BF2S Forums Obama, McCain Sweep Potomac Primaries

OrangeHound wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

I don't like Huckabee, but I like him more than McCaine.  The most important issue with me is border damage than good.  From what I can tell, Huckabee has less potential to fuck the country up than McCain.

Huckabee said somewhere that he wanted to shape the constitution more like the Bible.

Fuck. No.

Yeah, and Obama is really a Muslim terrorist in disguise ... and McCain goes on crazy Vietnam flashbacks thinking the VC are about to capture him again. 

There are always going to be slanderous messages about candidates specifically designed to infuriate and destroy a candidate.  Be smart and use some common sense.  Most statements like these are either taken out of context or are just plain false.

Anyway, I don't think you need to worry about Huckabee becoming president unless McCain picks him as VP and then McCain dies of a heart attack soon after winning the election (McCain would be, what, 80???? when elected)

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-02-12 20:02:45)

Kmarion wrote:

His victory speech tonight.

nukchebi0 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

His victory speech tonight.

saw it.  huge contrast when they showed mccain's right afterward.  Obama is the greatest speaker out of the 4 candidates.

Why do you think he even got to where he did?

Speaking ability is extremely important in winning voters, because many people just vote for who sounds and looks better.

ATG wrote:

Count me as a Obamican.

Poseidon wrote:

ATG wrote:

Count me as a Obamican.

Madness.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

I don't like Huckabee, but I like him more than McCaine.  The most important issue with me is border damage than good.  From what I can tell, Huckabee has less potential to fuck the country up than McCain.

Huckabee said somewhere that he wanted to shape the constitution more like the Bible.

Fuck. No.

Sources plz?  Quote perhaps?

In a phone interview, Reeves said Huckabee told the board members he thought there was "something nefarious" about the criminal justice system in Dumond's case, and that the rapist got a "raw deal." Huckabee said he believed Dumond's sentence, originally a life sentence plus 20 years, was "way out of bounds" for his crime, raping a 17-year-old high school student.
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Huckabee's former counsel said the then-governor also received information about Dumond's alleged role in a murder while serving in the Army.

The new information from Reeves puts in sharper contrast Huckabee's recent statements that he wished he "knew more" when he advocated for the release of Dumond in the late 1990s. This morning, ABC News and the Huffington Post Web site reported on letters received by Huckabee's office from Dumond's alleged and confirmed victims and their family members.

Former Governor Mike Huckabee, who ordered the destruction of a number of computer hard drives before leaving office last month, is now the subject of the ethics complaint because of his actions.
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Hard drives in 83 computers and four servers were destroyed, according to Claire Bailey, director of the Arkansas Department of Information Systems (DIS). She said that her office backed up information from the servers, but not the computers, and gave the backup tapes to Huckabee’s former chief of staff. The DIS apparently did not retain a copy of the data on the backup tapes.

The computers from which the hard drives were removed and destroyed were located in the state Capitol; a state office in Washington; the Arkansas State Police airport hangar; the governor's mansion; and the Arkansas State Police drug office, she said.

Still, his annual hauls were attention-grabbing. In one year, the value of the gifts given to Huckabee amounted to more than $112,000 — nearly double his $67,000 state salary. And he wrangled with the state Ethics Commission over gift rules, with the commission twice finding he’d broken them (one violation was later overturned).

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Bryan Jeffrey, a Little Rock CPA, gave Huckabee free accounting services for one year, and the next year he was named to the state’s Development Finance Authority. Jeffrey contributed $2,300 to Huckabee’s presidential campaign and his firm works for Huckabee’s presidential campaign, earning more than $70,000 in the first nine months of this year.

Ron Fuller, a lobbyist who was Huckabee’s top fundraiser and paid for his wife to scuba dive in Puerto Rico, later got appointed to the state’s Alcoholic Beverage Control Board. Last year, Fuller’s company contributed $1,000 to Hope for America.

Jerry Davis, the late CEO of a food wholesaler, and his wife gave the Huckabees more than $5,400 in gifts, including an $800 cashmere and fox cape, a pair of $600 watches, $1,000 cuff links and a suit. Davis was named to the state police commission. He died in 2004, but this year his widow, Shirley Davis, gave $2,300 to Huckabee’s presidential campaign.

William Ferren, who founded and is chairman of an Arkansas oil company that gave Huckabee a suit, was appointed to the Correction and Community Punishment Board. He gave $750 to Huckabee’s presidential campaign.

In all, Huckabee accepted more than $54,000 in clothes for himself and his family during his decade as governor. And the lion’s share — $25,000 — came from Jennings Osborne, a colorful businessman who was by far the most generous gift giver to the Huckabees.

Osborne, whose website describes him as “Little Rock's own version of Elvis” gave Huckabee, his family and staff more than $60,000 worth of gifts, including $11,000 in flowers, nearly $12,000 worth of pastries and more than $25,000 in clothes.

Huckabee appointed Osborne to a seat on the commission that oversees the stadium where the University of Arkansas football team plays some home games, and Osborne and his wife contributed $4,100 to Huckabee’s presidential campaign.

Fields was 62 years old at the time of his conviction; he was 65 when Huckabee commuted his sentence. That executive clemency made him immediately eligible for parole.

Some Arkansas Republicans are also questioning whether Fields' clemency was tied to sizeable political contributions.

According to Federal Election Commission records, a month after Fields' appeal was denied, his wife made a $5,000 donation to the State Republican Party in June of 2003. A month later, she made an additional $5,000 donation, again to the Republican Party of Arkansas. The following month, Fields reported to prison and began his clemency application process. He was a free man in less than a year.

ATG wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

ATG wrote:

Count me as a Obamican.

Madness.

Fuck the status quo.

How about the declining value of the dollar?
How about 30% interest on creditcards? Payday advance companies preying on the elderly with an effective apr of 400%

How about paying Haliburton four times what it should cost to serve some chow? How about mercenaries running wild in Iraq? Record oil profits? Illegal alien contractors?

Yes, the political insiders have done such an inspirational job.

George Bush destroyed the republican party, why in the hell should I follow along blindly?

McCain says we may be in Iraq for 100 years. GTFO.

ATG wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

ATG wrote:

Count me as a Obamican.

Madness.

Fuck the status quo.

How about the declining value of the dollar?
How about 30% interest on creditcards? Payday advance companies preying on the elderly with an effective apr of 400%

How about paying Haliburton four times what it should cost to serve some chow? How about mercenaries running wild in Iraq? Record oil profits? Illegal alien contractors?

Yes, the political insiders have done such an inspirational job.

George Bush destroyed the republican party, why in the hell should I follow along blindly?

McCain says we may be in Iraq for 100 years. GTFO.

Turquoise wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

saw it.  huge contrast when they showed mccain's right afterward.  Obama is the greatest speaker out of the 4 candidates.

Why do you think he even got to where he did?

Speaking ability is extremely important in winning voters, because many people just vote for who sounds and looks better.

Can you say Reagan?

I would agree though.  The only difference this time is that a Democrat is the one who looks and sounds better.  The goal here is to win the election.

Ideally, this would be a contest of policy, but let's face it...  people are just too stupid for that to be the case.