SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6592|Birmingham, UK

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Glory dickhead? I'm proud to say that my allegiance to a team started when I chose a United bed spread from the Argos catalogue when I was six for Christmas. To be honest it could only have been United, Newcastle, Everton or Liverpool, but I'm glad I chose who I did.
Are you sure, i think the manager of Oldham was very upset after you shot him down at your doorstep.













He only wanted some tea too.
jord
Member
+2,382|7163|The North, beyond the wall.

buLLet_t00th wrote:

To be honest it could only have been United, Newcastle, Everton or Liverpool, but I'm glad I chose who I did.
You'd probably be saying the exact same thing if you chose any of the others...
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6927|Stealth City, UK

SamTheMan:D wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

lol
I know its hard to take.....but its true.

Edit: I'm guessing you're an Arsenal fan, I suppose you have a small argument to that, but not one that will stand up to anything.
Arsenal?

Hell no
Ooohhhhhh.........you support that group of men some people call a team and which United beat 6-0.

How unfortunate for you.

jord wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

To be honest it could only have been United, Newcastle, Everton or Liverpool, but I'm glad I chose who I did.
You'd probably be saying the exact same thing if you chose any of the others...
Don't think so, United have won the league 9 times, the treble, numerous crappy cups and are the team to beat this season. I'd be worse off with any other team.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2008-02-08 09:35:38)

bullit
Tank Troll
+71|7174|London, UK
Can't believe their doing this, not only with the massive amount of matches they gotta play but now they have to travel halfway across the world to play! If capello has a say I think he will say no to this cause his players will get injured/fatigued more when it comes to tourneys....

Last edited by bullit (2008-02-08 09:57:06)

1927(h)
Guest

Bf2-GeneralArnott wrote:

1927 wrote:

0akleaves wrote:

erm fuck off k, newcastle sunderland is more highly regarded than spurs v arsenal  or utd v citys so go fuck ur sel on that one, and also these 2 clubs got votd 1st and 2nd for the best supporters so its always widely watched.
You think people outside of North East England are interested in Newcastle v Sunderland.

I'm sorry to dissapoint you, they arn't.

For eg, Newcastle big club? I think so.  Everyones stopped talking about KK already.  Ask the Asians who is the manager of Sunderland? They arn't going to know I', afraid.
Lol, 1927, you crack me up, when you say "You think people outside of North East England are interested in Newcastle v Sunderland.

I'm sorry to dissapoint you, they arn't."
I live in Birmingham, i watch it, i support Newcastle, i have the shirt.
I mean in vast numbers, numbers that will financially support the project/make it worthwhile in doing it in the first place.

The last thing I ever try and do is offend and hope that isn't the case with you if you are please accept my sincere apolagies.

The reasons I think Newcastle vs Sunderland would fail (remember these ar only hypothetical examples and the likelyhood is it won't happen) are:

Fan Numbers.  Other than Micheal Owen what would be the pull to say for eg, the Japanese public?  Other than the two current managers what names would the average Japanese man know?

Both clubs haven't been in Europe for some time now, they haven't been in the FA CUP final for a while (thats beamed worldwide) so how would the average Japanese man know about the clubs.  Why would he part with his hard earned cash (providing of course corporate don't take all the seats)

Everton, if they wen't to China might be a success, same with Man City (both clubs in fan numbers smaller to Newcastel/another argument for another day) but they have or had Chinese players, household names in their countries.  Isn't Evertons current sponsor Asian?  If Everton pulled Derby in Saudi, they would probaly fail.

Im a passionate Cardiff fan, we had Fan Zhiyi a few years ago, (picked him up off WBA for nothing).  All of a sudden we had 100 extra Journo's wanting to attend games, Chinese students came from Cardiff Uni, members of the South Wales Chinese public came, at the time we were in the Coca Cola 1 league, his arrival caused huge excitment, he wasn't even their best player.  We started sending shirts with his name on to China but to us he was just a small player, to the Chinese he was like Beckam was to us at the time.

Cardiff would fail if by then we were given the chance to play abroad (unless of course we pulled a top 4 out the hat) and we are the only club in a capitol city (not many other teams can say that) all be it in a Rugby loving nation.  We arn't a world wide brand, win the prem, get to the final of the Champs League and maybe an Fa Cup and you got the chance to be beamed worlwide and make your self a household name.

I think the only ones that would succeed would unfortunatly be

Chelsea
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool

(next best chance)

Man City
Spurs
Newcastle
Villa.

