Poll

Can You Drive a Stick Shift?

Yes, Without Issue/Problems70%70% - 140
Yes, I can get around but still have problems4%4% - 9
Yes, Poorly, I stall all the time4%4% - 9
No, I don't know how12%12% - 25
I can't/don't Drive7%7% - 15
Total: 198
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6535|eXtreme to the maX
I learnt in a manual - it does give more control.
I have had a mix of cars, currently automatic
- For city driving you can concentrate better on the road
- Because my crazy ex-gf could only drive auto, so I bought an auto - duh I'm an idiot
My first lesson in an auto - 'Here are the keys - put in in drive'

FEOS wrote:

The phenom I've never understood is junior enlisted living in the dorm/barracks who drive $40k cars. It's got to eat up every bit of their meager income. Just never got it.
No idea either - investing in a depreciating asset - here in Aus we have apprentices driving V8s.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-02-15 04:18:24)

Fuck Israel
InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7148
Almost every car I've ever had was a manual.  My wife has never had anything but.
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6651|Brisneyland
No Problems with manuals, can even double declutch without crunching.

Wife only has auto license so I drive auto most of the time now ( boring).
Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7149|Scotland
manual is more of a challenge, I like it.

Bit of a shame I have these on the back of the car at the mo

https://www.focusmm.co.uk/shop/files/product_media/l-plate_big.jpg
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7110|Disaster Free Zone

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

Not entirely.  You have to have some sort of Driver's Education (Either from Classes in a school - about 30 hours total, or online) which then lets you take a test to get your Permit, which let's you drive as long as you have a licensed Adult over the age of 25 in the front seat.  However, you must first take 6 hours of behind the wheel training with a certified instructor.  Your permit is good for 6 Months, during which you must acquire 50 hours of behind the wheel time, with 10 being at night.  Once you have done this, you go to the DMV, where you take a 20 minute cruise with an Official, who grades you.   If you don't make too many mistakes, you pass and get your license.  However, for the first 12 months (if you're under 18) you can't drive between 2300 - 0500, and you can't drive with anyone under the age of 25 in your car.  But you can drive Solo.

Grand Total? You can get away with it for about $150-$175 if you take your Driver's Ed online.  If you go to a school, it can move it up to about $300 Total.
Wow.  That's seems needlessly restrictive.  I had to take a short multiple choice test to get my permit, and it cost me like $40.  Then, I got to take a ~$30 6-hour sit down course where we watched videos on how to not get into an accident.  Then I took my road test.  Badda-bing.  License.  Of course, I was over 18 at the time so I didn't have to deal with the junior class license restrictions.
took me 22 lessons of 2 hours with manual, 1 multiple choice test (which you need 44/50 correct) then I needed to drive with a guy from the CBR (driving institute) in a 30km/h zone/50km/h zone/speedway/3 ways of parking/backwards turn/90 degrees turn, and I needed to tell him stuff about the car.

total cost around 1400 euros, just to get that damn thing.

and the teacher I had (25 euros an hour) was cheap, they can cost you up to 50 an hour.

(the amount of lessons isn't really up to me).

and yes I drive manual in a car and for work in a manual Mercedes van.
LOLOLOL.

16th birthday: go to the RTA, do a multiple choice exam (about 30 questions, really easy, but must get about 28 right). Pay $10 for them to print you a learners permit.
Go learn to drive however you want, with parents or pro instructors (most with parents = free).
17th birthday: go to RTA, do a 20 min drivers test, pass pay $25 for them to print a provisional licence (you are restricted to 100kmh and have less points).
18th birthday: go to RTA, get them to print full licence for $10.

TOTAL cost: $45
TOTAL time: 2 years

Well that was a couple of years ago, now they require you to do a minimum of 50 hours driving and there are 2 stages of provisional licence, but the costs have hardly risen.
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6892|Tyne & Wear, England
I have only ever driven manual, I've been driving for two and a half years and would consider myself a very good driver.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7050|London, England

KILLSWITCH wrote:

I have only ever driven manual, I've been driving for two and a half years and would consider myself a very good driver.
I'm the only good driver.

Everyone else is crap and it's their fault
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6892|Tyne & Wear, England

Airwolf wrote:

manual is more of a challenge, I like it.

Bit of a shame I have these on the back of the car at the mo

http://www.focusmm.co.uk/shop/files/pro … te_big.jpg
Is that compulsory?
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7149|Scotland

DrunkFace wrote:

Go learn to drive however you want, with parents or pro instructors (most with parents = free).
insurance?




KILLSWITCH wrote:

Airwolf wrote:

manual is more of a challenge, I like it.

Bit of a shame I have these on the back of the car at the mo

http://www.focusmm.co.uk/shop/files/pro … te_big.jpg
Is that compulsory?
yup not passed my test yet...

Last edited by Airwolf (2008-02-15 05:03:14)

Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6892|Tyne & Wear, England

Airwolf wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Airwolf wrote:

manual is more of a challenge, I like it.

