   Overall you'll eventually learn the tricks and you'll start racking up the kills again.  Don't complain until you've at least given a good effort into the matter.
Badvock
Squishing Your Head
+1|7111|Bolton UK

Spearhead wrote:

Just wondering why EA ruined BF2.  Look, if you want infantry go play Call Of Duty 2 or Counter Strike (duh)

I think the reason why BF2 is so cool is because it COMBINES Air power and infantry.  By limiting the game, you limit the fun.  That is why CoD2 (IMO) is boring.  ALL it is is infantry.  Balance, people
Umm that whole bit is a contradiction in terms dufus, u cant whine about AA being too good and infantry players should go elsewhere then say the game is good because it combines the two elements. Formulate a good argument in future.
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|7113|Denver, CO
ok granted the AA is now a complete pain in the ass.  Here's a slightly modified evasion technique for the new AA and A2A missiles.

Once you get locked on do the following ASAP:
1.  Release flares.
2.  Dive in into them right as you release them using your thrust.  (this places the flares directly behind you and does catch the missiles)
3a. If terrain permits hide from the lock, get away a safe distance, comeback and kill the bastard.
3b. If nowhere to hide dive until 60% thrust left or ground is very close, then suddenly pull up vertically still using your thrust and get above 1000 ft. 
4.  Either get the hell away from there or swing right back down and waste him.  or both

this works

do NOT pull away once you release the flares... this only wastes them now as it puts even more space between you and your safety

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