Or for that matter any London team (the place that attracts most tourists)

I suppose if you got American owners that also gives you a chance as this is probably where the idea has come from.  Unfortunatly what they wern't told is to the investor, football is a loosers game; you won't get your dollar back.

I could be wrong of course in all this only time will tell but I hope it succeeds just the once and then they bin the idea and never forget that; whilst the ref is the most important person in a game of football the fans must always come first, thats the fans that turn up week in week out, the fans that go skint as they pump all their hard earned money into the clubs they love.

Everybody at a club will at some time come and go except one person, the fan.  Once you have the club in your blood it never leaves you and once a club looses a fan thats it, they never come back.

There are as many Man Utd and Liverpool shirts down here as Cardiff shirts, they are truley global brands, Arsenal are just scratching at that, about to break it and I think Chelsea are probably just behind Man Utd and Liverpool.

I think only the top 4 are going todo anything out of this and it will just mean the rich get richer.

Last edited by 1927(h) (2008-02-08 10:08:21)

Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7050|England

If all the big games end up going abroad, I might as well start supporting Division 1.

If they seriously expect the same kind of reaction abroad for ManU vs ManC then thats bullshit. The game is all about money now, not the love, the passion and definitly about the money (yes, twice). Its more of a business now than a game that the "working class can afford to go and watch".
Like most things, its been fucked up as its gone into the 21st Century.
NantanCochise
Member
+55|6463|Portugal/United States

SamTheMan:D wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Manchester United (Greatest Team on Earth)
lol
Yeah, Id of said Real Madrid or AC Milan, but Man U, Naaaa....
buLLet_t00th
Mr. Boombastic
+178|6927|Stealth City, UK

NantanCochise wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Manchester United (Greatest Team on Earth)
lol
Yeah, Id of said Real Madrid or AC Milan, but Man U, Naaaa....
Well its impossible to say who is the greatest team on Earth, but AC Milan are definetly not, have you seen where they are in their league?
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7158|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
What would the South African public  thought of yesterdays "Thrilling" encounter? 0-0 and I would of been gutted to have either travelled from the uk for that or paid for it with my hard earned South African wages.  You can't blame Chelsea or Liverpool as they play big games like cup finals, 1 up top, and no mistakes.

Since I created this topic I have only heard 1 person back the idea, David Gold of Birmingham FC, Chairman I think.  He claims it isn't about money and just that 1 extra game abroad should mean the club can reduce it tickets.  They charge £46 for away fans.  The way they are going they could be playing us next season and no way would Cardiff fans pay anywhere near that.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7105|London, England
Seeing as this is the only football thread around...








lolmancity
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7131
I'll make sure I watch when they come here.... lol.

cant even use your hands.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7105|London, England

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

I'll make sure I watch when they come here.... lol.

cant even use your hands.
That's why it's called football, genius

o lets not start dis shit again nigga

Last edited by Mek-Izzle (2008-02-11 02:44:43)

Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7131
I'm bored and I want trouble. Although to be honest I've played both forms of organized football and I had fun doing both. I prefer our football but yours is ok too.

I might be more interested in euro football if they didn't take dives all the time. The sport loses all integrity when a guy lies on the ground acting like he's in the worst pain in his life and then gets up just fine 2 minutes later. Should give them red cards for that crap.

Oh, and on the no hands thing, it is an actual reason why a lot of Americans don't like football.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7158|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

I'm bored and I want trouble. Although to be honest I've played both forms of organized football and I had fun doing both. I prefer our football but yours is ok too.

I might be more interested in euro football if they didn't take dives all the time. The sport loses all integrity when a guy lies on the ground acting like he's in the worst pain in his life and then gets up just fine 2 minutes later. Should give them red cards for that crap.

Oh, and on the no hands thing, it is an actual reason why a lot of Americans don't like football.
I enjoyed watching most of the 1st half/1st two periods of the superbowl before falling asleep (1.30am) but if they brought the NFL road show to The Millenium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales, UK I wouldn't go as the game goes on too long with too many stop/starts even though it would be right on my doorstep.  I also don't agree with all the shoulder pads, reminds me of Jonny Wilkinson.
henno13
A generally unremarkable member
+230|6833|Belfast
Chelsea v ManU
in the City of Angles?

WIN!

the FA clearly copied the NFL
with the Pre-Season game in Wembly

Last edited by henno13 (2008-02-11 03:42:44)

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