anyone see the layout on the falcon northwest mach V??
You guys do know that as technology evolves the chips get smaller and smaller thus allowing us to keep the same size boards. the problem is... chipset makers are getting lazy
ya, well the chips don't really get smaller per sey, but the transistors inside get smaller so that you have more of them, thats what the different architectures are 45nm is the size of the transistor (I know, sooo small, its amazing)Tsuwamono wrote:
You guys do know that as technology evolves the chips get smaller and smaller thus allowing us to keep the same size boards. the problem is... chipset makers are getting lazy
despite this what alot of the fabricators are doing is using larger transistors because they can't make them smaller and just putting more thereby making the chip larger, a lot of it is also the heatsink, as more ppl move to water cooling, the space requirements will be less
Dows any one know of a bored that can take more than one core? Cos I might be getting hold of a lot of kit soon.
/crosses fingers.
/crosses fingers.
i would argue that we should be making them a bit smaller. with the scale of integration these days, i'd think it might be possible to one day absorb the chipset directly inside the CPU so you'd have just one monolithic chip that does most of the processing of the board. sure, geometry wise, you might need more PCI-express headers, etc for features, but i'm wondering if they can make them smaller. Nehalem is reportedly taking an approach like this and is absorbing the memory controller onto the CPU (i know i know...like AMD has done for years). with these smaller process sizes, cpu's can include more functionality on them besides just cache and cores. still, we need to dissipate the heat which can be challenging with all that stuff bunched up in one area on the board.
they already have cases for eatx, usually full tower cases such as my Coolermaster stacker STC-T01. eatx doesn't give more pci slots though just a larger mb surface area.smartdude992 wrote:
i had a though...what about the crossover cases, like oyu have a miniatx, atx case, whats to stop from having an atx eatx case
Not necessarily. Now that we're moving into tri-vga, and you take into consideration that each card will probably take up two slots (as most high performance cards do), that means you need the space of 6 slots just for video, not including extra PCI slots.max wrote:
as of right now there is no need for bigger motherboards. Everything that needs to be on it fits easily. Especially if motherboard makers start putting the PCI-e & PCI slots in more logical positions
Eventually, they're going to need more room...
yeah with the tri vga stuff you could use more card slots, but I don't see manufacturers changing the standard atx format for the small majority of people who would use it. In this day and age video and sound cards are mostly what people use the slots for as most other item are built into the motherboard.CrazeD wrote:
Not necessarily. Now that we're moving into tri-vga, and you take into consideration that each card will probably take up two slots (as most high performance cards do), that means you need the space of 6 slots just for video, not including extra PCI slots.max wrote:
as of right now there is no need for bigger motherboards. Everything that needs to be on it fits easily. Especially if motherboard makers start putting the PCI-e & PCI slots in more logical positions
Eventually, they're going to need more room...
What good is a business-sized mainboard with a cooler 20 times larger?Take the above "everything chip", put it on a business-card sized mainboard, add 4x1GB DRAM chips, add Flash-disk, add I/O ports, add power..
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I want smaller mobos actually.
And smaller parts, 13'' long ATI 3870X2 is just getting crazy..Sup wrote:
I want smaller mobos actually.
Many people resented the space taken up by there old CRT tv's. Yet you can buy an LCD/plasma that is literally twice as big and knowone (really) thinks its a crazy size, specifically because it isnt pertruding into the space of a room. If everyone had to buy cases of the size say a silverstone TJ-09, the tower would become as much of a feature of the room, as say the window!
Which is why am all for reducing the size of these parts as much as possible, or atleast, a more ergonomic layout to cases and motherboard desings to accomondate these parts, and use the space much more efficiently. Not everyone can really justify a massive full tower case, just so they can play there games on all high :\
As much as I like my TJ-07 (not being used atm strangely enough) I still dislike the fact that to put it in the room, I need a new desk, and its going to significantly cut the amount of works space, afterall it's in a box room
Martyn