Bit of a shame I have these on the back of the car at the mo

http://www.focusmm.co.uk/shop/files/pro … te_big.jpg
Is that compulsory?
yup not passed my test yet...
Aaah right, I thought you meant you had just passed and still had to have L plates.  I heard that's going to happen soon.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7052|Little Bentcock

Airwolf wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Go learn to drive however you want, with parents or pro instructors (most with parents = free).
insurance?
Use your own insurance..
Nappy
Apprentice
+151|6658|NSW, Australia

our L plates are yellow with a black L

red P's the same as that but with a P
and green ones too
Camski
Member
+1|7137|Sydney, Australia

DrunkFace wrote:

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:


Wow.  That's seems needlessly restrictive.  I had to take a short multiple choice test to get my permit, and it cost me like $40.  Then, I got to take a ~$30 6-hour sit down course where we watched videos on how to not get into an accident.  Then I took my road test.  Badda-bing.  License.  Of course, I was over 18 at the time so I didn't have to deal with the junior class license restrictions.
took me 22 lessons of 2 hours with manual, 1 multiple choice test (which you need 44/50 correct) then I needed to drive with a guy from the CBR (driving institute) in a 30km/h zone/50km/h zone/speedway/3 ways of parking/backwards turn/90 degrees turn, and I needed to tell him stuff about the car.

total cost around 1400 euros, just to get that damn thing.

and the teacher I had (25 euros an hour) was cheap, they can cost you up to 50 an hour.

(the amount of lessons isn't really up to me).

and yes I drive manual in a car and for work in a manual Mercedes van.
LOLOLOL.

16th birthday: go to the RTA, do a multiple choice exam (about 30 questions, really easy, but must get about 28 right). Pay $10 for them to print you a learners permit.
Go learn to drive however you want, with parents or pro instructors (most with parents = free).
17th birthday: go to RTA, do a 20 min drivers test, pass pay $25 for them to print a provisional licence (you are restricted to 100kmh and have less points).
18th birthday: go to RTA, get them to print full licence for $10.

TOTAL cost: $45
TOTAL time: 2 years

Well that was a couple of years ago, now they require you to do a minimum of 50 hours driving and there are 2 stages of provisional licence, but the costs have hardly risen.
Where's this?

In NSW it's now 120 Hours (20 hours of that is night time) on L plates for a year, the 2 provisional licenses (1 Year then 2 Years) [also with engine restrictions] and the various tests in between plates.

Oh joy, 120 hours, here i come (slowly...)
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|7131
From the UK. You're rich if you have automatic.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7165|Salt Lake City

Absolutely, and with no problems.  My first car was a 1969 Camaro with 4-speed.  My current car is an Eclipse with a 5-speed.
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6866|Germany
There is nothing better than starting in a low gear going on the autobahn, kicking down the gas pedal and try to shift gears as fast as possible when you hear the engine scream, and then doing it again and again till you hit the 6th gear and are going 200km/h.

I absolutely love manual transmission. You surely have to do some more while driving, but you will get used to it quickly. When you know how to use it properly, you can drive every possible style - fast, normal, gas saving and everything in between. I think I would have much less fun driving with a automatic transmission.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6874|The Land of Scott Walker

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Arguments about rather concentrating on the road than your gears is nonsense. Once you get the hang of it, it will cost you 0 effort to manage your gears. Most of the time you'll just KNOW what gear you're in, without having to look. It becomes second nature.
Absolutely not nonsense in the Midwest where driving on rural highways means glare ice and snow making the road extremely slick.  I wasn't talking about looking down while shifting, but rather not having to manage the transmission so I can manage the road conditions.
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|7167|The Hague, Netherlands

Stingray24 wrote:

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Arguments about rather concentrating on the road than your gears is nonsense. Once you get the hang of it, it will cost you 0 effort to manage your gears. Most of the time you'll just KNOW what gear you're in, without having to look. It becomes second nature.
Absolutely not nonsense in the Midwest where driving on rural highways means glare ice and snow making the road extremely slick.  I wasn't talking about looking down while shifting, but rather not having to manage the transmission so I can manage the road conditions.
being able to manage your transmission on those roads is a big plus, since you can control what it is doing. (way more control (car/truck))
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36eac2cb6af70a43508fd8d1c93d3201f4e23435.png
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7195|UK
What kind of question is that? Its only in America where the majority of people drive autos, nearly everywhere else people drive manuals.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7165|Salt Lake City

I don't mind driving a manual, but if I had a car with the power to support it, I'd take an auto every time.
Polux
H@x ?? No, just skill baby !
+73|7076|I smell corners
I don't undestand how someone can drive a car with an automatic gear box...
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6559|North Tonawanda, NY

Polux wrote:

I don't undestand how someone can drive a car with an automatic gear box...
What's so hard to understand?  You put the key in, turn it on, put in in gear, and go.  You only need to pay attention to the gas and brake, no clutch.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7165|Salt Lake City

SenorToenails wrote:

Polux wrote:

I don't undestand how someone can drive a car with an automatic gear box...
What's so hard to understand?  You put the key in, turn it on, put in in gear, and go.  You only need to pay attention to the gas and brake, no clutch.
Not to mention that there are advanced, high performance automatics as well.  You can put them in gear and drive like a normal automatic, or you can put them into manual shift mode.  A simple forward/backward push of the stick will shift the transmission up or down.  The one that comes to mind at the moment is the Tiptronic transmission developed by Porsche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiptronic
Rubix-Cubes
Member
+123|7085|UK
iv only ever drove a manual, infact ive only ever drove 4x4s so there are 2 gear shifts, i belive that it gives more control of the car in a shift, automatics are for fat lazy ppl
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6978|UK

I work as a test driver and deal with these transmissions, that dont 'jell' with the car and all sorts of horrific stuff.  Count yourself lucky your not dealing with pre production stuff.  I never really had an issue with it, infact I prefer manual as I like to be incontrol of the car as much as possible, never liked all these aids like ASM, TC (appart from in the wet) or the autos, too many computers taking away from your feel for what is actually going on.

Martyn

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